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post #751 of 1702

Because the HM5 were too small and soft, I gave up on them quickly. Can't remember much about the sound signature other than I didn't like it. 

post #752 of 1702

The Alpha pads are very comfy but they sound hollow IMO. I am anxious to get home to my newly delivered jergs by modulor but the jergs I made for myself (just out of pleather -- no velour top) are significantly better than the Alphas. On the three headphones I've tried the Alphas on, I end up with a similar effect each time: more bloated bass, hollow lower mids, and crisper highs.

post #753 of 1702

Kind of bummed that I didn't order on of modulor's pads when they were available, despite the fact that I already have my own ones I made. The craftsmanship and attention to detail seems excellent on the modulor jergpads.... I can't wait for round 2!

post #754 of 1702

Don't hate me for my vision and foresight to go with the best. It's not my fault that I have this innate ability. tongue.gif

post #755 of 1702
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Don't hate me for my vision and foresight to go with the best. It's not my fault that I have this innate ability. tongue.gif
+1 And i just went along with the flow.. Lucky me.. biggrin.gif
post #756 of 1702
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+1 And i just went along with the flow.. Lucky me.. biggrin.gif

 

I didn't think I would miss out on much seeing as I was/am perfectly happy with my pair, but was I wrong..

post #757 of 1702

Just got home to the "jergulors" and wow. Ryan, I gotta say, the craftsmanship is amazing on these. Simply put, I took a long hard look at them and I have no freaking clue how you made them. The stitching on the inside is very well done and they are completely seamless on the outside (as far as I can tell). I'll also have to thank you for the extra supplies that you provided for replacements.

 

Comfort is obviously great on these. Squishy pleathers with soft velour on top, a perfect combo. The chamber on the inside is noticeably smaller than the stock pleathers in diameter, but that is expected considering the velour covers up until halfway down the chamber.

 

Sound... mmmmmmm. First and foremost, I happily have my EQ turned off. I suppose the holes I cut out on my own pleathers were not as expertly cut or that my back vent wasn't as large but I do know that the tizzy highs are nearly gone (HE-400's FYI). These pads also have a noticeable increase in sub-bass from mine which is expected considering the tape you chose completely encompasses each hole where mine only had strips in between each hole. Lastly, I have a single gripe. The lower mids are ever so slighly  more congested than they are on my velour-less jergs. However, I'm almost certain it's due to the now greater distance from my ear to the driver. I've had a decent amount of time for my old pads to squish down a bit and the new pads are obviously more firm plus the extra thickness of velour. That being said though, I as these get some more use on them, I expect this to change a bit.

 

Bottom line, I'm in love with these. I'm even hopping through my library to play sibilant recordings just to appreciate the lack of tizzyness wink.gif. And of course, given that my music library consists vastly of EDM, I'm loving how much more sub-bass these provide. Overall, a great addition to my HE-400's -- along with the cable you already made me tongue_smile.gif.

 

Cheers!

beerchug.gif

post #758 of 1702
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Originally Posted by Thujone View Post

Just got home to the "jergulors" and wow. Ryan, I gotta say, the craftsmanship is amazing on these. Simply put, I took a long hard look at them and I have no freaking clue how you made them. The stitching on the inside is very well done and they are completely seamless on the outside (as far as I can tell). I'll also have to thank you for the extra supplies that you provided for replacements.

 

Comfort is obviously great on these. Squishy pleathers with soft velour on top, a perfect combo. The chamber on the inside is noticeably smaller than the stock pleathers in diameter, but that is expected considering the velour covers up until halfway down the chamber.

 

Sound... mmmmmmm. First and foremost, I happily have my EQ turned off. I suppose the holes I cut out on my own pleathers were not as expertly cut or that my back vent wasn't as large but I do know that the tizzy highs are nearly gone (HE-400's FYI). These pads also have a noticeable increase in sub-bass from mine which is expected considering the tape you chose completely encompasses each hole where mine only had strips in between each hole. Lastly, I have a single gripe. The lower mids are ever so slighly  more congested than they are on my velour-less jergs. However, I'm almost certain it's due to the now greater distance from my ear to the driver. I've had a decent amount of time for my old pads to squish down a bit and the new pads are obviously more firm plus the extra thickness of velour. That being said though, I as these get some more use on them, I expect this to change a bit.

 

Bottom line, I'm in love with these. I'm even hopping through my library to play sibilant recordings just to appreciate the lack of tizzyness wink.gif. And of course, given that my music library consists vastly of EDM, I'm loving how much more sub-bass these provide. Overall, a great addition to my HE-400's -- along with the cable you already made me tongue_smile.gif.

 

Cheers!

beerchug.gif

Interesting impressions. Did you take / post photos of the cut holes on the earpads you modded by yourself?

post #759 of 1702
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Interesting impressions. Did you take / post photos of the cut holes on the earpads you modded by yourself?

What are you trying to do, embarrass me? wink.gif Honestly, they look pretty close to the example in the OP but with much longer holes, heh. When I made them I figured I was using my velours and not using my pleathers anyway, so I wasn't super concerned with making them high quality. If I would have looked at purrin's measurements beforehand, I probably would have spent more time and effort on them.

 

Maybe the double thickness of padding (pleather + velour) helps dampen the highs?  I've never tried the velour mod before. The vent is now twice the size of the vent on my first pair, but I'm not sure that's making a huge difference.

post #760 of 1702
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What are you trying to do, embarrass me? wink.gif Honestly, they look pretty close to the example in the OP but with much longer holes, heh. When I made them I figured I was using my velours and not using my pleathers anyway, so I wasn't super concerned with making them high quality. If I would have looked at purrin's measurements beforehand, I probably would have spent more time and effort on them.

 

Maybe the double thickness of padding (pleather + velour) helps dampen the highs?  I've never tried the velour mod before. The vent is now twice the size of the vent on my first pair, but I'm not sure that's making a huge difference.

No I'm just curious about the configuration you decided to cut out the holes with. If it is very different from the way Modulor did it, that could at least partly explain why you feel the lower midrange sounds different in congestion.

 

But of course, earpads' sound change dramatically after "wear-in" (much more-so than headphone burn-in), like you mentioned.

post #761 of 1702
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No I'm just curious about the configuration you decided to cut out the holes with. If it is very different from the way Modulor did it, that could at least partly explain why you feel the lower midrange sounds different in congestion.

 

But of course, earpads' sound change dramatically after "wear-in" (much more-so than headphone burn-in), like you mentioned.

 

They do? blink.gif Just asking. 

post #762 of 1702
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They do? blink.gif Just asking. 

Yeah of course, over time pads tend to deform and become shallower than when they were new, so 1) your ears get closer to the drivers which changes the sound signature significantly, and 2) the low frequency conduction characteristics of the foam change due to its aging and deformation.

 

It's just a matter of how resilient the foams are, that are used in various different earpads.

post #763 of 1702

Hmm...I can understand that. I do have a pair of Sennheiser pads that get a bath every 3-6 months that seem to have retained a very high percentage of their original sound quality after a couple of years. 

post #764 of 1702
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Hmm...I can understand that. I do have a pair of Sennheiser pads that get a bath every 3-6 months that seem to have retained a very high percentage of their original sound quality after a couple of years. 

No one really talked about the longevity of Hifiman pleather earpads (which is the foundation of the Jergpad mod), guess we'll just have to use em, wait and see.

post #765 of 1702

One concern would be to how the stitching on the modulor jergpads will fair to a regular bath every few months. Speaking of which - is that just a warm soapy bath you soak your pads in? What is the reason for soaking the whole thing. Sweat, hair, skin?

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