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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post
 

Well I decided I would just go the hardwire route, so out of frustration I just clamped the thing down and took a dremel along the seams to try and cut it open.

 

It was really soft; I didn't know the plastic would met like that. It... it wasn't pretty.

 

gruesome pictures (Click to show)
Nah, just kidding. :tongue:

My heart stopped for a second, poor little HP50 !

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Originally Posted by lehmanhill View Post
 


I hear you brother.  It is a shame that companies don't consider those of us with exceptional head size.  Don't they realize the advantages of having us as customers?

 

Seriously, the internet has given us more selection, but doesn't help us find a good fit.  I wish I could find a store nearby where I could try a range of headphones for fit, but those rare at best.  In the meantime, the postage on returning product that doesn't fit is getting expensive.

 

I don't even have a large head and I've found headband design to be one of the biggest failings with a lot of otherwise extremely good headphones. It's like most companies are allergic to anything more than paper thin foam padding or headbands with reasonably sized contact areas.

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Originally Posted by Taowolf51 View Post
 

 

I don't even have a large head and I've found headband design to be one of the biggest failings with a lot of otherwise extremely good headphones. It's like most companies are allergic to anything more than paper thin foam padding or headbands with reasonably sized contact areas.

 

The headband design is poor and puts a lot of pressure on a small portion of the head which makes them uncomfortable quite quickly. Hopefully, they have taken the feedback to improve the design.

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I have no issues with overall comfort when used up to 4 hours. The comfort thing is very personal. It is based on head shape and size, of course. It is also based on expectations and sensitivity to pressure. These all vary extremely widely  (if not infinitely) among users! I would think that all manufacturers do extensive testing across a sampling of people for the comfort parameters based on a given design. They then decide on the cost to implement various methods, and make a decision based on the price point they aim for as to what is practical. Sure, less is more when looking at profits, but they all surely want to put something on the market that will make the most people happy. Of course, there is no "one size fits all" solution that will make everyone happy!

 

The only thing that bothers me at all when wearing these is the "Sweat Factor". I make sure ambient temps are relatively low before wearing them for long periods.

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Originally Posted by mandrake50 View Post
 


I have no issues with overall comfort when used up to 4 hours. The comfort thing is very personal. It is based on head shape and size, of course. It is also based on expectations and sensitivity to pressure. These all vary extremely widely  (if not infinitely) among users! I would think that all manufacturers do extensive testing across a sampling of people for the comfort parameters based on a given design. They then decide on the cost to implement various methods, and make a decision based on the price point they aim for as to what is practical. Sure, less is more when looking at profits, but they all surely want to put something on the market that will make the most people happy. Of course, there is no "one size fits all" solution that will make everyone happy!

 

The only thing that bothers me at all when wearing these is the "Sweat Factor". I make sure ambient temps are relatively low before wearing them for long periods.


Parrot Zik hugs the entire head yet these are a balancing act on the crown. They need a tiny revision just to remove this ergonomics problem for a %-age of users.

post #1341 of 1407
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Originally Posted by mandrake50 View Post
 


I have no issues with overall comfort when used up to 4 hours. The comfort thing is very personal. It is based on head shape and size, of course. It is also based on expectations and sensitivity to pressure. These all vary extremely widely  (if not infinitely) among users! I would think that all manufacturers do extensive testing across a sampling of people for the comfort parameters based on a given design. They then decide on the cost to implement various methods, and make a decision based on the price point they aim for as to what is practical. Sure, less is more when looking at profits, but they all surely want to put something on the market that will make the most people happy. Of course, there is no "one size fits all" solution that will make everyone happy!

 

The only thing that bothers me at all when wearing these is the "Sweat Factor". I make sure ambient temps are relatively low before wearing them for long periods.


Temperature is why I sold mine. I had bought them for use on the bus, but they are just too hot! Shame, such a nice sounding headphone. My XS should arrive this week so hopefully the heat issue will be taken care of.

post #1342 of 1407
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Originally Posted by Sonic Defender View Post
 


Temperature is why I sold mine. I had bought them for use on the bus, but they are just too hot! Shame, such a nice sounding headphone. My XS should arrive this week so hopefully the heat issue will be taken care of.


You could have suede-topped the ear contact point of the earpads. I've done that on all my headphones

post #1343 of 1407

Can anuone confirm the differece in sound between the stadard cable (with remote) and with the spare cable?

 

The reason I'm asking is that was forced to use the spare cable (the main has been broken by my daughter :/ ) and the sound seem to change quite a bit - it became louder and moved to the brighter side of the spectrum.

 

So I'm curious if anyone had the same experience as I did.

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What sonic changes or improvements would I expect with the HP50, coming from RE-400?

 

The RE-400 is well-regarded among IEMS and I'm loving every bit of it. With the HP50 costing at least 2.5x that of the RE-400, I'm expecting at least a noticeable, not subtle, improvement.

 

Am I in for a disappointment?

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You could have suede-topped the ear contact point of the earpads. I've done that on all my headphones


Maybe you are more heat tolerant than I am (not sure what part of Asia you live in). The heat was too much and even if I had a different contact material I would still think the heat would not change unless I am missing something. Anyway, my NADs are now being very well appreciated by their new owner who got a great deal as I also purchased some 10' replacement cables for the stupidly short excuses NAD sends with the HP 50. I mean NAD, WTH?

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Originally Posted by Sonic Defender View Post
 


Maybe you are more heat tolerant than I am (not sure what part of Asia you live in). The heat was too much and even if I had a different contact material I would still think the heat would not change unless I am missing something. Anyway, my NADs are now being very well appreciated by their new owner who got a great deal as I also purchased some 10' replacement cables for the stupidly short excuses NAD sends with the HP 50. I mean NAD, WTH?


No, I think suede rocks for the humidity here...anything else just beads to sweat in 5 minutes....also not too sure they are using real leather on the HP-50's so pleather will not be same even as leather...just grab a square of suede off of ebay, and find an alteration tailor or leather-smith. It is the first mod I do on new cans...hybrid pad.


Edited by Lohb - 8/11/14 at 4:30pm
post #1347 of 1407

The frequency response graph on HP50 looks very much like my favorite GR07BE, that's why I'm very curious about the sound of HP50.

Can someone compare them to Fidelio L2. Most comments are that L2 is slightly better, but I wonder what you guys think if heard them both.

Thanks

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I'm not sure if this has been covered in the thread somewhere. I have a pair of HP50s and the cable with the Apple control only produces sound out of one ear. The other cable works just fine and it's what I have been using all this time. Is the cable defective or do I really have to jam it in there? I've tried a few times and it seems like it is secure. 

post #1349 of 1407
Sounds like a defective cable, both cables plug in the same way, so unless they feel different when inserting them contact your seller and let them know.
post #1350 of 1407
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Originally Posted by Yobster69 View Post

Sounds like a defective cable, both cables plug in the same way, so unless they feel different when inserting them contact your seller and let them know.

Thanks that's what I figured. Strangely, it always produces sound out of only the right cup, regardless of which ear the cable is plugged into. 

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