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post #841 of 1072
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Originally Posted by iemguy66 View Post
 

So i in past bought ES700 for $130 shipped. And also for $12 esw9 pleather pads. But i sold them. Why?

because they on 45% songs sounded fanstastic(better than cks1000), but 55% songs were terrible with them. mids sounded so dreadful and muddy in bright songs. And bass impact isnt so great, as others say. Even with stock pads.

Comfort - with stock pads i can use them only for hour, but with esw9 pads - over 5 hours.

So while on some tracks they were exellent, but on others they sucked. I guess that i dont like mid centric headphones at all. I rather prefer V shape, because on es700 mids was on front and too loud, but highs and lows was in background. 

For most users, ws77 for $90 or ws99 for $160 wold be much better, because of better balance of lows, mids and highs. And also bigger bass impact. I actually bought WS33X for $50 for my brother.

I agree, I like the WS77 more than my ES500, because the ES500 is too med-centric for my tastes. It sounds very good just not my preference. I'm gonna get the ATH S500 at some point, because I think they will be awesome. 

post #842 of 1072
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Originally Posted by iemguy66 View Post

So i in past bought ES700 for $130 shipped. And also for $12 esw9 pleather pads. But i sold them. Why?
because they on 45% songs sounded fanstastic(better than cks1000), but 55% songs were terrible with them. mids sounded so dreadful and muddy in bright songs. And bass impact isnt so great, as others say. Even with stock pads.
Comfort - with stock pads i can use them only for hour, but with esw9 pads - over 5 hours.
So while on some tracks they were exellent, but on others they sucked. I guess that i dont like mid centric headphones at all. I rather prefer V shape, because on es700 mids was on front and too loud, but highs and lows was in background. 
For most users, ws77 for $90 or ws99 for $160 wold be much better, because of better balance of lows, mids and highs. And also bigger bass impact. I actually bought WS33X for $50 for my brother.

I definitely agree with this.
post #843 of 1072

well V-shape sound is just not for me as i love mids. thats y these are my fav headphone and i sold my dt770pro for this lol. hate the sound of the DT770pro

post #844 of 1072
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Originally Posted by audiohurric4ne View Post
 

well V-shape sound is just not for me as i love mids. thats y these are my fav headphone and i sold my dt770pro for this lol. hate the sound of the DT770pro

Weird... I love the signature of both the ES700 and the DT770(/80)

post #845 of 1072
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Originally Posted by sacrifice13 View Post
 

I agree, I like the WS77 more than my ES500, because the ES500 is too med-centric for my tastes. It sounds very good just not my preference. I'm gonna get the ATH S500 at some point, because I think they will be awesome. 

Go for it, and let us know how good it is.

post #846 of 1072
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Originally Posted by iemguy66 View Post

I rather prefer V shape, because on es700 mids was on front and too loud, but highs and lows was in background. 
For most users, ws77 for $90 or ws99 for $160 wold be much better, because of better balance of lows, mids and highs.

Ws99 is actually a more lower mid or "chocolate" sounding can. Yet still flat and lean and large and not recessed.

I think you would much prefer the sweet & bassy sound of the esw9 better.
It has a slight v shape in upper mids creating a slightly laid back sound in comparison.
Edited by Maxx134 - 11/4/13 at 10:38pm
post #847 of 1072

I'm lucky to live in Tokyo, there are so many hi-fi shops with display cans you can just drop in and try out whenever you feel like it. Of course, Audio-Technica are very prominent here, and there's many good reasons for that. AT often has the biggest displays and sample listening stations, so I've listened to pretty much all of them, they are set up with the same music, same sources. I'm quite amazed at the quality AT are able to produce even at the lower price points. I bought a pair of A900X because they are simply great for the price, and only seemed to sacrifice a little bit compared to HPs way up the price point (e.g., W-1000x).

 

But there is a difference, and it takes a while for it to become obvious. For example, the A900X vs the W-1000x is quite analogous to the ES700 vs the ES10. There is simply a fullness and richness in the higher priced cans relative to their less expensive counterparts. In the cheaper phones there is a sort of "cardboard-ness" to the sound, I don't know how else to describe it (stiff at higher freqs, resonant in the mids, but limp on the low end). At first listen the cheaper counterparts give the impression of more expansive mids, and indeed they do sound great on some songs. But it is somewhat artifical sounding to my ears, and the mids seem to bleed a bit more across the mid-spectrum than they should. And unfortunately they usually leave me wanting something more, especially on the bass end.

 

The ES700s sell for $100 here right now in Tokyo, and there's no question that they're a fantastic HP at that price. But I had to get a pair of ES10 after hearing the differences, and fortunately I was able to find some used for $210 (stoked!). So if you can find a pair of ES10 for $300 or less, I'd say they're definitely worth it. But it not, the ES700 are a great pair of portable cans, and excellent value for the price.

post #848 of 1072
Yes the es10 are sooo superior that even now years after initial release they are still one of the top portable on ears..
post #849 of 1072
Jhern, brilliant description of the benefits of the better cans, very well said.
post #850 of 1072
Would anyone describe the ES700 as having a hi-fi sound?
post #851 of 1072
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post


Ya' mon, thanks for these ES700. beerchug.gif
What kind of music are you enjoying with the ES700? What sounds best with em. Are they exhibiting a hi-fi sound?
post #852 of 1072
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Originally Posted by Chiquita Speaks View Post

Would anyone describe the ES700 as having a hi-fi sound?


what is hi fi sound?

post #853 of 1072
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Originally Posted by kookoo View Post
 


what is hi fi sound?

I know that hi-fi means high fidelity, but I don't know exactly what he's looking for either...

post #854 of 1072
Very lively and dynamic. Like being at a live show, you hear it all around and "feel" the music presence.
post #855 of 1072

Right, loving these headphones in many ways, however I'm suffering from the vice-like clamp that they subject on the skull.

 

Where can one in the UK source ESW9 pads for these, does anyone know?

 

I'm reverting to my Sennheiser HD212Pro's for extended listening - ack! (Interestingly the cheap Sennheiser's, as well as being more comfortable, seem to have a wider wider soundstage than the ES700's, which feel quite "close").

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