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Bought a pair today. HP50 in black. Definitely the best of the closed headphones I tried at the store (I also go to Worldwide Stereo near Philly) vs P7 and M4U1, but maybe less crisp than HD650's. But I need closed phones for the train.
In testing at home against TH900 (ok 5x the price) I had a little buyers regret on the NADs, because they seem less accurate but it's only on certain songs and isn't that why we own more than one headphone? wink.gif

Setup: MacBook or iphone4s to Resonessence Herus and sometimes a JDS bbCmoy

 

I'm pretty sure any 'buyer's regret' will vanish if you upgrade your amp (doesn't have

to be too big of an upgrade).  Assuming you're using a good soundcard and sourcing

from lossless files.  I'm finding that these headphones like power, and are demanding of

high quality input.  

 

(Not saying that they're as good as the TH900 or HD650 but at their price they're

excellent closed headphones and with the amp upgrade you'll really enjoy them.)

post #407 of 1406

I've had the HP50's now since Nov 5 2013, it's now December 16th.

I live in Calgary, AB but had to drive to Edmonton to purchase mine, nobody in town is carrying them.

In a nutshell, I'm crazy about "British" Sound. It's flat, accurate and never sounds strained.

 

I have a pair of Grado SR 60's which I bought just to keep the neighbours off my back at night and a superb pair of Shure SE535's.

Those are a significant bit pricier than the NADS.

 

In a word?

These don't sound anything like and American Headphone.

At all.

They open up a 'room' like nothing I've ever heard.

Imaging isn't so much IN your head as it is all around it.

 

They are uncanny. Pun intended.

I compared them, QUICKLY, to the KEF M500's back and forth over and over again and these feel, fit and sound very different.

The KEF's fall off your head if you tip it forward.

These don't.

I found the NADS dug about a teaspoon more detail out than the the KEFS but the fact that they were sealed, superb and would stay on your noggin' settled the decision, for me.

I bought them based on this REVIEW, that I'd only read the night before.

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/i-love-these-headphonesthe-nad-viso-hp50

 

Cheers,

 

John

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I have been working on a review for the HP50 for a little while.  Getting the final touches on the review has taken a little while due to a few things coming up.  That said, the review posted today, but I haven't heard the HP50 for a couple months (it seems).  I still thought they sounded really great to my ears.  A warmer, smoother sound that's very linear.  Quite respectable in many ways.  Anyways, the review is here: Review: NAD VISO HP50

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I have been working on a review for the HP50 for a little while.  Getting the final touches on the review has taken a little while due to a few things coming up.  That said, the review posted today, but I haven't heard the HP50 for a couple months (it seems).  I still thought they sounded really great to my ears.  A warmer, smoother sound that's very linear.  Quite respectable in many ways.  Anyways, the review is here: Review: NAD VISO HP50

 

Nice review tinyman.    For some reason I thought you only liked IEMs.  :blink:

post #410 of 1406
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Nice review tinyman.    For some reason I thought you only liked IEMs.  :blink:

 

LOL, that's originally where I started, with IEMs.  I've expanded out.  Personally, I do enjoy using over-ears during the winter months because they'll keep your ears nice and warm; they double as ear muffs XD  In the summer, I'm generally rocking IEMs.  That said, I do do the whole spectrum of headphones, on, over, and in.  But I can certainly see why someone would see why I only favor IEMs, I'm generally only in the portables section of the forums; rarely in the full-size.

 

Thanks for the kind words on the review though.  It's definitely appreciated :)

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Would like to know if anyone has done a comparison between the HP50 vs. the Sennheiser HD600? The reason I'm asking is that I like the sound of the HD600 that's been burrowed from a friend and thinking of purchasing a pair to complement the HE-400. I like the laid back warm sound of Sennheiser and not concerned about the "veil" that people bring up once in a while. Price wise there isn't much of a difference.
What is intriguing is the room feel that Paul Barton of PSB speaker fame has incorporated into the his latest headphone.
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Has anyone tried the white HP50s?  I hear that the glossy exterior is a fingerprint magnet, but I wonder whether the white version does a better job of concealing fingerprints.  

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The glossy exterior IS a fingerprint magnet...I have the Black pair, you just need to wipe them down now and again.

The fingerprints have seemed to have ZERO effect on the sound.

:atsmile:

 

John

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Would like to know if anyone has done a comparison between the HP50 vs. the Sennheiser HD600? The reason I'm asking is that I like the sound of the HD600 that's been burrowed from a friend and thinking of purchasing a pair to complement the HE-400. I like the laid back warm sound of Sennheiser and not concerned about the "veil" that people bring up once in a while. Price wise there isn't much of a difference.
What is intriguing is the room feel that Paul Barton of PSB speaker fame has incorporated into the his latest headphone.

I think it is not "apple to apple" when comparing closed to open phones.

 

HD600 will excel with proper amplification and more appropriate for home use.

HP50 is portable closed phones that can be driven with portable devices.

 

sound stage wise, they are very closed. However, properly driven HD600 are better in detail retrieval. I think you should choose according to your future usage.

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Growlings from an older headphone user with a long experience of cans (starting from the 80s, though all the major brands).

 

- cheap materials

- plasticky

- not circumaural by any definition of the measure on my ears. They are On-ear for most part for me (I have medium sized ears)

- too shallow pads, the element protective fabric scratches my ear, not nice for wearing comfort

- no proper seal (for me, on my ears)

- no proper grip/pressure for me (on my mid-sized head)

- visual aesthetics (both shape/structure and materials/surface) are well, a far cry from the fine luxury of say P7 or Momentum (look like cheap plastics from China)

- too short, flimsy headphone cables

- these are apparently meant for mobile use (cable, foldability), but their sturdiness, wearing looks and isolation do not stand up to that test, imho

- compromised isolation of sounds

+ very light

+ very good sound quality, after positioning properly

 

Personally I*m disappointed. Having to "buy blind" (can't test-drive Nad cans where I live) I must say I was very disappointed by the size and the fact that they are not circumaural/deep in the classical sense. They are much smaller than what they appear in most images, esp. the wearable pads (not the outside of the cans).

To me the only redeeming feature is the sound quality, but wearing comfort/isolation/flimsiness/aesthetics for me leave a lot to be desired.

 

Really waiting for the proper, high-grade, full-size sealed circumaural cans from Barton & Olive, who are my gurus. This is NOT it.  A sore disappointment. Of course for this price, I should not have expected much more.

 

YMMV, of course.

My recommendation: test them, before you buy.

 

And yes, I'm very, very picky and I call things as I (not you, not the average person) experiences them :)
 

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They fit me well, but I agree on the other points. They do sound great, but their appearance and build quality just leave too much to be desired. They look ginormous and square on my head, and I'm not a huge fan of the materials used.

It's okay for a headphone to be ugly, but not one that's designed to be portable and worn out. Honestly I don't see this mentioned enough about these and maybe I'm being overly critical, but the design on these given their intended use is simply unacceptable, and the choice of materials leaves a lot to be desired as well.

Sound quality vs the Momentum and P7 is a valid debate and fit is specific to the individual so each may work better for some people, but in terms of design and materials these are clearly a notch below the other two and especially the P7. Sure the P7 costs more, but it's only an extra $100 and I feel like I'm literally getting twice the headphone in terms of design and materials.
post #418 of 1406
I love the sound but a little disappointed that these phones arent meant to be walk around the streets with....esp. I already have the M4U 1 for bed side use already....so....
Anywwy, hope they will improve on the head band i think its what sticks out the most...
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How do the NAD HP 50 compare to the M4U1 in regards to sound, comfort and build quality?
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I love the sound but a little disappointed that these phones arent meant to be walk around the streets with....esp. I already have the M4U 1 for bed side use already....so....
Anywwy, hope they will improve on the head band i think its what sticks out the most...
post #420 of 1406
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How do the NAD HP 50 compare to the M4U1 in regards to sound, comfort and build quality?

 

sound: same SS, M4U  has a bigger sound stage (very slight) and seems to have better detail retrieval when using HM-901 as source... In a way, I like the M4U 1 better because music sounds more engaging...

 

Please take with grain of salt bcos I only A/B them for one hour and using one portable source...

 

comfort: same

 

build quality: same plastic-ish but sturdy

 

M4U 1 design is a bit "unique" because from the look of it, you would not expect them as "audiophile neutral" sounding phones.....

 

The reason of getting HP50 is to get that M4U 1 sound on the go.... but the headband really sticks out too much and looks weird on the head... (just my personal feelings).

 

I will send them for balance mod and upgrade better cable after the holidays.... (not sure if it is possible yet, fingers crossed) I am hoping it will become less "polite" and more engaging...

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