**okay, you've all been super helpful. My spouse agrees about getting a separate good pair for home. That said, she doesn't want me blowing a ton on a first pair.**
The main issue with handling the phones roughly is actually stuffing them in my back and pulling them out. If they were the type where the cans swivel so it's flat, I would be able to neatly stow them away, with plenty of room and cushioning, and I wouldn't struggle to remove them. I would also have a nice bag to store them in at home. I think it was the stuffing in and pulling out of the senns that broke them.
Sound leak won't necessarily ruin the nuances of a good ambient track. Remember, I really like the open soundstage feel. The thing about ambient I like is that it feels more natural when it's slightly more open. I don't care too much about annoying other people; They also generally don't care about who can hear their asinine conversations.
It's going to be a while before I can buy a second pair, which is one reason I was shooting for an 'all-around' pair. Even a semi-closed is a nice compromise. I am without working phones right now and it's making my life really weird. Although It's nice to hear the pitter-patter of my dog's feet in snow. So, assuming I'm looking at only 1 pair for now, and assuming further that later on I will buy nicer phones exclusively for home use, I am hoping for a middle ground that's not too pricey because these will not be stored in one spot, something not terribly bulky
so, if I wanted something inexpensive as an outside phone, but still sounding good enough for home use until I spend the time picking out a really nice pair, and open back isn't that bad because it makes walking my dog safer for me and my dog..... NOW are the Grados a fit? In terms of sound quality, is the 225i significantly better than the 80i? It appears the 125i is not that special?
By the way, The grados don't look uncomfortable to me. I have long hair. I'm a leo, and I look like one. It's like a bloody cushion. I like the 'minimalist' design, they look like they are not bulky and would be easy to tuck away. This is why I'm so interested in the grados. Also, I have to admit it, I really love the fact that they look like they came out of a 1960's basement.
and finally, I really only listen to music on my ipod, iphone and macbook pro. This is a factor I should consider, as not all phones are ideal for these devices. Another reason the grados appeal to me. And as far as Grados being tight? Well, I've always found myself futzing with the senns because they never feel right. Maybe a tight phone is what I need?
Edited by darwinvsjesus - 1/17/13 at 10:27pm