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post #841 of 1325
I thought I'd post some of my thoughts from a PM to another member comparing these to the HE400s, just in case that info is of any use to anyone:

Very sensitive, so don't need amping and play well from anything

Everything sounds great out of them, unlike the HE400s, which can be harsh with certain recordings

Very 'natural' sound, slightly warm if anything. Realistic and neutral.

Some treble roll off, which compliments the HE400s well. No loss of detail with the roll off and amazing detail in the midrange, more so than the HE400s.

Focus on the midrange, I suppose, but the bass is present, full and detailed. Direct comparison shows the NADs to have a fatter, rounder bass than the HE400s, but don't present the sub bass quite as vividly.

May have issues with fit if your head is big. I have no issues with the fit and find them cosy, quite tight and nicely isolating. Less weight and more snug than the HE400s.

Maybe not as exciting as the HE400s. The HE400s get more exciting the louder they go and can seem to handle limitless volume! The NADs go loud without ANY hint of harshness or pain, part of that 'nice and smooth' character which is apparent.

The HE400s have a definite signature, which permeates everything, the NADs seem to avoid lending any particular character or obvious colour to the sound, which translates as very neutral and natural to my ears.

Everything sounds right with the NADs and any attempt to EQ made them sound worse to me, which I think is a good sign.

Cable is short on the NADs, maybe too short, but apparently, replacements from other brands work too, as it's a pretty standard jack connector.

The HE400s may be a tad faster at responding and certainly sound a bit more quicker and energetic, but there is a complex lushness to the NADs that compliments the HE400s well.

I find it hard to criticise the NADs at all. It feels like I can plug them into anything anywhere and they sound great. They just look a bit daft for wearing out in public, but I don't care!

Packaging and included extras are very, very nice and give the feel of a real premium product.



As you can see, I am selling the NADs quite strongly to you. They are one of the best headphones I've ever heard and I especially like their versatility and neutrality. I really feel like I'm hearing close to what the artist intended with these cans.



For longer listening sessions, the tight pads may get warm but I havent' experienced this yet. Also, you may be disappointed if you want a bass-hyped, or generally over hyped sound - these don't do that. They present the music with warmth, elegance and clairty without even a hint of harshness EVER.
post #842 of 1325

Excellent review.

post #843 of 1325

Haha, that really makes me want to buy one immediately.  I'm still going back and forth between these and the Mad Dog Pro as my next portable can (to replace my M100).  Tough choice!

post #844 of 1325
I need help from HP50 owners.. Have you guys pair the HP50 with the regular DACPort (10ohm output impedance)? I wonder if it will be a good match.
post #845 of 1325

Tracking information says my Visio will arrive tomorrow! Really looking forward to hearing them. It is a shame I sold my Auditor, but my E12 should still do a good job with these. Looking forward to posting some impressions soon.

post #846 of 1325

Hi All,

 

Got my HP50"s last week after a recommendation from Claritas. Mr previous headphones were the Shure SRH750DJ's. They sound awesome straight out of the box. At 1st I made the mistake of comparing them to the Shure's bass extension but that was an obvious mistake. There is less base sure (excuse the pun) which I will have to get used to but is certainly more textured. The mids and highs to me are nothing short of brilliant. I was going to go with the Momentum's but took a punt and I am very happy with the results. Stevie Ray Vaughan's Tin Pan Alley sounds phenomenal. Another album I have been testing them with is Larry Carlton's Friends. As is painfully obvious, I am not as into comparisons as some of you veteran Headfiers as I do not possess a great knowledge of Audio Theory but I have to say I love these cans despite the $350.00 price tag in Australia.

 

One question though. They are obviously not designed to be amped but I am using them with the iBasso D6 and rockboxed 5th gen iPod Classic. As far as I have been able to find out the maximum input seems to be 30mw. Is that right? The Shures were rated at 3000mw!! I have my music reasonably loud but not ear splitting. Should I be concerned about overloading??

 

Do these cans benefit from burning in say with the Tekfusion burn-in player??

 

Many thanks to Claritas for the assistance and recommendation.


Edited by mullos - 3/25/14 at 8:38pm
post #847 of 1325

Anyone here own both the M500 and HP50? This is my second time owning the M500, and absolutely love it (reason I went back). I still, however, am extremely curious about the HP50. Some comparisons would be greatly appreciated!

post #848 of 1325
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Originally Posted by mullos View Post
 

Hi All,

 

Got my HP50"s last week after a recommendation from Claritas. Mr previous headphones were the Shure SRH750DJ's. They sound awesome straight out of the box. At 1st I made the mistake of comparing them to the Shure's bass extension but that was an obvious mistake. There is less base sure (excuse the pun) which I will have to get used to but is certainly more textured. The mids and highs to me are nothing short of brilliant. I was going to go with the Momentum's but took a punt and I am very happy with the results. Stevie Ray Vaughan's Tin Pan Alley sounds phenomenal. Another album I have been testing them with is Larry Carlton's Friends. As is painfully obvious, I am not as into comparisons as some of you veteran Headfiers as I do not possess a great knowledge of Audio Theory but I have to say I love these cans despite the $350.00 price tag in Australia.

 

One question though. They are obviously not designed to be amped but I am using them with the iBasso D6 and rockboxed 5th gen iPod Classic. As far as I have been able to find out the maximum input seems to be 30mw. Is that right? The Shures were rated at 3000mw!! I have my music reasonably loud but not ear splitting. Should I be concerned about overloading??

 

Do these cans benefit from burning in say with the Tekfusion burn-in player??

 

Many thanks to Claritas for the assistance and recommendation.

I'm assuming from Couldn't Stand the Weather?

 

Have you heard Live at Montreux?

 

It is one of my cherished possessions and it sounds incredible on the NADs.

post #849 of 1325
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Originally Posted by Painful Chafe View Post
 

I'm assuming from Couldn't Stand the Weather?

 

Have you heard Live at Montreux?

 

It is one of my cherished possessions and it sounds incredible on the NADs.

 

I do have a live version of it as well somewhere but will have to dig it up. It's the longer version I'm assuming. Might have been on an album he did with Albert King. I believe he played twice at Montreux, the 1st time apparently was not well received I have heard. To which concert are you referring and where do I get it??

 

Edit: Found it, It's on Blues at Sunrise released 2000.


Edited by mullos - 3/25/14 at 9:08pm
post #850 of 1325
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Originally Posted by mullos View Post
 

 

I do have a live version of it as well somewhere but will have to dig it up. It's the longer version I'm assuming. Might have been on an album he did with Albert King. I believe he played twice at Montreux, the 1st time apparently was not well received I have heard. To which concert are you referring and where do I get it??

 

Edit: Found it, It's on Blues at Sunrise released 2000.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stevie-Ray-Vaughan-and-Double-Trouble-Live-At-Montreux-1982-1985-DVD-2004-/131146091388?pt=US_DVD_HD_DVD_Blu_ray&hash=item1e88ea8b7c

 

 

Here is a video of it. Tin Pan Alley with Johnny Copeland is at 30 minutes. Ridiculously good. But the whole thing from start to end is great. For any guys that think SRV is just that goofy crap they play on the radio should give this album a listen. If you are a blues guitar fan it is a must.

 

 


Edited by Painful Chafe - 3/26/14 at 12:50am
post #851 of 1325

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Originally Posted by mullos View Post
 

...One question though. They are obviously not designed to be amped but I am using them with the iBasso D6 and rockboxed 5th gen iPod Classic. As far as I have been able to find out the maximum input seems to be 30mw. Is that right? The Shures were rated at 3000mw!! I have my music reasonably loud but not ear splitting. Should I be concerned about overloading??

 

Do these cans benefit from burning in say with the Tekfusion burn-in player??

 

Many thanks to Claritas for the assistance and recommendation.

 

Personally, I don't think you need to worry about too much burn-in, they certainly don't need anywhere the same burn-in as a pair of P7s.

I found them good to go straight from the box, although like any headphone there will be a slight burn-in period but I hardly noticed any (and I have owned them for 6 months and they sound just like they did when I purchased them,

 

In terms of amping, I have used different amps with them from (Fiio E17, E12, E11 & E6 and O2 for home use) - personally, I think you don't need to worry about amping them, although if you do want to ramp up the sound on them they do not appear to lose too much clarity at higher volumes, but I haven't felt the need to do this, I don't find I need to play them "loud" the output seems fine. In fact, I tend to use the E6 with them just to give them a little more drive than relying on the amp on my iPod Classic.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Change is Good View Post
 

Anyone here own both the M500 and HP50? This is my second time owning the M500, and absolutely love it (reason I went back). I still, however, am extremely curious about the HP50. Some comparisons would be greatly appreciated!

I previously owned the M500 before purchasing the HP50.

 

I loved the M500, I had also demo'd thr B&O H6 and B&W P7 and for me the M500 were the best all round winner, they were very fun sounding although because they were on-ear I did have some comfort issues. 

 

The reason I went for the HP50 is that I demo'd them at my local Apple Store and couldn't walk away without buying them, they sound absolutely awesome with and without an amp. They just made everything seem pristine, accurate and clear. So after that I couldn't go back to the M500's.

 

I think at the end of the day it all comes down to personal preference, I still think the M500 are an excellent pair of headphones and is a worthy competitor to the HP50 and the like.

 

I would strongly recommend you demo'ing them if you can, you may find you still prefer the M500's over them but is definitely worth a try.


Edited by mcook1970 - 3/26/14 at 8:22am
post #852 of 1325
exactly the same happened to me. still own both, but the nad is the by far best closed headphone under 500$. they still get some listening time even though i got a t5p couple of days ago. the nads have some kind of magic in presenting any music flawless and just right.
post #853 of 1325

My HP 50 hardly have any treble. Heck it make my LCD-2 become kind of a treble headphone who would believe that :)

 

It´s certainly okay to listen to but anything where I crave realism like movies, games etc they don´t really do the job due to the lack of top end that make everything sound to muffled, warm and soft. But that make them insanely forgiving too.

post #854 of 1325
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Originally Posted by oqvist View Post
 

My HP 50 hardly have any treble. Heck it make my LCD-2 become kind of a treble headphone who would believe that :)

 

It´s certainly okay to listen to but anything where I crave realism like movies, games etc they don´t really do the job due to the lack of top end that make everything sound to muffled, warm and soft. But that make them insanely forgiving too.

jeepers, you have nice equipment, I am shocked to hear you are not getting treble from the HP-50s.  They have treble, well at least mine do. Are you sure they are not damaged?

post #855 of 1325

Thanks mcook1970 for you reply.

 

So basically your saying it's OK to amp them. I have my iPod classic permanently attached to my D6 amp so in a way I have to!!

 

Now as far as these things being fingerprint magnets which indeed they are I came across something for the fussy amongst us, including myself.

 

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/200933252455?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 

Clip this to your NAD case and your good to go.

 

I would be interested in hearing others headfiers experiences with amping these HP50's.

 

Still a little worried about this 30mw power handling capacity.

 

Cheers.


Edited by mullos - 3/26/14 at 5:20pm
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