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post #31 of 78
The Woo Audio tube amps look great, if they sound half as good as they look ill be very happy lol.
post #32 of 78
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The Woo Audio tube amps look great, if they sound half as good as they look ill be very happy lol.

Yes they are bro , I had listened to the BCL and the wa2 (Flat) and somehow the veil was not a concern , I am getting a wa2 next year or if you really want the best synergy then the BCL is hard to beat I really don't prefer the sound of the conductor :D

post #33 of 78
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A good tube amp should sound like a good ss amp if they are not driven to distortion. Once distortion becomes a factor then, simply put, the ss sound harsh and tubes sound... musical. Up to a point of course where everything becomes crap.

There are many websites / articles on tube vs. ss on the net to google.


That said, tube amps are pretty darn sexy and everyone should have one. In your price range, check out the Woo Audio 3 and 6. I like their design and would choose the black design option over the silver.

Not to mention that the Woo's itself are dark in nature but a lot of people prefer that colored yet detailed sound signature.

 

 

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Originally Posted by foreign View Post

Just curious what tube amps would you recommend for say $500ish. I've always wanted to hear the sound they produce and am happy to experiment. Got the hd650 coming any day now would like to see how it will sound paired with a tube amp.

You may or may not , auditioning is the best thing you can do , coming out with equipment worth thousands of dollars and not liking the sound ain't fun :P

post #34 of 78
Unfortunately I live in a small country town and auditioning audio equipment is pretty much non existent. The one store here with any audio equipment has only one set of beats to listen too lol. (Not commenting but you get the gist :-)there idea of high end set of cans are logitec. So I'm normally buying the equipment without being able to hear them first, luckily haven't had really many bad purchases.
Edited by foreign - 7/7/13 at 7:56pm
post #35 of 78
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Unfortunately I live in a small country town and auditioning audio equipment is pretty much non existent. The one store here with any audio equipment has only one set of beats to listen too lol. (Not commenting but you get the gist :-)there idea of high end set of cans are logitec. So I'm normally buying the equipment without being able to hear them first, luckily haven't had really many bad purchases.

No problem man , enjoy your 650 , in India I am facing a similar problem too :P 

post #36 of 78
Ok I have a bit of a dilemma has anyone tried woo audio m6 vs little dot vi tube amps ? I'm wanting to buy a tube amp for my hd650 while using the dac of the asus sonar stx. The hd650 does sound good on the stx its just i took the hd650 to a friends place and paired it with his tube amp and what can I say whooa. I was blown away and even though I'm just beginning my music journey I feel if I don't buy a tube amp. My ears will be missing out :-). I don't want to pay thousands of dollars like my friend but a good $600 ish should get me started. So if anyone has tried the tube amps in question I would be greatful if you could steer me in the right direction. Thankyou
post #37 of 78
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 i took the hd650 to a friends place and paired it with his tube amp and what can I say whooa.

I  wish there was a better description of the difference you experienced . Also, don't underestimate the power of expectation bias, since you said the other rig cost multiple thousand of dollar.

post #38 of 78
Yes the rig is for sound recording and it is about 6k worth of hardware versus a $165 soundcard(so it really isnt a fair comparison). The bass was very punchy without being overpowered. Nice balance mids were upfront and centre. The soundstage was huge with a nice sense of airiness. Positional accuracy and detail was phenomenal. The stx is a very good card and it suits my needs and does a great job. Im just considering a tube amp to enhance this experience. I would recommend the stx to anybody it over exceeded my expectations as I previously had lower end soundcards. The functionality and bang per buck will match and even beat a lot of $400 alternatives.
post #39 of 78
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Yes the rig is for sound recording and it is about 6k worth of hardware versus a $165 soundcard(so it really isnt a fair comparison).

An honest comparison imply that you forget the price difference. Unfortunately this is hard for most of us.

post #40 of 78
In my opinion the stx does a better job versus the creative alternatives. During gaming for example I can pinpoint directions and hear sounds before other people can?? I still can't work out why but if I am playing a competition and an enemy is coming from behind I can hear them a few seconds before my team mates can. I was the only one who bought the stx and my friends went creative z. Whether this is due to Sennheiser versus akg set of cans I don't know. I am very happy with the stx and not only can I hear footsteps quicker but I can work out the exact position the enemy is coming from. Whether they are going up or down stairs or coming from a particular doorway.
post #41 of 78
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In my opinion the stx does a better job versus the creative alternatives. During gaming for example I can pinpoint directions and hear sounds before other people can?? I still can't work out why but if I am playing a competition and an enemy is coming from behind I can hear them a few seconds before my team mates can. I was the only one who bought the stx and my friends went creative z. Whether this is due to Sennheiser versus akg set of cans I don't know.


It's the headphone that makes the biggest difference.

post #42 of 78
Yeah I thought it might be the case but if a friend brings along his set of cans and plugs them into my pc they get the same result as me? So it does have me scratching my head. But if it works ill just go with it and be happy with the end result.
post #43 of 78

Do you like the signature ?

Don't worry if you don't , forcing to like something is not fun :(

I will be honest with you the synergy with the STX is not all that fantastic , if you don't like it and you are sure that you are forcing yourself , try it with other Amps and compare headphones if you can , as ev13wt and many other say that 650 is not the best option for being your first HiFi set of cans - for me I love it :) - There are other options like the 400's and 500's.There also is a lot of back on forth on the Facebook page about the showdown "650 vs 400's" I find that comparison to be ridiculous , I would recommend you to try cans yourself and be away from those Headphone Elitist's - they suck.

The 500's are fantastic headphones for the money , for sure next on my list after the LCD 2's.

The day is gone when people used to appreciate signature's on Head-fi now it is filled with Elitist's.

Also now people really don't care about the 650's that much its appreciation is long lost :( , my best recommendation would be to be away from the 650 forums and enjoy the music you have till its time to get a new headphone :D

 

FYI - I own the 650's and have tried the 500's with the wa6.


Edited by MrTechAgent - 7/12/13 at 5:27am
post #44 of 78
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There are other options like the 400's and 500's

You mean the hifiman he-400 & he-500 I guess. Or something like hd598 ?

 

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Also now people really don't care about the 650's that much its appreciation is long lost :(

Well, the hd650 is an old classic. But it's expensive,  and other options appeared in the market.

Especially if you are not happy with the recessed treble of hd650, there's either the hd800, or much cheaper alternatives from other brands biggrin.gif.

 

Personally I run the hd800 from the xonar stx, and I don't care if it's not the "best" synergy.

So I can only laugh when someone says that the xonar stx is enough good for the hd650.

Especially the usual complain for the xonar stx is that it sounds "bright",

and that the hd650 sound "dark", I can only imagine, that on contrary there's  a kind of  "synnergy".

Unless you'd like to bring out some artificial lushness & euphony with tubes.

post #45 of 78
Just bought the little dot mk3 I am very impressed the hd650 sounds fantastic. The bass is very punchy soundstage is huge and I still have to burn the tubes in properly. The Stx amp and dac were a little boring without the external amp. Now I know why the hd650 and tube amps are well regarded in head hifi. :-)
Edited by foreign - 7/13/13 at 4:59pm
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