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post #106 of 212
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The MLs stay in place for me, even with movement. I have them slightly forward on my ear with the headband forward. The FC300s move more for me, but no complaints. The V-Moda M80s, I have tons of problems with staying put with movement. I have a tall thin head.
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Nooooo! Don't do that to me.
post #107 of 212
The silver ones can be a bit stuff at times but not too concerned they will break at the moment.
post #108 of 212
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Originally Posted by H T T View Post

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The MLs stay in place for me, even with movement. I have them slightly forward on my ear with the headband forward. The FC300s move more for me, but no complaints. The V-Moda M80s, I have tons of problems with staying put with movement. I have a tall thin head.
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Nooooo! Don't do that to me.

My experience is identical.
post #109 of 212

I find the ML's issue with me is the clamp.  At times I can find a comfortable spot to listen, other times its just I have to give up for the sake of any comfort.  FC300s win out by miles compared to the ML in that respect.  I'm not a huge fan of the ML cable, but at least it doesn't use the connectors the FC300 uses, which I think are MMCX, but I haven't looked into it.  I don't dislike it b/c its not a standard plug in like other headphones use, I just dislike it because its certainly the only part of the headphone I worry about reliability.  I initially tried Onkyo's IEMs first, which use the same connection.  The first one had the left channel go out consistently unless I did a near perfect imitation of a statue.  The second one did the same for the right channel.  There was no third one in the store to try, so a refund was given and it was a few months before I was willing to try the FC300.  I am quite grateful there doesn't seem to be this issue.

 

On a different note, I also enjoy Onkyo's bluetooth headphone, but it most certainly has a different sound sig, as well as not much in the way of clamp.  This is only really a problem because its advertised as an active headphone, and at least for me, does not like to stay in place with any real movement on my part.  Walking is about the most active I can be and have it stay.

post #110 of 212
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I find the ML's issue with me is the clamp.  At times I can find a comfortable spot to listen, other times its just I have to give up for the sake of any comfort.  FC300s win out by miles compared to the ML in that respect.  I'm not a huge fan of the ML cable, but at least it doesn't use the connectors the FC300 uses, which I think are MMCX, but I haven't looked into it.  I don't dislike it b/c its not a standard plug in like other headphones use, I just dislike it because its certainly the only part of the headphone I worry about reliability.  I initially tried Onkyo's IEMs first, which use the same connection.  The first one had the left channel go out consistently unless I did a near perfect imitation of a statue.  The second one did the same for the right channel.  There was no third one in the store to try, so a refund was given and it was a few months before I was willing to try the FC300.  I am quite grateful there doesn't seem to be this issue.

 

On a different note, I also enjoy Onkyo's bluetooth headphone, but it most certainly has a different sound sig, as well as not much in the way of clamp.  This is only really a problem because its advertised as an active headphone, and at least for me, does not like to stay in place with any real movement on my part.  Walking is about the most active I can be and have it stay.

I hate it for both reasons. It's a flimsy connector that would make sense on IEMs. Headphones - on-ear or otherwise - are a different story. The cynic in me says it's an attempt to upsell Onkyo's cables (which are ludicrously priced IMO), although Shure has much cheaper MMCX options available, so no worries.

 

Onkyo, if any of your employees are reading this, please fix this. The MMCX connectors are terribad.

post #111 of 212

There are still cheaper cable options for this connector type than the Hifiman connector type, at least.  With that one, I've seen prices range from 50-500.  I have yet to really look into replacement cables for MMCX, so I'm sure there are some really expensive options out there as well.

post #112 of 212

I had a second good audition today. So far around 20 mins of total listening time. Boy the bass of these are really awesome. Reaches really deep, with great texture. Mids were really clean. Only gripe was the high frequencies. It's probably just me, but I love my highs well extended compared to smooth. All round excellent headphones.

I'm in a little dilemma right now. Have these and the IE-FC300s waiting in Oregon, Portland in my forwarding service with a couple of weeks of free storage before I gotta ship em'. Initially I wanted to sell them off straight cos I needed the cash, but boy after today's longer audition I'm so freaking tempted to just keep them.

Does anyone here own Takstar Pro 80/ JVC HA-S680/ Mikros 90 and the Onkyos? Please quickly share your comparisons. If comparisons are favorable, I will take them off the classifieds. Otherwise I'll just have to sell them, which is a crying shame since I thought I secured a great steal on Amazon :(. $90 for these is just unreal.

Sometime I just wished I had a bottomless wallet. Then no one can say they're sorry for me hahaha

post #113 of 212
I personally will always take the onkyo over the M90 due to comfort. The fit on it is quite painful mist of the time, and the seal on your ears is very important to get good sound, which limits your options as far as moving if around for less discomfort. I've pretty much given up on the M90 for now, and will try it again later.
post #114 of 212

i traded in my es-fc300 for m50s.  although i liked the sound and style, the first day i wore them for over 4 hours they hurt my ears.  the ath-m50s dont.  the pads seem comfy enough, but the onkyo cup was too shallow for me.  the m50 cup is deeper and my ears dont "touch bottom".

post #115 of 212
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Does anyone here own Takstar Pro 80/ JVC HA-S680/ Mikros 90 and the Onkyos? Please quickly share your comparisons. If comparisons are favorable, I will take them off the classifieds. Otherwise I'll just have to sell them, which is a crying shame since I thought I secured a great steal on Amazon :(. $90 for these is just unreal.

Sometime I just wished I had a bottomless wallet. Then no one can say they're sorry for me hahaha

 

Sonically, the M90 is more detailed and has superior texture across the spectrum than the Onkyo. If you listen to a good amount of classical, jazz, classic rock, and/or acoustic music than the M90 is the on-ear headphone. If you listen to EDM, hop-hop, and pop then you may be better off with the Onkyo. The Onkyo has a bit of pseudo reverb that increases its apparent soundstage. For 80s reverb-soaked music, the Onkyos are top notch. But for other music, it can be detrimental. The M90 scales well with better recordings and amping. The Onkyo does not change much. The M90 is merciless with poor recordings and will expose singer/musicians that lack talent. It rewards top notch talent. All is revealed with the M90. The Onkyos are forgiving, but IMO, they will not bring out the best, when it is there. The Onkyos give you impact in the bass frequencies. The M90s give you detail and texture. 

 

If you have a wide head, the M90 will give you more than a fair amount of clamping force. I have a narrow head, so the clamping force is quite acceptable. I get a "perfect" seal every time with very little effort. I put the ear piece slightly forward than "normal" and the band angled slightly forward. Bingo. "Perfect" seal.

 

The Onkyo and the M90 complement each other well. If you can, buy both. Wait until the Onkyos go on sale. From time to time Amazon will have them for $99 for the FC and/or the upgraded cable model for $129. The M90s for $85 is an awesome deal.

 

I cannot help you with the other two headphones.


Edited by H T T - 5/20/14 at 2:54pm
post #116 of 212
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post #117 of 212
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Originally Posted by H T T View Post

Sonically, the M90 is more detailed and has superior texture across the spectrum than the Onkyo. If you listen to a good amount of classical, jazz, classic rock, and/or acoustic music than the M90 is the on-ear headphone. If you listen to EDM, hop-hop, and pop then you may be better off with the Onkyo. The Onkyo has a bit of pseudo reverb that increases its apparent soundstage. For 80s reverb-soaked music, the Onkyos are top notch. But for other music, it can be detrimental. The M90 scales well with better recordings and amping. The Onkyo does not change much. The M90 is merciless with poor recordings and will expose singer/musicians that lack talent. It rewards top notch talent. All is revealed with the M90. The Onkyos are forgiving, but IMO, they will not bring out the best, when it is there. The Onkyos give you impact in the bass frequencies. The M90s give you detail and texture. 

If you have a wide head, the M90 will give you more than a fair amount of clamping force. I have a narrow head, so the clamping force is quite acceptable. I get a "perfect" seal every time with very little effort. I put the ear piece slightly forward than "normal" and the band angled slightly forward. Bingo. "Perfect" seal.

The Onkyo and the M90 complement each other well. If you can, buy both. Wait until the Onkyos go on sale. From time to time Amazon will have them for $99 for the FC and/or the upgraded cable model for $129. The M90s for $85 is an awesome deal.

I cannot help you with the other two headphones.

that is a stupendous impression you've written there. many thanks!

wow. it's gonna be tough to decide. I'll give some thought over it, that's for sure.

and actually, I got the Onkyos for $90, and also have a set of M90 on back order which I bought at $60. I guess I'm somewhat of a deal hunter.

anyway, saoshyant, bombjoke, HTT and trunks, thanks a bunch for your replies. appreciate it lots!
post #118 of 212
As I reported in the Deals thread the other day, the FC Violet were down to $79. I actually bit even though I have the HF ones already. I do love the sound sig of these cans and they pair really well with my X3's.

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post #119 of 212
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that is a stupendous impression you've written there. many thanks!

wow. it's gonna be tough to decide. I'll give some thought over it, that's for sure.

and actually, I got the Onkyos for $90, and also have a set of M90 on back order which I bought at $60. I guess I'm somewhat of a deal hunter.

anyway, saoshyant, bombjoke, HTT and trunks, thanks a bunch for your replies. appreciate it lots!

 

Thank you and you are welcome. You beat me on finding deals!

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As I reported in the Deals thread the other day, the FC Violet were down to $79. I actually bit even though I have the HF ones already. I do love the sound sig of these cans and they pair really well with my X3's.

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I am waiting for the white model to go on sale or the HF to go down to $129 again. My wife took my black pair. She is happy. I miss the FC. :(

post #120 of 212

The pair which I auditioned were violet if I'm not mistaken. They looked more purple than violet though, not really my kinda color.

I tell you what HTT, if I decide to let my white FCs go (which thanks to you I likely will not, ironically), I'll hit you up with a PM. They're stll sitting in a warehouse in Portland, Oregon, and if you want em' I'll give them to you at the Amazon deal price with shipping.

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