NAD Viso HP50 : Another superb headphone from Paul Barton?
Oct 16, 2014 at 3:26 PM Post #1,428 of 3,344
THESE SOUND WONDERFUL.
 
Oct 16, 2014 at 7:17 PM Post #1,429 of 3,344
  THESE SOUND WONDERFUL.

Indeed.  These headphones are the pair I was most impressed with on first listen.  They continue to do everything just right.  Very difficult to fault cans.
 
Oct 16, 2014 at 9:19 PM Post #1,430 of 3,344
Still enjoying my HP50's however they could be a little more comfortable and I would not mind a little more bass. Build quality could be better too IMHO which leads me to my question.
 
I can get the Philips Fidelio L1 from that site we cannot mention for what appears to be a very good price. Build quality and comfort that looks to be superior to the NAD's and more Bass. Just how much more I'm not sure. So my fellow HP50's aficionados, does anybody on this thread own, or used to own, the L1's and if so, you comments and thoughts re comparisons would be most welcome.
 
Very tempted to pull the trigger as I might be able to resell them for no loss here in AU should they prove to be no match for the HP50's. The build quality is desirable and I know it does not matter at the end of the day because the sound is the most important feature obviously but hell, they are one good looking set of cans.
 
Cheers.
 
Oct 16, 2014 at 9:37 PM Post #1,431 of 3,344
I agree that build quality doesn't seem very good but what more can you ask for $300?
 
The sound is above $300, and I can say some things sound better on these than they do on the highly praised HD650.
 
Oct 16, 2014 at 9:49 PM Post #1,432 of 3,344
  I agree that build quality doesn't seem very good but what more can you ask for $300?
 
The sound is above $300, and I can say some things sound better on these than they do on the highly praised HD650.

Thank you for your reply.
 
$350.00 here in AU when I purchased them. We get seriously screwed on pricing. Yes, I agree they do sound good however my ears are slightly bigger than the cups and they are in addition very shallow cups at that. I can get the L1's for $130.00 landed which is why I am asking the question re L1's vs HP50's. If the SQ is close and say about 3-4 more db of bass, the large cups and build quality of the L1's compared to the NAD's may make it a compelling reason to purchase. I have 4 days to make up my mind!!
 
Cheers.
 
Oct 16, 2014 at 10:22 PM Post #1,433 of 3,344
 
  I agree that build quality doesn't seem very good but what more can you ask for $300?
 
The sound is above $300, and I can say some things sound better on these than they do on the highly praised HD650.

Thank you for your reply.
 
$350.00 here in AU when I purchased them. We get seriously screwed on pricing. Yes, I agree they do sound good however my ears are slightly bigger than the cups and they are in addition very shallow cups at that. I can get the L1's for $130.00 landed which is why I am asking the question re L1's vs HP50's. If the SQ is close and say about 3-4 more db of bass, the large cups and build quality of the L1's compared to the NAD's may make it a compelling reason to purchase. I have 4 days to make up my mind!!
 
Cheers.

I would buy it from a place with a good return policy and then compare if I was in your situation.
 
Oct 18, 2014 at 7:43 PM Post #1,435 of 3,344
I have decided to do a Mark "Chopper" Read alteration to my ears so they fit in comfortably inside the HP50 cups.
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Got my hands on some DSF files last night and god damn if these headphones aren't bloody brilliant. Don't know what I was thinking when considering the L1's as a replacement. Maybe just a case of gas.
 
BTW the SACD is Roger Waters The Wall live in Berlin 1990. The mix is a little bass heavy but the NAD's with their relatively neutral sound signature nail it. Used X5 for playback. Awesome.
 
Cheers.
 
Oct 20, 2014 at 5:43 AM Post #1,436 of 3,344
 
 
Sure it looks nasty, but works like a charm :)
 
Put a glue a little inside the hole and a little on the metallic part, then insert it and hold several minutes. Then you can put it aside, and wait for an hour before you can use them.
No brainer - just a glue, you know. But a really strong one.

 
Thanks. I'll contact the seller and try to get replacement parts first though. :wink: That does indeed look nasty and I'd like to do a more robust repair, as I'm wearing these outside all the time. We'll see, if replacement parts are available...
 
Oct 26, 2014 at 8:00 PM Post #1,437 of 3,344
Does anyone have any experience with cable upgrades for the NADs?  I just saw this pure silver cable on ebay, claiming for sound:
 
  1. Air and transparency
  2. More precise and articulated highs
  3. Impression of 'speed' across the midrange
  4. Individual instruments will radiate from their own space
 
  1. Needs 100 hours burn in
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pure-Solid-Silver-upgrade-cable-for-BeoPlay-H6-NAD-VISO-HP50-Logitech-UE9000-/171436801450?pt=UK_Computing_Sound_Vision_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item27ea6dfdaa
 
 
Now, some of that I would be skeptical of, like cables needing burn in, but I have heard that pure silver does change the sound signature of some cans, especially the highs and I'm wondering whether this might just compliment the somewhat rolled off top end of the NADs.  Don't get me wrong, I love my NADs as they are, but the thought of a little more extensions and openness up top might just be the icing on the cake, no?
 
£74 seems a lot of money to waste on a a cable though if it does nothing!
 
Oct 26, 2014 at 8:47 PM Post #1,438 of 3,344
  Does anyone have any experience with cable upgrades for the NADs?  I just saw this pure silver cable on ebay, claiming for sound:
 
  1. Air and transparency
  2. More precise and articulated highs
  3. Impression of 'speed' across the midrange
  4. Individual instruments will radiate from their own space
 
  1. Needs 100 hours burn in
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pure-Solid-Silver-upgrade-cable-for-BeoPlay-H6-NAD-VISO-HP50-Logitech-UE9000-/171436801450?pt=UK_Computing_Sound_Vision_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item27ea6dfdaa
 
 
Now, some of that I would be skeptical of, like cables needing burn in, but I have heard that pure silver does change the sound signature of some cans, especially the highs and I'm wondering whether this might just compliment the somewhat rolled off top end of the NADs.  Don't get me wrong, I love my NADs as they are, but the thought of a little more extensions and openness up top might just be the icing on the cake, no?
 
£74 seems a lot of money to waste on a a cable though if it does nothing!

I would go with this model from Forza Audio Works. Less than half the price. Better build quality and of course it's Matthew. A top bloke who has been looking after Head.fi'ers for some time. The order process does not specifically mention the HP50 but he can do it as I have already asked him via email and will be getting one myself eventually.
 
http://forzaaudioworks.com/en/product.php?id_product=34
 
Plenty more options available.
 
http://forzaaudioworks.com/en/category.php?id_category=36
 
See existing thread here;
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/661441/forza-audioworks-the-appreciation-thread
 
Cheers.
 
Oct 26, 2014 at 9:00 PM Post #1,439 of 3,344
 
  Does anyone have any experience with cable upgrades for the NADs?  I just saw this pure silver cable on ebay, claiming for sound:
 
  1. Air and transparency
  2. More precise and articulated highs
  3. Impression of 'speed' across the midrange
  4. Individual instruments will radiate from their own space
 
  1. Needs 100 hours burn in
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pure-Solid-Silver-upgrade-cable-for-BeoPlay-H6-NAD-VISO-HP50-Logitech-UE9000-/171436801450?pt=UK_Computing_Sound_Vision_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item27ea6dfdaa
 
 
Now, some of that I would be skeptical of, like cables needing burn in, but I have heard that pure silver does change the sound signature of some cans, especially the highs and I'm wondering whether this might just compliment the somewhat rolled off top end of the NADs.  Don't get me wrong, I love my NADs as they are, but the thought of a little more extensions and openness up top might just be the icing on the cake, no?
 
£74 seems a lot of money to waste on a a cable though if it does nothing!

I would go with this model from Forza Audio Works. Less than half the price. Better build quality and of course it's Matthew. A top bloke who has been looking after Head.fi'ers for some time. The order process does not specifically mention the HP50 but he can do it as I have already asked him via email and will be getting one myself eventually.
 
http://forzaaudioworks.com/en/product.php?id_product=34
 
Plenty more options available.
 
http://forzaaudioworks.com/en/category.php?id_category=36
 
See existing thread here;
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/661441/forza-audioworks-the-appreciation-thread
 
Cheers.

Thanks for the link, there's lots of products on there to glean my interest!  These are not pure silver though, are they?  It was the very qualities of the pure silver cable I posted that interested me.
 
Oct 26, 2014 at 9:27 PM Post #1,440 of 3,344
  Thanks for the link, there's lots of products on there to glean my interest!  These are not pure silver though, are they?  It was the very qualities of the pure silver cable I posted that interested me.

Oops. Sorry about missing the pure silver bit. I'm not a true believer in that respect. Just thought I could save you a few dollars.
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I do have a Forza Audio works cable and interconnect and it replaced the ridiculously long high quality cable supplied by Denon. So it was for convenience rather than a perceived difference in audio quality.
 

 
If any cable is crying out for an upgrade though it is the Viso HP50's.
 
Cheers.
 

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