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post #301 of 352

I agree. I bought a new HD800 recently and surprisingly found that the sound is much more better than before。 Especially with Sennheiser new HDVD800 amp. The amp is really good regardless the DAC part.

post #302 of 352

what serial number do you guys consider new.

 

I just bought a 2nd hand pair of HD800....the serial number is 19XXX.....In no way is my treble overly bright....not at all?

post #303 of 352
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Originally Posted by whirlwind View Post
 

what serial number do you guys consider new.

 

I just bought a 2nd hand pair of HD800....the serial number is 19XXX.....In no way is my treble overly bright....not at all?

I think we are up to approx 26*** now. But don't fret about how old or new they are. They are all the same apart from normal manufacturing differences. 

 

No pattern has emerged in regards to differences between old and new. 

 

Just enjoy them guys and lets keep ageism to the politically incorrect crowd ;)

post #304 of 352
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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post
 

I think we are up to approx 26*** now. But don't fret about how old or new they are. They are all the same apart from normal manufacturing differences. 

 

No pattern has emerged in regards to differences between old and new. 

 

Just enjoy them guys and lets keep ageism to the politically incorrect crowd ;)


Will do :D

 

I am really digging them

post #305 of 352
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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post
 

I think we are up to approx 26*** now. But don't fret about how old or new they are. They are all the same apart from normal manufacturing differences. 

 

No pattern has emerged in regards to differences between old and new. 

 

Just enjoy them guys and lets keep ageism to the politically incorrect crowd ;)


I just got mine today and the serial number is 3077X. 

 

At the time of this writing, I have only been playing my 5th song and forgive me but I am not particularly blown away by the sound. Is it normal? I feel like I blew away several hundred dollars for a marginal improvement in sound over Shure SRH840. The open configuration does make the soundtage more airy but other than that, there's nothing anything special.

 

Could I expect any more improvement from the sound? My tube amp has not reached 30 hours yet and along with the burn in period of both the amp and the headphone, could I expect a remarkable improvement in the future? What percentage do you think will the improvement be?

 

I must say that they are like speakers. They hardly make me feel I am wearing a headphone at all. They don't touch my ears (pinnae). They are so comfortable and so light.

 

I'll update if I notice some improvement.


Edited by karzai - 6/10/14 at 9:30am
post #306 of 352
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Originally Posted by karzai View Post


I just got mine today and the serial number is 3077X. 

At the time of this writing, I have only been playing my 5th song and forgive me but I am not particularly blown away by the sound. Is it normal? I feel like I blew away several hundred dollars for a marginal improvement in sound over Shure SRH840. The open configuration does make the soundtage more airy but other than, that there's nothing anything special.

Could I expect any more improvement from the sound? My tube amp has not reached 30 hours yet and along with the burn in period of both the amp and the headphone, could I expect a remarkable improvement in the future? What percentage do you think will the improvement be?

I must say that they are like speakers. They hardly make me feel I am wearing a headphone at all. They don't touch my ears (pinnae). They are so comfortable and so light.

I'll update if I notice some improvement.

Just keep listening and eventually the HD800 moment will come. Once it does you won't hear any other headphone quite the same ever again.
post #307 of 352
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Just keep listening and eventually the HD800 moment will come. Once it does you won't hear any other headphone quite the same ever again.

This^

post #308 of 352
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Originally Posted by karzai View Post
 


I just got mine today and the serial number is 3077X. 

 

At the time of this writing, I have only been playing my 5th song and forgive me but I am not particularly blown away by the sound. Is it normal? I feel like I blew away several hundred dollars for a marginal improvement in sound over Shure SRH840. The open configuration does make the soundtage more airy but other than that, there's nothing anything special.

 

Could I expect any more improvement from the sound? My tube amp has not reached 30 hours yet and along with the burn in period of both the amp and the headphone, could I expect a remarkable improvement in the future? What percentage do you think will the improvement be?

 

I must say that they are like speakers. They hardly make me feel I am wearing a headphone at all. They don't touch my ears (pinnae). They are so comfortable and so light.

 

I'll update if I notice some improvement.

Amp/dac/source? Garbage in = garbage out....especially with the HD800s. :smile:

post #309 of 352

Hey folks, need some help getting a better sound out of my HD800s 

 

I'm currently using a Universal Audio Apollo Twin Duo.

The DAC is top shelf pro grade as far as I know.

 

It's headphone output specifications are as follows:

Jack Type

1⁄4” Female TRS Stereo (unbalanced)

Frequency Response

 20 Hz – 20 kHz, ±0.1 dB

Dynamic Range (A–weighting)

113 dB

Signal-to-Noise Ratio (A–weighting)

113 dB

Channel Separation

Greater than 110 dB

Total Harmonic Distortion + Noise

 –101 dBFS

Stereo Level Balance

±0.11 dB

Output Impedance

10 Ohms

Output Gain Range

–INF to 0 dB

Maximum Output Power 

80 milliwatts into 600 Ohms

 

I don't have the option of trying different amps to see if I can get a better amplifier for the HD800s at a reasonable price.

I'll be buying sight unseen/unheard.

 

What's the best non DAC desktop headphone amp for under 300$ to go with these cans? 

Should I just wait till I can afford the sennheiser amp?

 

I love the sound I'm already hearing but I'd like to know if there's more I can do with around 300$ 

 

Would really appreciate any advice.

 

Thanks a ton in advance.

 

 

 

 

post #310 of 352
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Originally Posted by karzai View Post


I just got mine today and the serial number is 3077X. 

At the time of this writing, I have only been playing my 5th song and forgive me but I am not particularly blown away by the sound. Is it normal? I feel like I blew away several hundred dollars for a marginal improvement in sound over Shure SRH840. The open configuration does make the soundtage more airy but other than that, there's nothing anything special.

Could I expect any more improvement from the sound? My tube amp has not reached 30 hours yet and along with the burn in period of both the amp and the headphone, could I expect a remarkable improvement in the future? What percentage do you think will the improvement be?

I must say that they are like speakers. They hardly make me feel I am wearing a headphone at all. They don't touch my ears (pinnae). They are so comfortable and so light.

I'll update if I notice some improvement.

Depends on what you were expecting I guess.

A "huuuuge" difference? Not really, unless what you started with was truly horrible.
Did you want "more" bass/mids/treble that simply isn't there in the master? Then HD800 is not for you.

Many of my friends actually prefer their "beats"-type cans to my HD800, not knowing what it is or its reputation.
- And that's perfectly fine, let people enjoy their taste in music.

You might want to demo cans in this price range before you buy them... and as multiple people have pointed out, the entire chain is important, source/dac/amp.

HeadFi is a game of diminishing returns wink.gif

That said I'm really happy with mine, and I still give them nearly 50% listening time vs. the SR-009 smily_headphones1.gif
post #311 of 352
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Originally Posted by Twangsta View Post
 

Hey folks, need some help getting a better sound out of my HD800s 

 

I'm currently using a Universal Audio Apollo Twin Duo.

The DAC is top shelf pro grade as far as I know.

 

It's headphone output specifications are as follows:

Jack Type

1⁄4” Female TRS Stereo (unbalanced)

Frequency Response

 20 Hz – 20 kHz, ±0.1 dB

Dynamic Range (A–weighting)

113 dB

Signal-to-Noise Ratio (A–weighting)

113 dB

Channel Separation

Greater than 110 dB

Total Harmonic Distortion + Noise

 –101 dBFS

Stereo Level Balance

±0.11 dB

Output Impedance

10 Ohms

Output Gain Range

–INF to 0 dB

Maximum Output Power 

80 milliwatts into 600 Ohms

 

I don't have the option of trying different amps to see if I can get a better amplifier for the HD800s at a reasonable price.

I'll be buying sight unseen/unheard.

 

What's the best non DAC desktop headphone amp for under 300$ to go with these cans? 

Should I just wait till I can afford the sennheiser amp?

 

I love the sound I'm already hearing but I'd like to know if there's more I can do with around 300$ 

 

Would really appreciate any advice.

 

Thanks a ton in advance.

 

 

 

 

Matrix M-stage would be my recommendation. Other say that the Schiit Vali is a good and cheap starting point. You could go for a little Dot MKIII but then there is the price of finding good tubes to replace the cheap stock ones...    

post #312 of 352
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

Amp/dac/source? Garbage in = garbage out....especially with the HD800s. :smile:


Amp/DAC = WA7tp/WA7

 

Source =  44.1/16, 192/24 FLAC/WAV Files

 

Player = Media Center 19

post #313 of 352
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Originally Posted by karzai View Post
 


Amp/DAC = WA7tp/WA7

 

Source =  44.1/16, 192/24 FLAC/WAV Files

 

Player = Media Center 19

Pretty good setup, but the HD800s still climb higher in my experiences.

post #314 of 352
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

Pretty good setup, but the HD800s still climb higher in my experiences.


Please don't say that. People have warned about how treacherous this path could easily become and I still have years of mortgage to pay. Haha.

post #315 of 352
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Please don't say that. People have warned about how treacherous this path could easily become and I still have years of mortgage to pay. Haha.

Sorry, then I'd just run from this place. Head-fi can be pretty hard on one's wallet. :smile:

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