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post #91 of 99
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Originally Posted by ProtegeManiac View Post

I've tried a simulation of the HD600 (on fresh pads) vs the HD800, and the sound is close in terms of the frequency response (by ear, of course), but it can't replicate the finer details and absolutely not the soundstage. I prefer the "Flat" or "Hi-Fi" simulation settings over flat as in EQ off on the HD600 though, but given the bugs that sometimes the library just gets modified on its own (missing albums, etc), I just went back to FLAC Player.
Ah, so you really can't replicate the soundstage, as I thought. Thanks very much for your info. So, to sum it up, you can try to replicate the sound, but everything else can't. Even then, it's a great effort made by the devs at Golden Ears, which I will praise.

Well, if anyone'd like to know what my settings are, it's the AUDEZ'E LCD-2 setting on Hi-Fi, using the Beats Pro.
post #92 of 99
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Ah, so you really can't replicate the soundstage, as I thought.

 

It's really impossible to do because the HD800 chassis (as on the T1, etc) positions the drivers forward of the ears and angles them, simulating toe-in on speakers. With speakers it's already hard to replicate the sound of the same speaker on a well-dampened room vs a room with minimal acoustic treatments, and as much as headphones do away with dealing with the room, the manner of wearing headphones is another matter. Chassis design as on the HD800 prevents a lot of that - I've seen people who think the HD600s are too far forward, but the rear of the pads are barely touching their ears, which means the drivers are smack on top of their ear openings.

post #93 of 99
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Originally Posted by ProtegeManiac View Post

 

It's really impossible to do because the HD800 chassis (as on the T1, etc) positions the drivers forward of the ears and angles them, simulating toe-in on speakers. With speakers it's already hard to replicate the sound of the same speaker on a well-dampened room vs a room with minimal acoustic treatments, and as much as headphones do away with dealing with the room, the manner of wearing headphones is another matter. Chassis design as on the HD800 prevents a lot of that - I've seen people who think the HD600s are too far forward, but the rear of the pads are barely touching their ears, which means the drivers are smack on top of their ear openings.

     But considering that the HD800s have a really wide soundstage, what happens if you try to replicate those of closed back headphones using closed-back headphones? It's an experiment I'd love to try.

post #94 of 99
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     But considering that the HD800s have a really wide soundstage, what happens if you try to replicate those of closed back headphones using closed-back headphones? It's an experiment I'd love to try.

 

The chassis of the HD800 isn't just open-back, it also places the driver at a position that helps the soundstage. An M50 for example won't have the same angle mount as a Sony MDR-1R, let alone the added space around the ears and the angle mount of a K550. As such, the frequency response can be mimmicked using a custom EQ, but I doubt how much better the soundstage will get.

post #95 of 99
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Originally Posted by ProtegeManiac View Post

 

The chassis of the HD800 isn't just open-back, it also places the driver at a position that helps the soundstage. An M50 for example won't have the same angle mount as a Sony MDR-1R, let alone the added space around the ears and the angle mount of a K550. As such, the frequency response can be mimmicked using a custom EQ, but I doubt how much better the soundstage will get.

     True. I guess I have nothing left to say on this.

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post #96 of 99
Just started using this. Was glad to see my Shure srh840 was listed, and using the setting helped clear up some minor issues with the treble and over emphasized bass hump. They do indicate that, using a rating, that some headphones are going to be better suited to the compensation.

What's interesting is that switching back to the 'normal' uncompensated setting, after getting used to the compensated setting can make it sound like a filter/eq is applied on your headphone! Amazing how you ears adjust.

The app didn't have a setting for the MDR-ex600 but had one for the ex1000. Applying this to my ex600 really helped for electronic tracks, basses and drum kicks where the ex600 could really use a boost. Also snares, claps, sounded more natural. Switching back to normal, hihats and claps sounded like they were running through a resonant filter (and looking at the ex600/1000 equiliation curve almost mimics this effect). The ex600 on its normal settings is weaker sounding but still very dynamic. I think for solo piano and jazz I may just leave the eq off.

This app is quality and its generally a good idea. It's an excellent eq overall. Definitely play around with it, but it won't replace the dynamic possibilities and innate qualities of audiophile gear. Recommended, especially as its free! Will pick up the pro version to support the development.

Cross-feed or some form of Bauer stereophonic-to-binaural would be a nice addition.
post #97 of 99
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Originally Posted by Malfunkt View Post

Just started using this. Was glad to see my Shure srh840 was listed, and using the setting helped clear up some minor issues with the treble and over emphasized bass hump. They do indicate that, using a rating, that some headphones are going to be better suited to the compensation.

What's interesting is that switching back to the 'normal' uncompensated setting, after getting used to the compensated setting can make it sound like a filter/eq is applied on your headphone! Amazing how you ears adjust.

The app didn't have a setting for the MDR-ex600 but had one for the ex1000. Applying this to my ex600 really helped for electronic tracks, basses and drum kicks where the ex600 could really use a boost. Also snares, claps, sounded more natural. Switching back to normal, hihats and claps sounded like they were running through a resonant filter (and looking at the ex600/1000 equiliation curve almost mimics this effect). The ex600 on its normal settings is weaker sounding but still very dynamic. I think for solo piano and jazz I may just leave the eq off.

This app is quality and its generally a good idea. It's an excellent eq overall. Definitely play around with it, but it won't replace the dynamic possibilities and innate qualities of audiophile gear. Recommended, especially as its free! Will pick up the pro version to support the development.

Cross-feed or some form of Bauer stereophonic-to-binaural would be a nice addition.

You're probably lucky to have an improvement in the SQ of your headphones, because mine sucked up all of that bass, until I played around and got a better setting.

Pro isn't as reliable sometimes because it loads for around 5 seconds before playing the next song. I had to switch back at times. Even then, the quality is stunning.

post #98 of 99

It is supposed to suck out all the bass. "Flat" means all that boomy bass in the Beats wont be there. The idea is that you can a very rough idea what other headphones sound like as well as hear what an effectively neutral frequency response sounds like. 

post #99 of 99
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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post

It is supposed to suck out all the bass. "Flat" means all that boomy bass in the Beats wont be there. The idea is that you can a very rough idea what other headphones sound like as well as hear what an effectively neutral frequency response sounds like. 

The problem is, the bass is sucked out, and it sounds too plain and lifeless. But I changed the settings and got a better result. The bass was slightly reduced, but the treble and the midrange was significantly clarified and increased.

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