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post #271 of 1039
Ok more extended listening.
Whole midrange has more attack or sharper transients adding to sense of realism but also alluding to what was said earlier of a reverb which I would instead call a sense of decay from the initial attack/ impact.
*edit*
The description I would use is this:.
Wet = a reverberant sound, something with decay. Opposite of Dry. http://www.head-fi.org/t/220770/describing-sound-a-glossary
So not "plastic, but "wet" in upper treble wich has an impressive amount of details/timbre and delicacy.
You would have to have your own senses trained & tuned like a "golden ear" to notice this, since this headphone is brighter and more forward than larger traditional cans that have more open sound stage.
I would describe these brighter and more forward than my m100, but I would *edit* NEVER, use the term "plastic y", yet we all have different ears,
So I believe there are those that hear differently.
I am just lucky I haven't herd much better lol.
I am just glad I have these 700 because regardless of the signature, this level of quality in sound is rare in this category of headphone size & price.
I would like 2 here a comparison to the 1350 if anyone has..
Edit:
I am thinking the reason for the shallow earpad is to have ear closer to the driver as the sound field is less bright and more large sounding to me when I pressed down.
I was using the "q-tip" mod for padding the stock pads wich lifts away slightly & works well for me for comfort but the sound is more authoritive when cups are pushed closer.
Edit2:
Sub bass clarity continues to impress.
Midrange is just transparent to me.

Gave up trying to hear a "plastic" lol.
To me the unnaturally pronounced smooth mids on the Monster DNA with pencil dry treble are closest to plastic sound I have herd. Yet they are very seductive in their own way.

Back to es700:
Stock pads have no good padding.
Waiting patiently for my cheapo pads,
Yet my goal is to get the esw9 pads.
Edited by Maxx134 - 2/23/13 at 2:39pm
post #272 of 1039
A comparison to the DT1350 is what I'm also looking forward to.
post #273 of 1039
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post #274 of 1039

I have put the Brainwavz HM5 pads over the ATH-WS55 pads - not bad.

The bass loses some of the punch and tightness, but soundstage and comfort improve dramatically.

Much better for live recordings.

 

HM5 pads should fit just as well over the original pads - so may be the 35-40$ expense on the WS55 pads isn't necessary.

 

I stuffed the back side of the HM5 pads with some paper towels - for a better fit and isolation.


Edited by BenF - 2/21/13 at 8:26pm
post #275 of 1039

I received the ES700 and upon first listen I can tell these sound really good from the start already! Especially when you consider the price and upon my personal comparison with more expensive woodies I have at hand here. Now I will see how this matures over the next 100 hours and if a pad swap is necessary.

post #276 of 1039
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Originally Posted by cky8 View Post

I received the ES700 and upon first listen I can tell these sound really good from the start already! Especially when you consider the price and upon my personal comparison with more expensive woodies I have at hand here. Now I will see how this matures over the next 100 hours and if a pad swap is necessary.
It only gets better and more transparent smily_headphones1.gif
I prefer them over the m100 for details and with bass setting on 2 on my fiio they match bass quantity of m100 on O2amp, but 700 much more tighter and detailed.
M100 having a lower mid to upper bass emphasis while 700 more balanced down to sub-bass.

Sound stage few rows back maybe 5th row on m100 yet similar sounding mids.
Top end treble sharper on m100. Slight dip in lower treble on m100.
700 about 25% taller and 50% wider signature, compared to the m100.
700 having a front row to almost conductor position Sound stage. More attack whole spectrum on 700.
So far the two most enjoyable cans I have owned.
Going for the AD900X next.
Edited by Maxx134 - 2/23/13 at 7:21am
post #277 of 1039
Thread Starter 

Consider yourselves lucky that you guys have truly discovered a gem among portables..I remember just how much of an uproar the M-80 was when those came out..

 

Yet the majority of headfiers still have no idea about these cans.

post #278 of 1039
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Hi Dsnuts! Can I ask a favor? 'just wanna know how good the ES700 performs against the MDR1r in the sub bass region.

When you have the time, can you do an A/B comparison between the two?

 

This track has that sub bass fill at 00:35 and 00:39. I wonder which cans deliver better...

 

Anything But Ordinary - Avril Lavigne


Edited by d marc0 - 2/23/13 at 8:23am
post #279 of 1039
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Both cans fill in the bass line on those notes. But I did a real test on some sub bass notes on Lil Wayne. Nightmares of the bottom using my Meridian Explorer. Both cans can do sub bass. Though 1Rs Sub bass while it has good presence is a tad on the soft side and not as textured as the ES700 in the sub bass..

 

If sub bass is what your going for the cans you should be looking at is the WS99 more so..

post #280 of 1039
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

Both cans fill in the bass line on those notes. But I did a real test on some sub bass notes on Lil Wayne. Nightmares of the bottom using my Meridian Explorer. Both cans can do sub bass. Though 1Rs Sub bass while it has good presence is a tad on the soft side and not as textured as the ES700 in the sub bass..

 

If sub bass is what your going for the cans you should be looking at is the WS99 more so..

 

Thanks D, much appreciated! My expectations are correct... I was looking for a little bit more detail in the sub bass and the ES700 can deliver this. With the MDR1r, I had to tweak the EQ at 30hz to get that satisfaction.

 

I don't mean to reach the bass head level which is where the WS99 belongs. I'm thinking the ES700 is the one! If it has a little bit more of sparkle on the higher frequencies then it is perfect set of cans for Rock and Metal... 

post #281 of 1039
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Actually I am gonna recommend the WS99 for rock n metal. It has the fastest bass you have ever heard not to mention the top end sparkle and the lower heft your looking for. The WS99 in the recent Japanese winter catalog got a 5 out of 5 rating for rock for good reason.. The ES700 is a very nice sounding can and it's strengths lies in vocals and instrument presentation that is as sweet as can be,  but it takes a back seat to the  WS99 in Rock n Metal.

post #282 of 1039
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Actually I am gonna recommend the WS99 for rock n metal. It has the fastest bass you have ever heard not to mention the top end sparkle and the lower heft your looking for. The WS99 in the recent Japanese winter catalog got a 5 out of 5 rating for rock for good reason.. The ES700 is a very nice sounding can and it's strengths lies in vocals and instrument presentation that is as sweet as can be,  but it takes a back seat to the  WS99 in Rock n Metal.
Good thing I read this post. I listen to metal more than anything so I guess I should get the WS99 over the 700s huh?
post #283 of 1039
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Good thing I read this post. I listen to metal more than anything so I guess I should get the WS99 over the 700s huh?


Why not get both??? devil_face.gif

post #284 of 1039
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Why not get both??? devil_face.gif

Because there are too many things I need to buy and I lack the money to do so. So I gotta be a little selective :P

post #285 of 1039
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Because there are too many things I need to buy and I lack the money to do so. So I gotta be a little selective :P


Don't sweat it i was just trollin' ya. tongue_smile.gif Oh right i remember these were made in Jpn, hey Ds are the ATH WS99s also made there or in CHina??? Cuz it's hard to find made in Jpn stuff these days and that is another reason why i likey these ES700s so much. 

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