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post #31 of 58

If you ever want to test if aftermarket cables make a difference, then either get a sennheiser hd 600/650 and 3 aftermarket cables. Use a decent amp, and listen to your favourite music with each cable. Then you will be able to make a distinction for yourself and wont need to depend on anyone else's opinion on the matter. That is what i did, and for me aftermarket cables can make a big difference. Doesnt mean every single headphone will benefit from an aftermarket cable, but they CAN make a difference.

The people who always question that aftermarket cables do nothing usually come from the perspective that since they do nothing, why buy them, and if they have never bought and used them before, then their opinion isnt worth a second thought. As they have no experience on the matter.

I also tested the change of cabling with a V-moda m80, since they use 3.5" connections, its very easy to get aftermarket cables, i bought and used about a dozen, and most of em sounded different. So there is another test you can do i guess. Usually the higher quality cables opened up the mids, and made the bass slightly tighter while also making the sound stage bigger. It also becomes slightly less muffled.

post #32 of 58

Hi, my Goldring DR150 has a difference between the original cable and a custom cable called Vero 150. Tried and tested with blind testing as well.

I have no idea how it works.

post #33 of 58
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Originally Posted by garetz View Post

If you ever want to test if aftermarket cables make a difference, then either get a sennheiser hd 600/650 and 3 aftermarket cables. Use a decent amp, and listen to your favourite music with each cable. Then you will be able to make a distinction for yourself and wont need to depend on anyone else's opinion on the matter. That is what i did, and for me aftermarket cables can make a big difference. Doesnt mean every single headphone will benefit from an aftermarket cable, but they CAN make a difference.

The people who always question that aftermarket cables do nothing usually come from the perspective that since they do nothing, why buy them, and if they have never bought and used them before, then their opinion isnt worth a second thought. As they have no experience on the matter.

I also tested the change of cabling with a V-moda m80, since they use 3.5" connections, its very easy to get aftermarket cables, i bought and used about a dozen, and most of em sounded different. So there is another test you can do i guess. Usually the higher quality cables opened up the mids, and made the bass slightly tighter while also making the sound stage bigger. It also becomes slightly less muffled.

here here thats a great way to prove to yourself. wish others would at least be this open to THE TRUTH!

post #34 of 58
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Originally Posted by teds headfood View Post

here here thats a great way to prove to yourself. wish others would at least be this open to THE TRUTH!

 

Ah, but which "TRUTH"?

 

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post #35 of 58

THE TRUTH

you know "the truth of what each person decides after actually trying something different and making their own mind up."

THE TRUTH

post #36 of 58
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Originally Posted by teds headfood View Post

THE TRUTH

you know "the truth of what each person decides after actually trying something different and making their own mind up."

THE TRUTH

 

In that case, for me, that only extends to whether or not I like something. I don't take it any further than that.

 

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post #37 of 58
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Originally Posted by garetz View Post

If you ever want to test if aftermarket cables make a difference, then either get a sennheiser hd 600/650 and 3 aftermarket cables. Use a decent amp, and listen to your favourite music with each cable. Then you will be able to make a distinction for yourself and wont need to depend on anyone else's opinion on the matter. That is what i did, and for me aftermarket cables can make a big difference. Doesnt mean every single headphone will benefit from an aftermarket cable, but they CAN make a difference.


The people who always question that aftermarket cables do nothing usually come from the perspective that since they do nothing, why buy them, and if they have never bought and used them before, then their opinion isnt worth a second thought. As they have no experience on the matter.


I also tested the change of cabling with a V-moda m80, since they use 3.5" connections, its very easy to get aftermarket cables, i bought and used about a dozen, and most of em sounded different. So there is another test you can do i guess. Usually the higher quality cables opened up the mids, and made the bass slightly tighter while also making the sound stage bigger. It also becomes slightly less muffled.
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Ive never listened to an upgrade cable, but what I don't understand is the wiring running inside the headphones is not goin to be the quality that the upgrade wire has. So once the sound reaches the wires inside the headphones, wouldn't the sound quality drop back to what it was before the upgrade?
post #38 of 58
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Originally Posted by garetz View Post

If you ever want to test if aftermarket cables make a difference, then either get a sennheiser hd 600/650 and 3 aftermarket cables. Use a decent amp, and listen to your favourite music with each cable. Then you will be able to make a distinction for yourself and wont need to depend on anyone else's opinion on the matter. That is what i did, and for me aftermarket cables can make a big difference. Doesnt mean every single headphone will benefit from an aftermarket cable, but they CAN make a difference.

The people who always question that aftermarket cables do nothing usually come from the perspective that since they do nothing, why buy them, and if they have never bought and used them before, then their opinion isnt worth a second thought. As they have no experience on the matter.

I also tested the change of cabling with a V-moda m80, since they use 3.5" connections, its very easy to get aftermarket cables, i bought and used about a dozen, and most of em sounded different. So there is another test you can do i guess. Usually the higher quality cables opened up the mids, and made the bass slightly tighter while also making the sound stage bigger. It also becomes slightly less muffled.

 

And what if I actually have tested an aftermarket cable (Cardas) with my HD650 and it actually sounded worse than the stock cable?

post #39 of 58
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And what if I actually have tested an aftermarket cable (Cardas) with my HD650 and it actually sounded worse than the stock cable?

Then don't buy any of them.

post #40 of 58
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And what if I actually have tested an aftermarket cable (Cardas) with my HD650 and it actually sounded worse than the stock cable?


If it sounded worse to you, then just proves my point, as naysayers will attest that all cables sound the same, but if an aftermarket cable sounds worse, then all cables do not sound the same, so you can tell a difference.

In the end you are not just using an aftermarket cable, you also have to worry about the source, and the amp, the hd650, as most people can attest doesnt sound great with all genres of music, so there is many variables that can make the aftermarket sound worse than it should. As long as you keep all the variables constant, when changing the cables, and make sure the amp/source is at least as good as the headphones deserve, then the aftermarket cables should sound better. If it sounded worse than stock then you are doing something wrong imo.

post #41 of 58
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If it sounded worse to you, then just proves my point, as naysayers will attest that all cables sound the same, but if an aftermarket cable sounds worse, then all cables do not sound the same, so you can tell a difference.


In the end you are not just using an aftermarket cable, you also have to worry about the source, and the amp, the hd650, as most people can attest doesnt sound great with all genres of music, so there is many variables that can make the aftermarket sound worse than it should. As long as you keep all the variables constant, when changing the cables, and make sure the amp/source is at least as good as the headphones deserve, then the aftermarket cables should sound better. If it sounded worse than stock then you are doing something wrong imo.


Actually the Cardas upgrade sounded "worse" in the sense that it created voltage drops and static charge. Actual sound difference maybe was there but not worth paying extra 300 bucks. That is the whole point for me in this case. Paying 800 bucks for hd650 with aftermarket cable is just nuts.
Edited by muxamed - 1/23/13 at 3:29am
post #42 of 58
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Actually the Cardas upgrade sounded "worse" in the sense that it created voltage drops and static loads. Actual sound difference maybe was there but not worth paying extra 300 bucks. That is the whole point for me in this case. Paying 800 bucks for hd650 with aftermarket cable is just nuts.

Hmm Cardas do some funky stuff with their cable geometry, I always wondered what it would sound like there should be heaps of inductance (I don't understand what static load means). A case of audiophile cable construction failing?
post #43 of 58
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Hmm Cardas do some funky stuff with their cable geometry, I always wondered what it would sound like there should be heaps of inductance (I don't understand what static load means). A case of audiophile cable construction failing?

I meant "static charge". Sorry smile.gif

post #44 of 58
How well would an aftermarket cable really work? Wouldn't you have to rewire the inside of the headphone with the same aftermarket wire to get a good result?
post #45 of 58
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Originally Posted by Lenni View Post

I'll tell what is bizarre. You posting in this forum about something you never tried and know nothing about; wanting to discuss auto-suggestion and other psychology theories here.  

you went to all that trouble to write that article (or whatever it is), and nobody gives a ****. it sucks

Not true, unless your name is nobody.
So don't insult a guy who is giving his honest and true opinion. Many of us are evidence based. If you are not, good for you.
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