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Originally Posted by Tyll Hertsens View Post
 

 

Say mate, I think you're under a misconception.  Only the FR measurements are done five times and averaged.  All the rest of the IF measurements are done only one time in the central position of the headphones.

Thanks Tyll for the clarification.  So now we know...FR is averaged 5X and the rest are single measurements for IF (and a single FR measurement for Headroom in the central position). BTW, you were spot on the HP50s. Very seductive sounding headphones. :smile: 

post #632 of 1407

I got a bit bored this evening, so I decided to see if I could "pad roll" the velour pads from my Beyerdynamic DT250-250 on to my HP50. 

 

Here is the result: 

 

 

 

 

Eureka! They fit! Well, they actually "fit" in name only. As you can see from the last photo, the sides stick out considerably. While they fit on top and bottom (and actually are a perfect height match), the DT250 pads are too wide. They leave a gap out the sides that both leaks sound and prevents a proper acoustic seal.

 

So, given the above, what did they sound like? Ha! Terrible. The mids became way forward and holy crap did the HP50s become piercingly bright. At the same time, all of the bass vanished from the lack of a decent seal. They went from the best closed phone I've ever heard to something just stunningly bad. 

 

It's too bad, because (IMO) they looked much better with the larger rounder pads and they certainly felt better on the head. 

post #633 of 1407
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Originally Posted by AustinValentine View Post

 

It's too bad, because (IMO) they looked much better with the larger rounder pads and they certainly felt better on the head. 

I don't think any pad mod can make those "look good". 

post #634 of 1407

I really want to try these, but they are butte ugly with that headband. What were they they thinking??!!??

 

I might have to give the Momentum or AKG - K545 a shot. Sorry, but it matters.

post #635 of 1407
Try the K545 first :-) Unless you prefer a warmer signature and less soundstage.
post #636 of 1407
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Originally Posted by Rudiger View Post

Try the K545 first :-) Unless you prefer a warmer signature and less soundstage.
+1
post #637 of 1407
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Originally Posted by Rudiger View Post

Try the K545 first :-) Unless you prefer a warmer signature and less soundstage.

I had K550 which is a full size unlike K545 and it still hadn't had the soundstage of HP50. I never thought HP50 sound warm either. Like everything sound, all of it very subjective of course, also depends on an original recording. 

The reason I bought K550 initially because my favorite open headphone is K702, I understood that K550 closed and will not have a soundstage like K702, but they disappointed me a lot because they sounded great, but there wasn't a trace of soundstage. HP50 on the other hand has a very good soundstage, not a great one like K702 but still very comparable.

Just like some crave bass I crave soundstage and to me good and excellent headphones divide into 2 categories, ones that have great sound and other that have great sound and soundstage. Momentum, which I also tried has a great sound, but no soundstage like HP50, same goes for Grado headphones, which I love for the sound they produce. HP50 ended my 3 year long search for a closed headphone with a soundstage that I can use during my commute, I also pull them out of my bag when I feel like listening something at night and do not want to disturb my family.

post #638 of 1407
Yep, i was talking about Momentum vs k545. The soundstage of the Nad is ok IMO, but sound unrealistic to me. Eeerh, yes, this can sounds very special. But fun, certainly. But I even prefer the k701 even if it gives the feeling of being far behind the stage and seems to focus on anything... Momentum sounds ok but too warm to me (and the nad too). I like the k445, better than k550 ... So... In summary yes the Nad is fun but i found the k545 to be more realistic. (Sorry for my crap english i'm french :-)
Edited by Rudiger - 1/26/14 at 1:50pm
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...Finally i think that the sound of the Nad is a 'hate or love' thing. It is special but if you like it, great because it have very good aspects (punch, isolation, soundstage and details) But again, too warm, irrealistic and fatiguing to me (Looks like he does too much, as a good student who would make a dissertation of 10 pages instead of 4.wink.gif (I am fan of Nad otherwise, as you can see in my signature)
Edited by Rudiger - 1/26/14 at 1:56pm
post #640 of 1407
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Originally Posted by Jwm48324 View Post
 

I needed a closed headphone for airplane travel. I bought both the Bose QC3 and the NADHP50.  The Bose isolates better and actually sounds pretty good, but has a bass that is a little too much and not the tightest. The NAD has much better bass and better highs so I am going to keep these. The Isolation is very good not like Bose, but I think good enough. I will just turn the vol. up a little more to compensate. I think these NAD's sound better than my Ultrasone Sig. Pros. By the way my source is the HIFIMAN 901.

I highly disagree. Sig Pros have so much more details in the sound than the NAD HP50.

post #641 of 1407
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Originally Posted by eron View Post
 

I highly disagree. Sig Pros have so much more details in the sound than the NAD HP50.

Sig Pro's measures considerable worse than the HP50 despite costing far more. I believe the HP50 sounds cleaner with better accuracy despite costing less.

 

 

post #642 of 1407
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Originally Posted by SonusAudio View Post
 

Sig Pro's measures considerable worse than the HP50 despite costing far more. I believe the HP50 sounds cleaner with better accuracy despite costing less.

 

 

That's par for the course with Ultrasone. ;)

post #643 of 1407

Too bad the pad mod didn't work out. Pleather is really warming.

post #644 of 1407

Anyone know where I can get a longer cable for the NAD visio?

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Can anyone make a comparison between the HP50 and any of these 3 headphones, just in terms of sound quality...        Shure SRH940, Audio Technica ATH-ESW9 or the AKG K550?

I'm trying to choose a closed-back model mainly for at-home listening, and I want to keep to a budget of $300AUS if possible. My at-home listening set-up currently is HE-500, Audio-GD SA-31SE, M2Tech Hiface and lap-top. On the whole, I'm quite content with this rig, it's just that I have a tendency to get tempted to turn the volume up evidently a little too loud at times. I've had tinnitus permanently since I first got a bit carried away when testing how a DT990 sound when you actually turn them up loud enough to enjoy the midrange (about a year or so ago), and this seems to be my major issue with open back headphones... the bar has been lifted in terms of the level of detail and instrument separation that I crave now, but even though I don't think I ever turn them up stupidly loud these days, I'm often torn between being careful not to risk exacerbating my tinnitus and having the music at a level where you feel immersed in the music in the same way as listening to a good stereo system. So my next headphone purchase will be of the sealed cup variety.

I have auditioned and was impressed with the SRH940 and the ATH-ESW9. Decided against picking up the Shures because I wanted a bit more weight in the bass and couldn't go for the Audio-Technica's because I thought durability wasn't good enough for a portable phone. I mentioned the K550 because I think it could be another viable option in the price range.

I would describe myself as a bass-head but I demand a good level of detail and a fully 'rounded' sound. If I can't have a basshead can that is also a genuine audiophile performer within this budget, then I'll settle for a more neutral headphone - as long as it does have punch to the bass and can do sub-bass. Definitely wouldn't be happy with something on the bass-light side of neutral. The opinions on the bass of the HP50 seem to vary quite a bit from what I've read. Obviously there's little doubt that they offer good value for money. 

I also own IE80s (which I love) and QuietComfort 2. Thanks a lot (in advance) for any opinions/comparisons.

I might use the cans outside the house from time to time but portability isn't a priority at all.

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