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post #16 of 47
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Originally Posted by jrwong28 View Post

None of them is good all rubbish 215 cable is junk the bass is junk too Yamaha EPH-100 beats them easily


+1 for EPH-100, but that's $150...$50 over price cap of SE215

post #17 of 47
Thread Starter 

But se215 much more expensive, so even if we assume se215 and g06\gr02 more or less the same,se215 still not lucrative.

 

I do not understand how you can compare headphones worth $ 100 headphones worth $ 40\60$ (gr06\gr02).

if  the headphones worth 40$\60$ (like the gr06\gr02) They are about the same as headphones worth 100$(like the se215) ,So the se215 is Not recommended at all,And most poor.

 

I hope you understand what I wrote.


Edited by nati8056 - 1/21/13 at 9:18am
post #18 of 47
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Originally Posted by nati8056 View Post

But se215 much more expensive, so even if we assume se215 and g06\gr02 more or less the same,se215 still not lucrative.

 

I do not understand how you can compare headphones worth $ 100 headphones worth $ 40\60$ (gr06\gr02).

if  the headphones worth 40$\60$ (like the gr06\gr02) They are about the same as headphones worth 100$(like the se215) ,So the se215 is Not recommended at all,And most poor.

 

I hope you understand what I wrote.

I'm not arguing for value at all. If it came down to value, then I must say that the both the GR06 and GR02 are much better than the SE215 in these terms. I found the SE215 better than the GR02 (still not the same exact signature, with the GR02 slightly v-shaped and the SE215 mid-focused), but not nearly enough to justify the price gap. I'd get the GR02 rather than the SE215 if it came down to value. Then we meet the GR06, which I found better than the SE215, and lo and behold, it is significantly cheaper than the SE215, and therefore the GR06 is of much greater value. I am simply justifying why some are arguing that the SE215 is the better option; it still has a great competency that some could argue is better than the GR06. However, if it comes down to price/performance, I will firmly maintain that the GR06 and GR02 are better than the SE215. My verdict (understanding that you also want the best value earphone): go with the GR06.

post #19 of 47
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Originally Posted by eastPride View Post


I highly doubt that the Limited Edition version will be going anywhere soon. I do hope that they update the SE215 and improve the highs frequency response, but the new SE215LTD claims to have an improved low response, so hopefully it's tightened and less hollow sounding than how it originally was. I have not tried the new LTD however. GR07 is not mid-forward, however. It's sort of a different beast, but you can still compare them. GR07 is very well balanced and has better extension both ways (I have a feeling that low extension will still be better than the LTD). It does not texturize (invented a new word there) the vocals as immensely as the SE215, but it has better clarity. But I would like to hear about some differences between the old SE215 and the new LTD so I can either make my comment definitive, or retract it. I'd say go for the 07.
Thanks for your advice man!
post #20 of 47

I have both SE215 and GR06 and I love them both. I feel they kind of have a similar sound signature, although SE215 has more bass quantity both in punch and body, while GR06 has more crisp in its treble, SE215 has smoother mid, but GR06's mid is not bad either. Sound stage is about the same for both. As far as physical aspect, SE215 has thicker cable, memory wire near the earpiece which can make putting it in a little bit harder, while GR06 is easier to put in. Both are comparable in-term of comfort. 

If I have to choose between SE215 and GR06, I will choose SE215. I don't know how to explain it, but with SE215, my ear doesn't need to adjust to the sound even after using other IEM or headphone, but when I use GR06, my ear has to adjust to the sound much longer. I think it is because of the mid sound a little bit wonky on GR06 while the mid in SE215 has more body and full.

post #21 of 47
I already said both are JUNK Bass for 215 is very over bloated i brought.both 215 and special 215 at the same time because is on promotion i used it's over 2 weeek and i give it's to my colleagues and my colleagues oso can't stand the rubbish bass and passed it's back to me in just 5 days and of course i sold it's at half price to a fool who don't understand what is good bass what a rubbish product shure have here -.-. i will never buy any rubbish product from shure again only peoples DON'T know what is good bass will said 215 is very good believe me 215 had the most rubbish bass among all earphones brand. If you want good bassearphones check up audio technica cks90 cks1000 theirs new soild bass earphones beats them 100000 times compare to the rubbish 215 you might not believe what i said here some rubbish pictures for 215 This Guy Cks1000 Beats My Rubbish 21 1000 Times Away
Edited by jrwong28 - 1/22/13 at 3:08am
post #22 of 47
Thread Starter 

What about scl3?, I found them at the same price as se215.so what is better sound?

 

and Where should I buy the gr07?, I think I might buy them because I saw that people here are satisfied,(But maybe, I'm still not sure).


Edited by nati8056 - 1/22/13 at 9:26am
post #23 of 47
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Originally Posted by nati8056 View Post

What about scl3?, I found them at the same price as se215.so what is better sound?

and Where should I buy the gr07?, I think I might buy them because I saw that people here are satisfied,(But maybe, I'm still not sure).

Buy on lendmeurears.com it's authorized seller and is trusted widely. If you want VSonics that is
post #24 of 47
Thread Starter 

What about scl3?,is better sound than se215?

post #25 of 47
The audio technica cks1000 cost around $220. $100 more than se215. Of course it has to have better bass than the shure. For that price, you can get gr07. Irrelevant comparison imho.
post #26 of 47
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Originally Posted by jrwong28 View Post

I already said both are JUNK Bass for 215 is very over bloated i brought.both 215 and special 215 at the same time because is on promotion i used it's over 2 weeek and i give it's to my colleagues and my colleagues oso can't stand the rubbish bass and passed it's back to me in just 5 days and of course i sold it's at half price to a fool who don't understand what is good bass what a rubbish product shure have here -.-. i will never buy any rubbish product from shure again only peoples DON'T know what is good bass will said 215 is very good believe me 215 had the most rubbish bass among all earphones brand. If you want good bassearphones check up audio technica cks90 cks1000 theirs new soild bass earphones beats them 100000 times compare to the rubbish 215 you might not believe what i said here some rubbish pictures for 215 This Guy Cks1000 Beats My Rubbish 21 1000 Times Away

 

Thanks for the tip. So, basically, the SE215LTD has little improvement in the lower end over the original SE215?

Anyway, OP was originally looking at SE215 vs GR06, so I think we can assume that the main priority is the midrange, correct? I don't think we need the low end to be the focus of the signature, unless I'm wrong....

 

 

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Originally Posted by voicemaster View Post

The audio technica cks1000 cost around $220. $100 more than se215. Of course it has to have better bass than the shure. For that price, you can get gr07. Irrelevant comparison imho.

 

Good point wink.gif

 

 

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Originally Posted by nati8056 View Post

What about scl3?,is better sound than se215?

 

TBH, I've never tried the SCL3, but I wouldn't advise going for it. They're a discontinued model, so the chance that you would be able to have the safety of warranty is slim to none. Only thing I've heard about the SCL3 is that it's mid-centric, like the SE215. I would assume that the SE215 is an improvement over the SCL3, but take my advice on SCL3 vs SE215 with a grain of salt.

post #27 of 47
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Originally Posted by eastPride View Post

Thanks for the tip. So, basically, the SE215LTD has little improvement in the lower end over the original SE215?
Anyway, OP was originally looking at SE215 vs GR06, so I think we can assume that the main priority is the midrange, correct? I don't think we need the low end to be the focus of the signature, unless I'm wrong....



Good point wink.gif



TBH, I've never tried the SCL3, but I wouldn't advise going for it. They're a discontinued model, so the chance that you would be able to have the safety of warranty is slim to none. Only thing I've heard about the SCL3 is that it's mid-centric, like the SE215. I would assume that the SE215 is an improvement over the SCL3, but take my advice on SCL3 vs SE215 with a grain of salt.
LOL... Do you Guy's do some research on price? i live in singapore price for Se215 is 185 Cks1000 245 is only 60SGD covert to Euro is 30-40EUR more and u get better bass from 1000 compare to the rubbish 215 believe me 215 bass is very over bloated it's cover all the vocal with bass do u listen to bass only? u like no vocal? a good bass earphones will never cover the singer VOCAL shure 215 101% Epic Failed
post #28 of 47
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Originally Posted by jrwong28 View Post


LOL... Do you Guy's do some research on price? i live in singapore price for Se215 is 185 Cks1000 245 is only 60SGD covert to Euro is 30-40EUR more and u get better bass from 1000 compare to the rubbish 215 believe me 215 bass is very over bloated it's cover all the vocal with bass do u listen to bass only? u like no vocal? a good bass earphones will never cover the singer VOCAL shure 215 101% Epic Failed


...I am having difficulty understanding what point you're trying to make. First point: SE215 is $100USD for sure almost everywhere (LTD is an extra $20). Assuming that the CKS1000 is in fact $245SGD (approx. $200USD), the difference in price is $100. So, is it really worth it to pay double the price for an earphone that is perhaps not optimal for OP (that is, assuming that CKS1000 is bass-focused like its brethren in the "solid bass" lineup)? I'm guessing that because OP was looking at GR06 and SE215, he wants the mids to be the focus of the signature, which SE215 can definitely be. I'm not saying to get the SE215, but it does have a forward midrange as well as a powerful low end. But not overdone compared to bass-heavy earphones. And I'd hate to completely disagree (really I do), but the SE215 does not let the bass bleed into the midrange and definitely doesn't let the lows overpower the mids. It's more balanced with the mids. Now, perhaps the CKS1000 is so impressive that it beats the SE215 "100000 (or 1000) times away." I can't judge that as I honestly have never tried the CKS1000 (I have tried other solid bass models in the lineup, and I found the low end too heavy for my tastes), but I will maintain that the SE215 is a very decent IEM. Not the one I would recommend foremost, but it has an enjoyable midrange and vocals, a large but mostly balanced (not what I would call "bloated") low end, and is fine for someone who likes a nice mid-focused earphone (really, the only gripe I have with the SE215 is the detachable cable and the rolled off highs). But I recommend the VSonic GR07 wink.gif

 

My proof that the SE215 is in fact $100USD - http://www.amazon.com/Shure-SE215-CL-Sound-Isolating-Earphones/dp/B004PO10E2/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1358909888&sr=1-2&keywords=se215

post #29 of 47
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Originally Posted by eastPride View Post


...I am having difficulty understanding what point you're trying to make. First point: SE215 is $100USD for sure almost everywhere (LTD is an extra $20). Assuming that the CKS1000 is in fact $245SGD (approx. $200USD), the difference in price is $100. So, is it really worth it to pay double the price for an earphone that is perhaps not optimal for OP (that is, assuming that CKS1000 is bass-focused like its brethren in the "solid bass" lineup)? I'm guessing that because OP was looking at GR06 and SE215, he wants the mids to be the focus of the signature, which SE215 can definitely be. I'm not saying to get the SE215, but it does have a forward midrange as well as a powerful low end. But not overdone compared to bass-heavy earphones. And I'd hate to completely disagree (really I do), but the SE215 does not let the bass bleed into the midrange and definitely doesn't let the lows overpower the mids. It's more balanced with the mids. Now, perhaps the CKS1000 is so impressive that it beats the SE215 "100000 (or 1000) times away." I can't judge that as I honestly have never tried the CKS1000 (I have tried other solid bass models in the lineup, and I found the low end too heavy for my tastes), but I will maintain that the SE215 is a very decent IEM. Not the one I would recommend foremost, but it has an enjoyable midrange and vocals, a large but mostly balanced (not what I would call "bloated") low end, and is fine for someone who likes a nice mid-focused earphone (really, the only gripe I have with the SE215 is the detachable cable and the rolled off highs). But I recommend the VSonic GR07 wink.gif

My proof that the SE215 is in fact $100USD - http://www.amazon.com/Shure-SE215-CL-Sound-Isolating-Earphones/dp/B004PO10E2/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1358909888&sr=1-2&keywords=se215
sorry for the poor english 215 is selling at 185SGD and CKS 245SGD is only 60SGD More. The Bass For Cks1000 is deep and wide it's never cover the Singer Vocal this is a very important point 215 bass is very over bloated and heavy it's cover over the singer vocal the bass is in front vocal at the very far end trust me
post #30 of 47
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Originally Posted by jrwong28 View Post


sorry for the poor english 215 is selling at 185SGD and CKS 245SGD is only 60SGD More. The Bass For Cks1000 is deep and wide it's never cover the Singer Vocal this is a very important point 215 bass is very over bloated and heavy it's cover over the singer vocal the bass is in front vocal at the very far end trust me


I had no trouble navigating in what you wrote; it was understandable. I'm wondering...are you trying to recommend the CKS1000, or are you trying to put out the SE215? Is the SE215 bass quantity actually greater than that of the Solid Bass series CKS1000? And if so, what kind of signature does the CKS1000 have? I did not detect obvious bass bleed in my SE215, so is the CKS1000 just that controlled, tight, and clean? That would be unexpected, especially considering other Solid Bass models having a relatively boomy low end. And I'm certain that the SE215 sells for $100USD. Almost everywhere. Even if you do live in Singapore, you could easily find it for $100USD (approximately $122SGD) somewhere, even if it's internationally shipped. Hence, the true difference in price can be approximated to be $100USD. Back to the sound, I'd really hate to sound like a broken record, but the SE215 is really a good earphone, albeit not the best in its class, and I do not find the bass overpowering the mids, but maybe the CKS1000 is consequentially even more amazing than I could predict (I hope to try them out soon, especially after hearing this). But, in reality, I'm not even recommending the SE215 to OP. Let's end this petty debate on the SE215 vs CKS1000 and get back to the real question (I am, however, largely at fault as well for this off-topic argument as I did somewhat instigate your response, and for that I apologize). I have changed my recommendation (slightly).

 

To OP: If you plan to not use an amp, I recommend, yet again, the GR06 (for under $100) and the GR07 (if you are willing to stretch your budget...a lot). If you have a portable amp, check out the RE262. They are one of my favorite earphones under $150, and perform exceptionally well.

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