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post #601 of 1255

Holy Jebus, that AKG headband is fat. Well, I think the HP50's headband looks real nice and thin. To each his own I guess...

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Originally Posted by Karnoffel View Post
 

Holy Jebus, that AKG headband is fat. Well, I think the HP50's headband looks real nice and thin. To each his own I guess...

It conforms to the head actually pretty well. 

 

 

Credit: Tweezy

post #603 of 1255
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Originally Posted by SonusAudio View Post

The HP50 did have a unusual headband shape. I think the AKG K545 are a better looking HP50 with more bass emphasis. My cup of tee. beerchug.gif
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Yeah, the straight bar across your noggin' is just not a flattering look. I can see what AV above is saying though - if you get the bar buried in your curls, it might be an improvement.

Well, despite what I said above about the P7, I ended up picking them up as I was returning the HP50s. I was ready to pick up the P5 and call it a day, but decided to audition them against the P7. The P5s were acceptable for travel: nice and compact, portable, built well, isolates well, looks great! SQ was acceptable enough for having those other attributes, especially with the roar of a jet engine, for music or movies.

Will place the rest in spoilers, since this is the HP50 thread... Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Anyway, they didn't have the P7 on demo so ended up opening a new box for me to demo. I had about 30 minutes on the P5s before I put on P7, using my X3 and iPod Touch latest gen. I gotta say, the P5s were brighter, while the P7s were darker but a bit more controlled. One thing I was shocked to hear though is the instrument separation during Hotel California live was much better on the P5s. I'm chalking that up to lack of burn in. At least, I hope so. If, after burn in, I still hear it in favor of the P5s, bye bye P7s.

My biggest gripe about the P7s was the fit on my big ears. So, I spent about 30 min as well, letting it manhandle my ears and pin them down against my skull. After some time and after some stretching, they felt okay (aside for the potential to sweat). So, I'll give these a chance and hopefully I keep them. They are just so well built and handsome.
post #604 of 1255
I had to join just to weigh in here.

I bought these about a week ago and I the majority of the music I listen to is metal and rap, so I do look for headphones with a bit more bass. I tried a couple of pairs and one of my biggest concerns about purchasing these was the bass.

When I was testing them in the store, I thought the bass was just a touch lacking and after a long decision between a few sets I decided to go for them.

I DO NOT REGRET MY CHOICE AT ALL!

I didn't appreciate how much I enjoy the bass until owning them for a week. The bass definitely doesn't overwhelm the song (nor it should), but, the balance is really good and the bass is very present and deep in my opinion.

Some may think the bass is lacking but I think it is perfect and full and it has a solid impact.

You could always tip the bass up slightly if need be, but don't let it hold you back from getting these.

Very pleased with these so far.
post #605 of 1255

How does the bass respond to EQ on these?

post #606 of 1255
I've just received these today as a day early birthday present from my lovely lady. I've got so much to say about how amazing these cans are. I need more time to formulate how to express my thoughts about them, but I'm more impressed off the bat than with any other headphone I've ever purchased (though I didn't have to purchase these!). They are getting by the minute as I adjust and begin to appreciate what these cans are doing.

As far as closed back portable goes, these are without doubt my endgame. One journey has finally come to a close.

Back to listening...
Edited by amigomatt - 1/24/14 at 3:58pm
post #607 of 1255

How much bass compared to HE400?

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How much bass compared to HE400?

They are quite comparable actually.  The bass is beautiful on both cans and although quite present on the NADs, just not as physical and spacious as the HE400s, if that makes sense?  They are alike in the sense that they are true to the recording - if there's bass in the production, it's there, if not, it's not.  I just A/B's them with Daft Punk's Doin' it Right.  The NAD is a very direct and accurate sounding headphone, the HifiMan gives it a bit more 'showbusiness' if you like!  Both sound wonderful, but I'm liking the manners of the NAD right now..  I'm having the best new headphone time I've ever had.  I didn't have that with the HifiMans, I struggled with them and had a pervading sense of disappointment for a long time.  Jergpads and brain burn-in have sorted that out now.  Also, realising that I need to choose wisely from my rack of cans with my choice of music.  It's all good!

 

EDIT:  Just A/Bing the end of another Datf Punk tune once again, the mid bass is definitely more present on the NADS.  It doesn't obviously seem stronger though, as it's more neat and compact, whereas the bass on the HE400s is wider in stage (probably open/closed can syndrome).  I'm also more aware of the sub bass witht he NADs.  It's subtle, but true.  I get the feeling it's the closed can thing.


Edited by amigomatt - 1/24/14 at 6:14pm
post #609 of 1255

I'm listening right now to them (after pretty much all day at work) and I am very impressed! Paul Barton certainly knows good sound and these headphones definitely sound fantastic! They are up there with the B&O H6s and B&W P7s as my top 3 closed portable headphones. 

post #610 of 1255
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Originally Posted by amigomatt View Post
 

They are quite comparable actually.  The bass is beautiful on both cans and although quite present on the NADs, just not as physical and spacious as the HE400s, if that makes sense?  They are alike in the sense that they are true to the recording - if there's bass in the production, it's there, if not, it's not.  I just A/B's them with Daft Punk's Doin' it Right.  The NAD is a very direct and accurate sounding headphone, the HifiMan gives it a bit more 'showbusiness' if you like!  Both sound wonderful, but I'm liking the manners of the NAD right now..  I'm having the best new headphone time I've ever had.  I didn't have that with the HifiMans, I struggled with them and had a pervading sense of disappointment for a long time.  Jergpads and brain burn-in have sorted that out now.  Also, realising that I need to choose wisely from my rack of cans with my choice of music.  It's all good!

 

EDIT:  Just A/Bing the end of another Datf Punk tune once again, the mid bass is definitely more present on the NADS.  It doesn't obviously seem stronger though, as it's more neat and compact, whereas the bass on the HE400s is wider in stage (probably open/closed can syndrome).  I'm also more aware of the sub bass witht he NADs.  It's subtle, but true.  I get the feeling it's the closed can thing.

Amigomatt, standard 3.5 to 3.5 cable with this plugging system ?

post #611 of 1255
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Originally Posted by amigomatt View Post
 

I'm also more aware of the sub bass witht he NADs.  It's subtle, but true.  I get the feeling it's the closed can thing.

 

Subtle!?!?! :blink:

 

I heard it is as subtle myself, but this measurement screams otherwise.

 

post #612 of 1255
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Originally Posted by amigomatt View Post

 
They are quite comparable actually.  The bass is beautiful on both cans and although quite present on the NADs, just not as physical and spacious as the HE400s, if that makes sense?  They are alike in the sense that they are true to the recording - if there's bass in the production, it's there, if not, it's not.  I just A/B's them with Daft Punk's Doin' it Right.  The NAD is a very direct and accurate sounding headphone, the HifiMan gives it a bit more 'showbusiness' if you like!  Both sound wonderful, but I'm liking the manners of the NAD right now..  I'm having the best new headphone time I've ever had.  I didn't have that with the HifiMans, I struggled with them and had a pervading sense of disappointment for a long time.  Jergpads and brain burn-in have sorted that out now.  Also, realising that I need to choose wisely from my rack of cans with my choice of music.  It's all good!

EDIT:  Just A/Bing the end of another Datf Punk tune once again, the mid bass is definitely more present on the NADS.  It doesn't obviously seem stronger though, as it's more neat and compact, whereas the bass on the HE400s is wider in stage (probably open/closed can syndrome).  I'm also more aware of the sub bass witht he NADs.  It's subtle, but true.  I get the feeling it's the closed can thing.
Amigomatt, standard 3.5 to 3.5 cable with this plugging system ?
On the NADs? Yeah, all standard. You get 2 cables, one with remote, one without.
post #613 of 1255
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Originally Posted by amigomatt View Post


On the NADs? Yeah, all standard. You get 2 cables, one with remote, one without.


Yep, NADs. Then making a good short 40cm DAP cable would be OK for my mobile rig. Nice.

I just thought with that 'plug in on any side style' they may have designed something proprietary with the plugs.

post #614 of 1255
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On the NADs? Yeah, all standard. You get 2 cables, one with remote, one without.

 

Flat cables, with a right angle termination. Unfortunately, the right angle connectors are very flat and can't reach down into my case to reach the headphone jack. 

 

V-Moda Audio-Only Cable works great though. I can't recommend it highly enough for the HP50's.

post #615 of 1255
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Originally Posted by SonusAudio View Post
 

 

Subtle!?!?! :blink:

 

I heard it is as subtle myself, but this measurement screams otherwise.

 

There's more to measurements than just FR response. The distortion and impulse responses are a bit better on the NADs (as are both square wave responses). Plus the mids are a bit further subdued on the V-Modas and the treble a little more uneven.

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/NADVISOHP50.pdf

and

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/VModaM100.pdf

 

Keep in mind that Tyll takes measurements for both innerfidelity.com and Headroom, BUT, the innerfidelity plots are an average of 5 different measurements of 5 different locations on the dummy's head. So I tend to follow them instead. Hopefully he can get the ability to overlay them like Headroom does as it makes comparisons a whole lot easier.

 

Just for the record, I'm a big fan of the M-100s as well. 

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