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post #256 of 1004

Actually there's a little problem about the ES700's beautiful midrange, it's the plasticky housing reverb. Perhaps not everyone will feel annoyed by this problem, especially if you already used to using entry level closed back headphone.

 

Also I think due the driver and housing size, make the ES700 has narrow and not-very-spacious soundstage.

 

Other than that, this sexy headphone is indeed very well made product from ATH :)

 

 

*This post is made by a person who loves ES700 so much! 

post #257 of 1004
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Lol. These sound great to my non trained ears and I have no such issues. The clarity is top notch imo. Plasticy reverb? I don't think so. The stage is excellent for the size of cups these have as well..You don't seem like a guy that loves the ES700 so much.

 

Does anyone else have an issue with the plasticy reverb? Or smallish stage?


Edited by Dsnuts - 2/18/13 at 11:32am
post #258 of 1004

^ LoL @ Ds

 

Here are the tracks i use to check for the "plasticy reverb" phenomenon. 

 

.... from the 5 sec to 13 secs mark, you will hear like a crackling noise on your right ear cup if there is plasticy reverb.

 

 

.... from 0 secs to 30 sec mark, you will hear it from both ear cups if there are any.

 

I use these 2 tracks to check if my cans sound "right" after i mod them, if the mods are not good then i can hear the "plasticy reverb." Just my 2 cents. 

post #259 of 1004
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^ LoL @ Ds

Here are the tracks i use to check for the "plasticy reverb" phenomenon. 


.... from the 5 sec to 13 secs mark, you will hear like a crackling noise on your right ear cup if there is plasticy reverb.



.... from 0 secs to 30 sec mark, you will hear it from both ear cups if there are any.

I use these 2 tracks to check if my cans sound "right" after i mod them, if the mods are not good then i can hear the "plasticy reverb." Just my 2 cents. 
Thank you for these test clips
I also would like anyone else to point out any anomalies.

What I am noticing is on first one is low resolution but no right side artifacts.
And second one is better quality but has distortion artifacts inherent in the recording, in the bass, for both sides..
I used two headphones and also none of my own music does this so that verifies to me it is the recording.
I used these es700, and my modified jvc s400.
I will try the m100 tonight.
Edited by Maxx134 - 2/18/13 at 12:27pm
post #260 of 1004
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Thank you for these test clips
I also would like anyone else to point out any anomalies.

What I am noticing is on first one is low resolution but no right side artifacts.
And second one is better quality but has distortion artifacts inherent in the recording, in the bass, for both sides..
I used two headphones and also none of my own music does this so that verifies to me it is the recording.
I used these es700, and my modified jvc s400.
I will try the m100 tonight.

You can set that 1st youtube vid to 720p HD for better sound, it is 320p by default me thinks. The 2nd vid doesn't have a HD setting though.

post #261 of 1004
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You can set that 1st youtube vid to 720p HD for better sound, it is 320p by default me thinks. The 2nd vid doesn't have a HD setting though.


ok listeneing thru laptop and O2 amp more evident there is something in the recording adffecting sound.

my guess its overloaded bass on second and on first it is just quality recording.

Sorry to disagree.

I believe we all have capacity to hear as good as any audiophile,

we all have "golden ears" so I will not say you don't hear what you hear, because you do.

 

 

tell me if you hear anything on this funny home made video..

 


Edited by Maxx134 - 2/18/13 at 1:12pm
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ok listeneing thru laptop and O2 amp more evident there is something in the recording adffecting sound.

my guess its overloaded bass on second and on first it is just quality recording.

Sorry to disagree.

I believe we all have capacity to hear as good as any audiophile,

we all have "golden ears" so I will not say you don't hear what you hear, because you do.

 

tell me if you hear anything on this home made video..

LoL, no offense taken whatsoever, it's not like it's my music, just simply linked you to the tracks i used from my ipod albums to test for that "plasticy reverb" phenomenon.  Oh and that vid you posted doesn't work, probably a bad link???

 

edit: N/M it's working now, J-Lo??? LoL

 

edit 2: I don't hear any sound issues with my cheapo ELE Dac and lappy combo through my somic MH463s, it's a pretty good dubstep remix with good vocals. The lip syncing is bad though haha, at least put some more effort into it to make it look real.  


Edited by sfwalcer - 2/18/13 at 1:26pm
post #263 of 1004
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LoL, no offense taken whatsoever, it's not like it's my music...

haha yes and that is not even my prefered music..

this is an example of the music I like to test and listen to..:

post #264 of 1004
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edit 2: I don't hear any sound issues with my cheapo ELE Dac and lappy combo through my somic MH463s, it's a pretty good dubstep remix with good vocals. The lip syncing is bad though haha, at least put some more effort into it to make it look real.  

ok I picked it because it has dynamic impact for testing the 700. you tested the somic which I consider a good headphone, so let us know what you say on the 700.

ooo by the way how is that ele dac ? I am about to pick up an Muse Dac which is basically same with few more features for a few bucks more..

EDIT:

another guess is your issue may have been high levels of bass to driver that larger headphones can absorb due to less sensitivity.

I would also check any hairs inside driver causing plastic rattle as i had with my s400


Edited by Maxx134 - 2/18/13 at 2:27pm
post #265 of 1004
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This is very good to know.
How long have you broke the 700 in?
Have you been able to compare the Sony to the vmoda m100?
That way I can get a better idea because from what I have read the Sony are slightly duller to the vmoda m100 and not as preferred,
Yet like you mentioned, they are "side grade",
Or preference and another viable option.

To me I have to concede that the m100 were the most seductive and satisfying sound to me,
even though they don't have the highest resolution.

Yet to me these es700 are SUPERIOR (!), in SOUND,
and
Yes to me that says a lot more than just a side grade .... !!

Just looking at the sleek size!
Sorry to be blunt, but it is a dam wonder to behold next to both the Sony & vmoda cans mentioned.

An amazing feat indeed and a TRULY portable sexy headphone no one should be without,
at this Price!

Dam I just got fooled again listening to these.
Amazing ability in sub bass to make you think sounds are outside the headphones.
Edit:
Repeat ... mental note..
Must confirm any doubts...
More listening. ..
not a side grade.. that's just being polite..
My ears do not lie, definitely an upgrade to anything I had before.
Edit 2:
Positive sound descriptions:
Wet; clear; involving; musical; sweet; elegant; high end; realistic; detailed; delicate; strong; satisfying; alluring; dynamic; scary realism in bass.
Emotionally involving.

Negative sound descriptions:
Closer stage than larger cans
Somewhat brighter than most "mid centric" cans.
Not a mid centric can anyway.

Edit3:
After this short break in, (one week)
With both driver and brain burn in,
the beauty of the sound is starting to bring tears to my eyes.
Probably because the es7 was one of my favorites
and it's like "dejavu" with this reincarnation and such high level of enjoyment in music again.

My ES700's have over 150 hours of burn now.

 

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with anyone saying that the 1R sounding dull compared to the M100's.  The thing about the Sony's is that it has a unique presentation that no too many headphones can mimic.  It just has an odd sound.  Something like the M100 and ES700's make music more involving to listen to.  More so with the ES700.  The Sony's are more of an acquired taste I think.  I can understand your love for the ES700 and I would agree with you.  But, I can also enjoy the M100 and 1R for what those bring to the table.  That's why for me it's only a side grade rather than an upgrade.  

post #266 of 1004
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My ES700's have over 150 hours of burn now.

 

I wouldn't necessarily disagree with anyone saying that the 1R sounding dull compared to the M100's.  The thing about the Sony's is that it has a unique presentation that no too many headphones can mimic.  It just has an odd sound.  Something like the M100 and ES700's make music more involving to listen to.  More so with the ES700.  The Sony's are more of an acquired taste I think.  I can understand your love for the ES700 and I would agree with you.  But, I can also enjoy the M100 and 1R for what those bring to the table.  That's why for me it's only a side grade rather than an upgrade.  

This is something a wise experienced listener would say.

You become aware that you can enjoy and choose to keep multiple headphones for their own presentation and abilities.

This is same reason why I must now choose to expand my collection lol.


Edited by Maxx134 - 2/18/13 at 2:26pm
post #267 of 1004

would this be an upgrade to the m50 in terms of sound quality since both are priced similarly


Edited by yuuku - 2/19/13 at 5:57am
post #268 of 1004
Hey can you see if you hear any slight crakle or distortion starting at 3:04. I think it is in recording:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ_fkw5j-t0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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would this be an upgrade to the m50 in terms of sound quality since both are priced similarly
I had the m50 and it was very good.
I feel these have much better mids and smoother highs while being more clear and refined.
M50 more "v-shaped" sound so different.
The bass is subjective as m50 had similar maybe more amount but 700 clarity in bass is better.
The problem in picking a headphone lies in your ears and taste in music and preference for what type of sonic signature.
Edited by Maxx134 - 2/19/13 at 7:36am
post #269 of 1004

Seems like there's a misunderstanding here. What I meant about plasticy reverb is reverberate in sound, not crackling nor noise that cause by rattle of headphone's housing.

 

 

You don't need to test it with particular songs, because it's always there everytime you hear the music from this headphone :)

post #270 of 1004
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Seems like there's a misunderstanding here. What I meant about plasticy reverb is reverberate 
in sound, not crackling nor noise that cause by rattle of headphone's housing.



You don't need to test it with particular songs, because it's always there everytime you hear the music from this headphone smily_headphones1.gif
oh ok so it's is for U a reverberation. ..
Edit:
It would seem that it's the sonic signature for you then.
Maybe somehow U R sensitive to decay in that frequency.
I will do some comparison tonight as I am intrigued about finding anything as I found these headphones superior in details to most, and that also may be an antagonist in what you hear.
Since you said reverb, would you also say it is "sound stage"?
Are you used to open or closed cans?
My only suggestion would be a pad swap or pad mod to see if any change in resonance or reverb sensitivity.
Edit:
Forget that the only thing I would look into is if the internal materials are different between our units.
Edited by Maxx134 - 2/19/13 at 12:53pm
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