awww man that counts me out. I would rather just stick with what I have. I don't want smaller cups
As for the smaller cups, it sits more like an on-ear instead of a true circumaural. But the lighter weight and the softer pads are growing on me. I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that either can will need occasional EQ. Some pieces sound intolerable with the bass of the NADs, whereas some other pieces sound intolerable with the intense treble of the P7s.
If I could only fuse the two; that would be an impossible DIY MOD!
I confirm dweaver's comment; the cups on the NADs are smaller than the P7s. The P7s fully "circumnavigate" my ears (although my attached lobes get pressed a little). Feeling a bit better about the NAD fit today. If I nudge my ears up, sort of into the fold between the pad and the driver, it gives my lobes a break and also kinda flattens out my ear (effectively spreading the contact with the thin cushion over the driver grill). So I'm not getting so much localized pressure on the part of my ear that sticks out the most.
I'm still concerned (and perplexed) by the bass. One of the tracks I use to test bass is "Fire" by the JHE. Yes, it's a nearly fifty year old recording but the heavy bass riff that opens the song is helpful to me in determining the extension and effectiveness of the bass. I was shocked to hear how the NADs handled this. It sounded "out of control" and overblown. The P7s handled this with less bloat and more detail. The "shock" came from having read all the comments about the P7s bloated bass and the NADs supposed neutrality. Again, I'll see if the bass settles down after some more burn. I do agree that the treble is more neutral than the P7s and I like it better. Even though the P7s have improved with time, they still have occasional harshness in the treble.
So this is becoming a real horse race, as to which one I prefer. Right now they both have pros and cons.
it's either keep one or send 'em both back!
...or, heaven forbid, keep 'em both!?
This is what happened to me re: the HP50's and Senn Momentum's -
ended up keeping both. Now, though, after having both for a couple
of months I'm leaning towards selling the Senn's and keeping the HP-50's.
Wondering why you're getting the 'bloated' bass out of the HP50's
as the bass on mine is pretty tight and authentic sounding.
Perhaps your amp or source isn't matching well with them?
Got my HP50s today!...actually got em on Friday but I waited until Xmas to open them so I'd have a gift for myself :) - Too early to judge (only 20 minutes into listening or so), plus I haven't got my Modi yet so kinda pointless testing them out now anyways.. This must have the shortest cord of any headphone! It's only about 3 ft long I'd say. So that's a bummer. I wonder why they decided to make it so short.
For those having the fit problem I mentioned earlier, here's a MOD I did this morning.
Last night I decided to hunker down with a movie, which meant having the headphones on for close to 2 hours. Initially they felt fine, but after the movie was over I was hurting. The middle part of my ear (what I think is called the antihelix) sticks out some. That was touching the driver grill. Initially I folded some tissues and pushed them under the ear pads (there is a space between the circumaural pad and the driver). That helped. I remembered that I had a few spare gel insoles for my shoes, so I measured the ear pads and cut the insoles to roughly match. I used the heel part because it's thicker around the edges. This seems to work pretty well. I'll try another long listening session and see how it goes.
Here are some shots of the rather crude MOD. I'll trim them with more precision if they work as well as they seem to.
BTW, it doesn't seem to affect the sound as far as I can tell...
Even with my low-tech mod, the fit isn't very good for me. For my ears the P7 is far more comfortable. The deeper cups are what I need. The sound signature on the HP50s is marginally better, but comfort will play a major role in my decision. I like the clarity of the B&W set; it's just occasionally fatiguing. And it still sounds to me like the bass is less focused on the NADs, no doubt a result of the warm "room feel" coloration. They are both very good sets; it comes down to subjective preference and fit.
Could you please make a comparison between NAD and PSB regarding both sound and comfort ?