I ended up returning these. Couldn't get a good comfortable seal with shallow insertion and bass just too overpowering for me with deeper insertions.
It really is a nice overall package though.
Would these shallow insertion techniques make them more susceptible to falling out when active? It seems pretty obvious but are you just not "pushing" the tips all the way in? Can you still use shallow insertion with foam?
Thanks for the help!
Generally when I have tried this tactic (shallow insertion) I cannot get the same bass response, but I will be sure to try it out.
I think the thing with the ADV is that it has plenty of bass response with a shallow fit and can become to much with a deep insertion. Other IEM's on the other hand require a deep insertion to have the right amount of bass. Generally speaking I can't handle deep insertion so have to avoid most of those IEM's.
Anyway give a try as you suggest and see what happens :)
What I've just been doing is using normal size tips, just not pushing them all the way in or straightening out my ear canal like you usually would. In fact I even pull them out slightly, though I still get a seal.
The signature is definitely still dark but I have a preference leaning towards darker myself.
Unfortunately my preference leans towards mid/treble (mostly bright) so I am actually starting to think I will return these to Earphone Solutions and get something different. Not sure what yet but something... If anyone is interested I would be willing to sell these for the cost minus restocking fee's ($170) passing the savings on to someone else versus just returning to the vendor.
I am going to see if I have time to do up a review of them this weekend.
I think they are at the level of the 215's or above, they do need a slight addition of treble to truly shine but they are quite clear for a dynamic driver. I've used mine for a while now and listened to them for about 8-9 hours straight flying to Germany, and never got tired of them. I used the lime westone star tips and they had great isolation, and it worked especially well on a crowded 747. What I really regret doing was not changing the cable before leaving, this cable is quite durable and nice looking, akin to paracord but I would have much rather used a braided cable due to the flexibility. I don't use the 215s much because they are too big for my ears but I consider the sound signatures similar, but the adv have a solid bass reminiscent of the crossfade M80s.
Although I enjoyed them, I did use them with amping from a headstage arrow 4 with treble boost 1. Source was a international galaxy S3 using neutron audio player.