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post #46 of 258

There are pages and pages of appreciation threads, some of which are products that retailed at a similar if not identical price point.  I know this product outperforms some of those that have one.  I think for a first outing for a long time in the headphone market, Onkyo's done amazingly well.  You said yourself these might be able to compete alongside the Momentum, which is very well received.  I personally am (obviously) quite pleased with the product myself.

post #47 of 258
I really like the sound of them and the look too. Great tonality across a wide range of musical instruments. However I think they have a fatal design flaw: where the cables attach to the cups. I've had to return two pairs because of a bad connection that developed within a week each time. The problem I thin is that the connections are so low and lack strain reliefs so if you turn your head to look over your shoulder that puts pressure on the connection. Also plugging and unplugging those connections requires a good deal of force that can't be good for the connection. If they got that sorted out, they'd be a steal at 150.
post #48 of 258
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Originally Posted by Stuff Jones View Post

I really like the sound of them and the look too. Great tonality across a wide range of musical instruments. However I think they have a fatal design flaw: where the cables attach to the cups. I've had to return two pairs because of a bad connection that developed within a week each time. The problem I thin is that the connections are so low and lack strain reliefs so if you turn your head to look over your shoulder that puts pressure on the connection. Also plugging and unplugging those connections requires a good deal of force that can't be good for the connection. If they got that sorted out, they'd be a steal at 150.

 

The connector worries me as well.  I think its the same connector type that Shure uses, so if that's the case there should be an ample supply of aftermarket cables available already.  If so, can anyone with more experience suggest an inexpensive but reasonable replacement?

post #49 of 258
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The connector worries me as well.  I think its the same connector type that Shure uses, so if that's the case there should be an ample supply of aftermarket cables available already.  If so, can anyone with more experience suggest an inexpensive but reasonable replacement?

 

My suspicion is that its not the cable itself thats a problem but where it connects to on the cups. I think its that female end that gets damaged easily. Just a really bad design oversight to have them so exposed.

post #50 of 258

Yes, but a better designed cable might be able to help relieve strain too.  At least I'd assume so.

post #51 of 258
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Yes, but a better designed cable might be able to help relieve strain too.  At least I'd assume so.

 

Good point.

post #52 of 258
Takes more than great SQ for an appreciation thread.

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Originally Posted by Saoshyant View Post

There are pages and pages of appreciation threads, some of which are products that retailed at a similar if not identical price point.  I know this product outperforms some of those that have one.  I think for a first outing for a long time in the headphone market, Onkyo's done amazingly well.  You said yourself these might be able to compete alongside the Momentum, which is very well received.  I personally am (obviously) quite pleased with the product myself.
post #53 of 258
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Takes more than great SQ for an appreciation thread.

 

Skullcandy Aviators have an appreciation thread :p

 

Now I'll admit for SKs the Aviators are actually pretty nice, but not on the same level as the FC300


Edited by Saoshyant - 3/5/14 at 3:30pm
post #54 of 258

I tried 4 headphones (these, thinksound on1s, soundmagic HP100s, and AKG l545s) on my latest quest for a new pair and these had the best SQ/dollar ratio. They also are extremely versatile across a wide range of styles with a rare combination of enough bass for popular music but enough control to not ruin other music; a warm, full midrange, and non-recessed highs. Too bad about the connection issue.


Edited by Stuff Jones - 3/5/14 at 4:06pm
post #55 of 258
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Originally Posted by Stuff Jones View Post
 

I tried 4 headphones (these, thinksound on1s, soundmagic HP100s, and AKG l545s) on my latest quest for a new pair and these had the best SQ/dollar ratio. They also are extremely versatile across a wide range of styles with a rare combination of enough bass for popular music but enough control to not ruin other music; a warm, full midrange, and non-recessed highs. Too bad about the connection issue.

 

What differences did you find between these, the K545s, and the HP100s? 


Edited by Change is Good - 3/11/14 at 1:08am
post #56 of 258
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What differences did you find between these, the K545s, and the HP100s? 

 

I think the Onkyos have the best tonality of the three and the most forward, exciting sound. The other two have better sound stage and separation. I like the K545s more than the HP100s, which except for the highs sounded kind of vailed and dull to me. 

post #57 of 258
Anybody else having issues with the jack staying on securely to the player? That might become an issue.

Just got these today and am really enjoying the sound signature. The bass, as others have mentioned, is really well extended...really goes down deep. I think the cavernous cups really help this area.

Btw, read the comments above about how its hard, maybe even detrimental to remove the mmcx connectors. The manual specifically states not to keep removing/attaching those. They will loosen and degrade with constant play.
post #58 of 258
Oh well that sucks. That may be why some people (including me) have the left channel sometimes go out.
post #59 of 258
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Just got these today and am really enjoying the sound signature. The bass, as others have mentioned, is really well extended...really goes down deep. I think the cavernous cups really help this area.

 

How do these square against your M-100s, deltasun?

post #60 of 258
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How do these square against your M-100s, deltasun?

The one I bought is actually defective and so in the process of getting exchanged.

But, from what I can gather without doing an A/B...as mentioned, the HF300s definitely has better extension. The M100 has tighter bass though and better impact. I feel the HF300s' impact is a bit more boomy, but not too negatively. Mids will easily go to the Onkyos as well and treble is harder to pin down (need A/B on this one to know for sure).

I do think the HF300s treble is smooth but present. I was listening to stellastarr's On My Own and noticed the gentle cymbals during the second verse. At the time, I was A/B'ing with my on1 and while there on the on1's, it didn't catch my attention like it did with the HF300s.

I should have my replacement by Tuesday and can further compare. Oh, one other thing is that these are on-ears (vs. the M100s w/ XL pads being arounds) and the wide pad circumference just rests at the outer edges of my somewhat biggish ears. This really creates a wide and deep "soundstage" on my ears that makes the experience (tonality, etc.) a bit different for those two.
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