Originally Posted by Hi Rez
Because a lot of people with highly resolving systems find they make a difference. But don't take anyones word for it. Experiment and find out for your self.
I knew this would turn into a discussion about cables very quickly :)
The key problem in assessing Hi Fi components is suggestion and autosuggestion on behalf of the listener. Components of any sort can apparently "make a difference" but this can be simply due to suggestion and autosuggestion on behalf of the listener. The power of suggestion and autosuggestion in hearing has been shown to be extremely great.
While a "try it out for yourself" approach seems very reasonable and liberal, unfortunately what happens is that the very significant promotion of these components in many forms by the Hi Fi industry has its fully intended result and the consumer will indeed "hear differences", until the triggers for suggestion and autosuggestion are removed.
The way to remove the triggers for suggestion and autosuggestion is double blind listening tests. If there are differences between audio components they will show themselves in those tests.
It is not practical for every consumer to run double blind listening tests themselves on every component they buy, so I think we must start to request that the audio reviewers conduct double blind listening tests on equipment. I think that if we started to see this then in many areas of audio we would see some very welcome reality, however it would also be great if there were indeed some surprises about what "makes a difference".
I do think that the Jason Serinus report on the double blind listening tests of the Nordost Valhalla mains cables should be read by as many people as possible.
What is of greatest interest in this is Jason Serinus's own reported experience. He was a "believer" in these components and he felt that he did hear a difference when they were used prior to the test. He ran the test to demonstrate that these mains cables made a difference.
So, Jason Serinus was totally convinced that these were making a difference when they were not. How did that happen? It was autosuggestion on his behalf. When he plugged in these mains cables that action, and the seeing them there in his system, was the trigger for the autosuggestion. He would hear what he believed to be the benefits, the "firmed up bass" or whatever it was, purely on the basis of autosuggestion.
I will mention that I too was like Jason Serinus in the late 80s, buying expensive cables and fully believing they "made a difference". However later I realised that I was simply practising autosuggestion.
You will see a link to my own article on suggestion and autosuggestion in this posting. I recommend anyone who is considering spending a lot of money on Hi Fi components with dubious credentials should read up about this subject. They might well save a great deal of money.
Edited by p a t r i c k - 1/26/13 at 12:31am