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post #871 of 1320
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Originally Posted by mcook1970 View Post

Sure, I would say HP50 has a much wider soundstage, more smooth midrange and natural bass sound, treble is clear and not "sparkly".
The M500 is much brighter and faster, very exciting to listen to, you kind of feel the energy more although the soundstage is much narrower and there is a slight dip in the treble. 

Which is why I think it is hard to say which is the better headphone, you really need to listen to both to explore which sound you prefer
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Originally Posted by alpha10 View Post

Oh no, I think the HP50 and M500 are very different, I have them both, but I must admit I like the M500 more, why?

The M500 is much more comfortable, the sound is more dynamic and I like the rounded treble, makes bad recordings sound tolerable. The HP50 is more neutral and more "correct", but the M500 is more fun to listen to.

Soundstage is best on HP50, no doubt, which is the biggest plus to the HP50 compared to M500.

Build quality is much better on M500, really feels well made. HP50 is just plastic.

Thanks for the replies, guys! Guess the M500 is more for me since you say it's more "fun" in the sense that its slightly warmer/bassier.

Preciate it!
post #872 of 1320

My bad, M80s also 40mm driver. The more time I get with the HP50 the more I like them. I shall even retract my earlier feeling that the bass wasn't round enough. I am like most people here very, very happy with this headphone and I fully expect that to continue. Here is the real kicker, I own the fabulous (to my ears anyway) NAD M3 Integrated, but it has no headphone input! I would love to hear a NAD driving a NAD! Wasn't meant to be I guess. Perhaps this is heresy, but like my VModa M80, I like to use a parametric EQ to shave back the low frequencies of the HP50 just a hair. I find it allows even more articulation. I never add with EQing, but subtracting just a tiny bit in a few select, and narrow frequency ranges seems to improve things. Perhaps I have just trained my ear and anything that is more energetic in these frequencies seems more pronounced as a result? I was not an EQ user by principle until I had my D7000s, and gorgeous bass or not, I needed a little less of it and that is when I started to learn the value of minor cuts.

post #873 of 1320

I don't understand why EQ'ing is so discredited and criticised. I recognize that the R&D team puts in a great deal of time, money and energy into perfecting the frequencies of the headphones or equipment, but if you personally feel it could use a slight bump in the mid-bass region, why not? If you're happier as a result, why not? We bastardize the physical aspects of a headphone by replacing the ear pads, bending and twisting the headband, swapping the cable with our preferred manufacturer, yet no one bats an eyelid; in fact it's encouraged.

post #874 of 1320
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Originally Posted by AngryGoldfish View Post
 

I don't understand why EQ'ing is so discredited and criticised. I recognize that the R&D team puts in a great deal of time, money and energy into perfecting the frequencies of the headphones or equipment, but if you personally feel it could use a slight bump in the mid-bass region, why not? If you're happier as a result, why not? We bastardize the physical aspects of a headphone by replacing the ear pads, bending and twisting the headband, swapping the cable with our preferred manufacturer, yet no one bats an eyelid; in fact it's encouraged.

probably because most folks have no idea what they are doing when it comes to eq. :D  Sonic Defender seems to have a very good approach.

post #875 of 1320
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Originally Posted by bixby View Post
 

probably because most folks have no idea what they are doing when it comes to eq. :D  Sonic Defender seems to have a very good approach.


 Probably, yeah.

post #876 of 1320

I grew up in the 80s with huge Pioneer HPM 100 speakers and 12 band graphic equalizers with that nice old U sweep and never realized just what the heck I was doing! Now I finally understand there is so much that can be done with only the most minor of changes. Who knew?

post #877 of 1320

Tracking looks like I will get mine tomorrow....can't wait.

post #878 of 1320
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Originally Posted by Sonic Defender View Post
 

I grew up in the 80s with huge Pioneer HPM 100 speakers and 12 band graphic equalizers with that nice old U sweep and never realized just what the heck I was doing! Now I finally understand there is so much that can be done with only the most minor of changes. Who knew?

One of these bad boys?

 

post #879 of 1320

Yah, that's the one!

post #880 of 1320
Yeah, but remember headphones are highly subjective, even though I prefer the M500 it's not certain that you will, they are both very good, what you prefer is up to personal preference.
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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post


Thanks for the replies, guys! Guess the M500 is more for me since you say it's more "fun" in the sense that its slightly warmer/bassier.

Preciate it!
post #881 of 1320
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Originally Posted by alpha10 View Post

Yeah, but remember headphones are highly subjective, even though I prefer the M500 it's not certain that you will, they are both very good, what you prefer is up to personal preference.

 

I do know this, already. That's why I asked you to compare the HP50 to a headphone I already own and like (M500). You just confirmed that the HP50 is more neutral than the M500... which is not what I'm looking for in a portable. So... yeah... I'll be passing up on the HP50 based on my research (which you helped with)... not your personal preference... :wink_face:

 

Either way, had to put up my M500 for sale for financial reasons. Later down the line I'll look into another portable, or just re-buy the M500 for a third time :tongue: 


Edited by Change is Good - 3/31/14 at 8:36pm
post #882 of 1320

Just came back here to say that after 4 months using these headphones for 8 hours a day, these are still going strong! 

 

When I first got these headphones, they didn't really wow me but they are sort of neutral so I guess that comes with the territory. When I randomly switched back to my sister's M-Audio Q40, I noticed how much better the NADs rendered the vocals and then it hit me. Still wish that the NADs had a little better dynamics, meaning a little more V-shape to them, just a little more though. Maybe the P7s can be the best of both worlds. 


Edited by Karnoffel - 3/31/14 at 8:33pm
post #883 of 1320
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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post

 

Either way, had to put up my M500 for sale for financial reasons. Later down the line I'll look into another portable, or just re-buy the M500 for a third time :tongue: 

 

Get the Mikros 90's from newegg for $60. You won't regret it. Even if they are not as fun as the M500's, you may very well end up liking them more. Seriously. And they're only $60...

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=mikros+90&N=-1&isNodeId=1

post #884 of 1320
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post
 

 

Get the Mikros 90's from newegg for $60. You won't regret it. Even if they are not as fun as the M500's, you may very well end up liking them more. Seriously. And they're only $60...

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=mikros+90&N=-1&isNodeId=1

 

I might just look into it, ma'sa' wayne! Gotta sell some gear, first, and make up for some finances. I'm in a but of a bind, at the moment...

 

Sorry guys! Continue on with your HP50 talk...

post #885 of 1320

Just got my HP50's today. ...

Makes a nice change of style to my other cans. I can see how they can be worn for a long-time....very smooth slightly dark signature....no upper region fatigue.

Can get the micro-detail from my planars when I need that slant. They are also as others mentioned, forgiving of audio mastering quality that can really show up for better or worse with planars.

The headband is not so bad as I imagined looks-wise. They may not be for everyone, but they are certainly for me.

Thanks to previous posters who reviewed them in a positive light....


Edited by Lohb - 4/2/14 at 5:12am
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