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Whoa. I didn't say all that. I'm sure you're trying to illustrate a point. Just not sure what it is.

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Whoa. I didn't say all that. I'm sure you're trying to illustrate a point. Just not sure what it is.

 

Sorry m8.... i was confusing i know.... i already edited the post..... XD

post #93 of 98

No further thoughts on the K550 vs the 1R and the Momentum?  I was curious to continue reading this thread as I'm considering all three of those phones right now.  They're all available for less than $200 used and I'm curious for more thoughts.

 

For me personally, I am looking for a portable to use when I'm not at home with my Q701 (with bass port mod).  Given that I really adore my Q701, I suspect the AKG and Momentum will be more to my liking sonically (less bass getting in the way of the fine details).  Since I'm not looking for an on-ear, the Momentums may not work out for me.  That leaves the K550...

post #94 of 98
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No further thoughts on the K550 vs the 1R and the Momentum?  I was curious to continue reading this thread as I'm considering all three of those phones right now.  They're all available for less than $200 used and I'm curious for more thoughts.

 

For me personally, I am looking for a portable to use when I'm not at home with my Q701 (with bass port mod).  Given that I really adore my Q701, I suspect the AKG and Momentum will be more to my liking sonically (less bass getting in the way of the fine details).  Since I'm not looking for an on-ear, the Momentums may not work out for me.  That leaves the K550...

K550 sound more artificial. I haven't tried them since I got my Q's though. The K550's are also really huge, I don't really see that as portable. YMMV with the fit of the Momentums. Just my opinion, I didn't really like the K550's too much. 

 

edit; K550's are close to the size of the Q's

 

Momentum is the best sounding out of all of them to me. 1R comes very close, bringing some emphasis to bass and mids. I believe the one with the most isolation are the Momentums. 


Edited by Fuzziekiwi - 4/17/14 at 7:15am
post #95 of 98

You know, I did a LOT more research last night and I've decided the K545 is a lot more competition for these than the K550.  They're actually portable for one.  For another, it sounds like their sound signature is improved and they have a removable cable.  Anyways, thoughts on the K545 (vs the other two) would be awesome.

post #96 of 98
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You know, I did a LOT more research last night and I've decided the K545 is a lot more competition for these than the K550.  They're actually portable for one.  For another, it sounds like their sound signature is improved and they have a removable cable.  Anyways, thoughts on the K545 (vs the other two) would be awesome.

I believe I have tried them, yes they sound better than the K550 imo, and are much more portable than the K550. I didn't demo them for long at best buy, but they were the 2nd best sounding they had for demo, 1st being the Momentum On-Ear. But they are totally opposite sound signatures. I'm surprised nobody really owns the K545. Probably because of the price. 


Edited by Fuzziekiwi - 4/17/14 at 9:32am
post #97 of 98

FWIW, I listened to the Momentums and the MDRs today.

Source was my iPhone 5 and music ranged from jazzy vocals to a mix of electronic/acoustic folk to hard kicking industrial dub step.

I also listened to the B&W P7.

 

The MDRs were nice and gave a fairly up front sound. They were nice and articulated everything well enough without any major issues at all.

The Momentums allowed me to sit further back from the performers and also hear the nuances of the venue acoustic better. The Momentums sounded bigger BUT, didn't initially seem to deliver the outright detail that the MDRs delivered. Listen though, and it sure is there. It's just not shoved at you.

I prefered the Momentums.

Why?

Their sound has a delicacy about it and I could get carried away by the music easier with these.

The allowed the different feelings of different genres to show through.

They were a much more musical headphone despite not being as accurate perhaps. 

The MDRs on the other hand 'forced' me listen to the music and I felt 'on edge' even with laid back music.

The MDRs looked nice but they didn't have the classy build or materials like the Senns.

The B&W was like the MDR but better - cleaner, more detail and less veiled again, seemed easier to drive, bigger stage, better made.


Edited by Winno - 5/14/14 at 2:46am
post #98 of 98
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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post
 

No further thoughts on the K550 vs the 1R and the Momentum?  I was curious to continue reading this thread as I'm considering all three of those phones right now.  They're all available for less than $200 used and I'm curious for more thoughts.

 

For me personally, I am looking for a portable to use when I'm not at home with my Q701 (with bass port mod).  Given that I really adore my Q701, I suspect the AKG and Momentum will be more to my liking sonically (less bass getting in the way of the fine details).  Since I'm not looking for an on-ear, the Momentums may not work out for me.  That leaves the K550...

The K550 is definitely NOT portable. non-removable 3m cable & gigantic earcups. definitely my favorite though out of the k550 vs mdr-1r vs momentum line-up. been a while since i've directly compared all three, but the k550 is the most neutral, most detailed, and has best soundstage out of those options. also had the best bass extension and bass quality. of course, has the akg house sound, so kind of personal preference. I actually kind of prefer the k550 over my current q701 though never got a chance to head-to-head compare. the momentum has a very detailed, consumer-friendly sound, and more bass quantity. great overall SQ but the on-ear fit (even for the technically over-ear) was a deal breaker for me. otherwise, an outstanding pair of headphones with great build quality. the mdr-1r has a colored sound, which I did enjoy, but the main attraction of the mdr-1r was the comfort. definitely the MOST comfortable closed portable pair of headphones I have ever had the pleasure of using. If I was to pick one for portable use, I would go MDR-1R. Otherwise, home use the K550. The momentums are great but I had comfort issues with them & if a pair of headphones aren't comfortable, they just gather dust.

 

You should consider the akg k545 (portable version of the k550 w/ slightly more bass which most people like)

 

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K550 sound more artificial. I haven't tried them since I got my Q's though. The K550's are also really huge, I don't really see that as portable. YMMV with the fit of the Momentums. Just my opinion, I didn't really like the K550's too much. 

 

edit; K550's are close to the size of the Q's

 

Momentum is the best sounding out of all of them to me. 1R comes very close, bringing some emphasis to bass and mids. I believe the one with the most isolation are the Momentums. 

Interesting preference. I personally thought the K550 was very neutral and linear which was amazing. great detail, clarity, and crisp treble. the sound stage is probably one of the best for a closed pair. If the earcups seal well, you get amazingly detailed & tight bass with suburb extension. The K550 was my personal preference and I actually kind of like them more than the q701. also, the k550 were so much more comfortable. those damn bumps on the q701. I do hear the new k712 has an amazing new reworked sound signature, which would be fun to try. the k712 is probably the best mid-range akg right now.

 

both the momentum and the mdr-1r has an actual bass boost (more consumer-friendly sound) while the k550's sound sig is very flat and focused more on the treble. i feel like the k550 is more reference-oriented. does take a while to get used to it and not everyone likes it.  

 

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You know, I did a LOT more research last night and I've decided the K545 is a lot more competition for these than the K550.  They're actually portable for one.  For another, it sounds like their sound signature is improved and they have a removable cable.  Anyways, thoughts on the K545 (vs the other two) would be awesome.

Yes!!!! you should go k545. if I was to get a portable pair, that would be my first pick for under $200 range headphones. has most of the positive attributes of the k550 at a smaller size with a bit more bass (which people enjoy). the one complaint people had about the k550 was the anemic bass (which is really only an issue if they don't fit and seal well IMO), but the updated sound signature would be a win for those folks. the black-turquoise looks absolutely gorgeous in real life.

 

The pair of headphones you like best really depends on your sound signature  preference rather than technical prowess & SQ. you really notice the differences in sound signature a lot more than any SQ difference. the mdr-1r has a rich, lush mid-centric sound with a mid-bass bump, colored sound sig that i really enjoyed it. the momentum is great all-arounder with a consumer-friendly bass-boost, solid detail, good technical performer. there are some concerns of the mdr-1r's durability & build quality (though I didn't find it to be problematic if you aren't rough with them) and concerns of the momentum's comfort d/t on-ear fit (this was a big issue for me - unfortunate because the real leather earpads are actually really nice). 

 

sound quality-wise, they are actually all honestly about the same. I would rank SQ in this order: k550, momentum, mdr-1r, (based on direct comparison of detail retrieval & clarity over a week long period). k550 over the k545 in terms of technical performance, but I really like the updated sound sig of the k545. I didn't get a chance to direct compare the momentum & mdr-1r against the k545 b/c the k545 is much newer, but I compared the k545 with the k550, and the k545 would definitely be my go-to pick for portable headphones. very similar sound with a bit more bass, great soundstage, good detail and clarity.

 

good luck & I hope you find what you are looking for.

 

note: I've owned all three: the k550, mdr-1r, and momentum for about 2 weeks at the same time, so I could do a lot of detailed direct comparisons. the k545 I demoed at best buy against the k550 and the other offerings there. all impressions are of course subject to personal bias :P


Edited by money4me247 - 8/20/14 at 11:11pm
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