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post #451 of 1320

well I am not asking if they have a different sonic signature. I am wondering if things like timbre, transparency, tonal qualities of the instruments and how they are represented are more refined than the PSB. I can say for sure that the AKG k545 to my ears had better timbre and was more refined than the PSB imo. Not talking detail retrieval, I found the akg to be the more accurate and realistic hp by a good margin. Just wondering what to expect with the NAD in those regards.

post #452 of 1320
The Nad is impressive but not realistic IMO
post #453 of 1320
Quote:
Originally Posted by BaTou069 View Post

After one week of use I think I'll sell the NAD VISO HP50
I bought them for several reasons: Inner Fidelity Wall of Fame, the name NAD, the Room Feel Technology, and some reviews...
Couldn't listen to them before purchase..

I agree that they sound very neutral and accurate, but I need a portable headphone and for this purpose these simply don't make it for me.
  • they don't look good on me, make my head looks like a square
  • they don't isolate very good
  • they leak a lot
  • they are too neutral for my tase

I can't confirm that they're uncomfortable. They are very comfy for me, and the thin headband doesn't bother me. Also on longer listening sessions these won't hurt my head.
But they don't sit too good on my head, meaning that I often find myself readjusting them back and forth. 

I have an impression that neither of the often compared headphones here in this thread will suite my need, since they sound more or less similar....momentum etc...

Maybe a V-Moda m100 will do the job, I dont' know.
I need something more fun, but still high SQ and highly detailed.
Something for mobile use, so no MrSpeaker etc..
Have an portable amp, so no problem if it needs amping

Any suggestions?

The V-Moda M-100 is very detailed and the sound quality is impressive but comfort-wise is horrible (didn't get to try the XL pads though) and they are extremely bassy, like 8db boost in the bass. Very V-shaped signature with recessed mids. I used to EQ them all the time. If you are into EQ'ing and can stand them on your head, go for them.
Edited by Ashade - 12/23/13 at 10:29am
post #454 of 1320
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BaTou069 View Post
 

After one week of use I think I'll sell the NAD VISO HP50

I bought them for several reasons: Inner Fidelity Wall of Fame, the name NAD, the Room Feel Technology, and some reviews...

Couldn't listen to them before purchase..

 

I agree that they sound very neutral and accurate, but I need a portable headphone and for this purpose these simply don't make it for me.

 

  • they don't look good on me, make my head looks like a square
  • they don't isolate very good
  • they leak a lot
  • they are too neutral for my tase

 

I can't confirm that they're uncomfortable. They are very comfy for me, and the thin headband doesn't bother me. Also on longer listening sessions these won't hurt my head.

But they don't sit too good on my head, meaning that I often find myself readjusting them back and forth. 

 

I have an impression that neither of the often compared headphones here in this thread will suite my need, since they sound more or less similar....momentum etc...

 

Maybe a V-Moda m100 will do the job, I dont' know.

I need something more fun, but still high SQ and highly detailed.

Something for mobile use, so no MrSpeaker etc..

Have an portable amp, so no problem if it needs amping

 

Any suggestions?

If by too neutral, you mean that you prefer more bass, then the M-100 with XL pads may be for you.

post #455 of 1320
Quote:
Originally Posted by BaTou069 View Post
 

After one week of use I think I'll sell the NAD VISO HP50

I bought them for several reasons: Inner Fidelity Wall of Fame, the name NAD, the Room Feel Technology, and some reviews...

Couldn't listen to them before purchase..

 

I agree that they sound very neutral and accurate, but I need a portable headphone and for this purpose these simply don't make it for me.

 

  • they don't look good on me, make my head looks like a square
  • they don't isolate very good
  • they leak a lot
  • they are too neutral for my tase

 

I can't confirm that they're uncomfortable. They are very comfy for me, and the thin headband doesn't bother me. Also on longer listening sessions these won't hurt my head.

But they don't sit too good on my head, meaning that I often find myself readjusting them back and forth. 

 

I have an impression that neither of the often compared headphones here in this thread will suite my need, since they sound more or less similar....momentum etc...

 

Maybe a V-Moda m100 will do the job, I dont' know.

I need something more fun, but still high SQ and highly detailed.

Something for mobile use, so no MrSpeaker etc..

Have an portable amp, so no problem if it needs amping

 

Any suggestions?

 

I think the Momentum sounds quite different from the HP50.

Brighter, more detailed, more dynamic, perhaps more bass as well.

 

I bought both thinking I would return one, but ended up keeping both

as they complement each other nicely.

 

If you've firmly decided against the Momentum, I highly recommend

that you listen to the Sony MDR-7520.  IMO better than both the

Senn and the NAD.

post #456 of 1320
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Originally Posted by cysmail View Post
 

Just bought a White HP50 after spending some time testing out the momentums and the NAD. The NAD won flat out with its comfort and sound quality (imo).

 

However....

 

wtf is up with the included cables.. they are so short.

 

Anyone replaced their cables yet? The input at the earcups seem to require a pretty slim plug.


http://v-moda.com/audio-only-cable/

post #457 of 1320

Thanks mate. Just ordered one!

post #458 of 1320
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Originally Posted by Craigster75 View Post
 

If by too neutral, you mean that you prefer more bass, then the M-100 with XL pads may be for you.

That's not what I meant. It just sounds somehow pale to my ears. Not very fun. But for a mobile can this could need a little more bass

The Alessandro MS1 has less bass but I prefer this Can to the NAD.

post #459 of 1320
I just use ibasso db2/pb2 single ended to the HP50, still using stock. The sound stage is pretty impressive for closed cans..awesome for symphony
post #460 of 1320

Hi--I just got my HP50s, and will be returning them immediately. I was astonished to see and feel how tiny the earcups on these are, and I can tell you, I have an average size head, and have been told during my 70 year life that I don't have large ears. My ears are compressed on these phones--around the edges as well as overall, because not only are the cups small, they are also shallow. These were so uncomfortable I never got around to evaluating the sound. My Beyer 990s are no doubt among the most comfortable phones, but I did not expect such a huge difference. Too bad trying before buying is next to impossible--at least where I live.

post #461 of 1320

Obviously, you want your headphones to be comfortable.

 

I think it's worth keeping in mind, though, that the Beyer 990's

(along with the 770's and 880's) have among the largest earcups

of any headphones available today.

post #462 of 1320

I posted my first impressions of the NAD VISO HP50s (specifically relative to the P7s) on a couple of other threads.

Seemed relevant here too, so...

 

Mainsail: See my impressions of the fit in the second paragraph (I also have the 990s).

 

To me, they sound more alike than they sound different. The upper end on the P7s has a more aggressive "pointed" sound, whereas the NADs reveal an upper end that seems to be more embedded into the mix. However this range doesn't seem to be missing anything (I'm not sensing a huge roll-off). What really surprised me is that the bass seems more "bloated" than the P7s! I'll burn these for awhile and see if that changes, although I've read that these are good to go out-of-the-box. More listening to come, but right now I'm liking the treble better than the P7s; it's less aggressive but most certainly there. As to the mids, wow, they seem really close to me (as in, not über different from the "recessed" mids of the P7s).

 

As far as fit is concerned, it's a bit dicey. I have no prob with the cushy headband on the NADs, but the ear cups share that munchkin size that so many cans seem to have adopted. They're reasonably soft but they don't go totally around my ears. Plus, my ears are touching the driver pad. That's gonna get old fast. I think I actually like the fit on the P7s more. They envelope my ears in a more circumaural manner, although my blasted "attached" earlobes are always problematic. The small and shallow ear cups of the NAD 'phones are a disappointment.

 

So, to recap on the NADs:

• The bass seems bloated.

• The treble seems to be more integrated with the mix (that's good!).

• The fit isn't perfect; the cups are small and shallow.

 

I'll post again after more burning and listening.

post #463 of 1320
I was also surprised how small the HP50 was they are like a slightly larger Momentum in regards to size. The Momentum rested fully on the outer parts o my ear, the HP50 in contrast touched the outside of my ear. The feeling was better than the Momentum but I was more than a little concerned about long term comfort. I place comfort pretty much equally with sound. This issue made it very easy for me to just want to continue to use the AKG K545 which I also slightly prefer for signature.
post #464 of 1320
Are the cups bigger than the p7?
post #465 of 1320
No they are smaller...
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