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............JCRG

 

If you listen to more of rock and roll type of songs, get the 900x

 

If you listen to music with a lot of bass, get the vmoda M-100 or the shures that you are talking about. 

 

If you listen to music with a lot of mids.............Get quiet PC fans and get an open headphone. 

Even if I quieten my pc, there's still the a/c in my room, so open headphones are discarded.
And I'm leaning towards a flat response headphone (like the SRH940), but the A900X are still a favourite.

 

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ive had the dg- its very decent- not as sweet as a hi-end card, but better than most

What would be a next step from a DG in your opinion?


Edited by JCRG - 1/8/13 at 8:44pm
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Even if I quieten my pc, there's still the a/c in my room, so open headphones are discarded.
And I'm leaning towards a flat response headphone (like the SRH940), but the A900X are still a favourite.

 

What would be a next step from a DG in your opinion?


Just as a heads up though, a flat response is not everything when it comes to comparing audio products. You also have the issue of sound stage. If you have an abnormally small sound stage, your sound will become unnatural no matter what sort of frequency response the headphones have. 

 

Now to be honest I haven't tested the shures, but I have tested the mad dogs headphones which also have a really flat response, and they were ok, but they did not sound all that natural or warm. 

 

I don't mean to dissuade you from the shures, but I just want to give you a heads up like I said. 


Also, I know you weren't asking me, but to give you a break down of sound cards, you have a couple options. The next one above the DG is the DGX, it is slightly better, but I would skip it and go for the DS. It uses much better components, and you can find it on sale for about the same price as the DG. The next one would be the asus DX. Again, the sound quality is a noticeably better without wasting the extra 15 bucks on the D1 (they are essentially the same card). 

 

After that your have the creative titanium HD. It is sort of like a mini me version of the asus essence stx. It actually sounds and performs pretty well. I personally do not like creative products due to the odd sound signature, but that is a subjective statement. 

 

After that you have the audio engine D1 amp/dac. This is a VERY good yet cheap dedicated amp and dac that sounds just fantastic for the price point. 

 

Next up is the asus essence stx. It is just a freaking great sound card. It can hold its own against some higher end audiophile amps and dacs for under 200, but I find it to be a tad to grainy. 

 

Lastly (without getting into the 300+ price range) is the schiit magni and modi. It is a great little amp/dac stack and it gives you a nice clean audio source. Awesome bang for the buck. 

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Just as a heads up though, a flat response is not everything when it comes to comparing audio products. You also have the issue of sound stage. If you have an abnormally small sound stage, your sound will become unnatural no matter what sort of frequency response the headphones have. 

 

Now to be honest I haven't tested the shures, but I have tested the mad dogs headphones which also have a really flat response, and they were ok, but they did not sound all that natural or warm. 

 

I don't mean to dissuade you from the shures, but I just want to give you a heads up like I said. 


Also, I know you weren't asking me, but to give you a break down of sound cards, you have a couple options. The next one above the DG is the DGX, it is slightly better, but I would skip it and go for the DS. It uses much better components, and you can find it on sale for about the same price as the DG. The next one would be the asus DX. Again, the sound quality is a noticeably better without wasting the extra 15 bucks on the D1 (they are essentially the same card). 

 

After that your have the creative titanium HD. It is sort of like a mini me version of the asus essence stx. It actually sounds and performs pretty well. I personally do not like creative products due to the odd sound signature, but that is a subjective statement. 

 

After that you have the audio engine D1 amp/dac. This is a VERY good yet cheap dedicated amp and dac that sounds just fantastic for the price point. 

 

Next up is the asus essence stx. It is just a freaking great sound card. It can hold its own against some higher end audiophile amps and dacs for under 200, but I find it to be a tad to grainy. 

 

Lastly (without getting into the 300+ price range) is the schiit magni and modi. It is a great little amp/dac stack and it gives you a nice clean audio source. Awesome bang for the buck. 

Well, I do look for soundstage and flat response (I even started a thread about it 3 days ago).


And as for the soundcards, I've read that the DGX is basically the same as the DG, but in PCIe version (which is troublesome to use due to the fact that in 90% of the cases your high-end GPU will block the only PCIex1 slot).

 

I've also read that the DS is design for movies, rather than gaming, uses different technology.


Edited by JCRG - 1/8/13 at 10:10pm
post #19 of 20

being a hard core gamer- ive had many sound cards, including many flavors of x-fi and xonar.

 

i've had the xonar ds - nice sound, but no amp onboard

xonar dg- not quite as sweet as the DS, but close. has a small amp for 150 ohm cans

Xonar u3 usb - better than DG, but dolby headphone directional cues not as strong

Xonar ST. very very nice, my nirvana, great range, strong amp, dolby headphone cues wider and stronger (but costs a lot). probaly all the higher end xonars sound similar.

 

honestly, even the DG was better than a modded x-fi i had for sound quality. get one, u wont be sorry for 30$

post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by ourfpshero View Post

being a hard core gamer- ive had many sound cards, including many flavors of x-fi and xonar.

 

i've had the xonar ds - nice sound, but no amp onboard

xonar dg- not quite as sweet as the DS, but close. has a small amp for 150 ohm cans

Xonar u3 usb - better than DG, but dolby headphone directional cues not as strong

Xonar ST. very very nice, my nirvana, great range, strong amp, dolby headphone cues wider and stronger (but costs a lot). probaly all the higher end xonars sound similar.

 

honestly, even the DG was better than a modded x-fi i had for sound quality. get one, u wont be sorry for 30$


Thanks, the DG sounds (pun intended) like a good start.

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