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Originally Posted by mpawluk91 View Post


i have to say, the bh works perfectly. mine and my friends bh perform the exact same even at super low volume I've never ever experienced ANY issues.

But if your headphones hardly require any power and you can't turn up the amp past 2% and your mad because the channels are imbalanced then why are you using an amp at all??? Seems a bit of a waste and you can't even use the potential of the amplifier


I agree even on low gain with R-50 you only have minute adjustment levels.

Btw: I've tried BH with R-50 it was ok pairing to my ears, and enhanced the low end using the amps LF switch however because of the lift in top end they became a little treble happy and sibilance was also enhanced with vocals, so it might not be recommended from me. R-50 are terribly easy to drive, it's different for each individual IEM. Something like TF10 however, (also easy to drive) really benefits from the amplification. 

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Well. The pairing is ok with R-50 (from memory) I mostly used the BH vanilla and with a 75 ohm impedance adapter. That way I could easily use it on the go without being worried about turning the volume up. And YES, the R-50 are easy to drive. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be amped. Something like the CK100Pro are easy to drive but presence shrinks the soundstage and the BH is one of those things that just saves the overall experience. So I used the BH to get that extra soundstage and details over a weak source such as the Galaxy S4. I later stopped using it on the go because of EMI but as soon as I had some time sitting down on a chair, in front of a desk, the BH was there.

 

Nowadays it's mostly retired since I got my Apex Glacier. Interested in the Fiio E18 as well. Has anybody tried it and compared to the BH?


Edited by MoonYeol - 1/2/14 at 12:55am
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Wow the fiio x3 sounds killer with the bh

This is probably the best synergy I've experienced yet (fiio x3, c&c bh, cryo silver mini to mini, yamaha pro 400 cans with cryo silver headphone cable, oh yeah all files are alac and I ripped the music from cd's with dbpoweramp and accurate rip)
Edited by mpawluk91 - 1/2/14 at 4:27pm
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I've had the C&C BH Amp for about 5 months now, it is my first portable amp, which I bought along with Momentum cans. I'm using a FiiO LOD, a 7th gen 120gb ipod classic, and try to stick to 320 kbps or lossless audio files.

 

I digress, the C&C BH Amp, imo, is amazing for its price point. The battery life is unbelievable, its sturdy, has the same footprint as an iPod, and 3 toggles to play with.  The gain switch (which I imagine could drive pretty powerful headphones, although maybe not models that require 300 ohms or so), a bass boost, and, what I guess I'd call a soundstage expander. With my momentums having a whole 18 ohms impedance, i never use them on high gain to conserve battery charge but also because I do not believe using the high gain on low impedance headphones has any notable advantage in terms of SQ.  The bass and soundstage switches are typically on with my momentums because I enjoy the increase in soundstage depth along with the slight bass boost. You won't mistake the momentums or the vmoda m-100s bass kick, but it still helps bring electronica to life.

 

For a first amp, I'd really recommend it for anyone, its quite the treat. It also comes with two bands, a nice carrying pouch, and a mini to mini interconnect. If you buy this please buy a LOD to avoid the iPod's amp and low-quality headphone jack, its well worth $20 bucks or whatever. 

 

I'm just a novice hi-fi'er since my first 'high-end' purchases where made last July... the momentum and c&c bh (for a college kid, $500 is a good chunk of change), but I'd like to think my review is pretty on the mark. I've been reading these forms like an addict for months, just finally joined :D.

 

hope this helps!

 

p.s. I just ordered the CLAS to add to my portable rig, can't wait! 

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The CLAS should REALLY improve the sound over the ipod dac
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Thats what I'm hoping for, do you think the C&C BH will be good with the CLAS? I know the ALO Mk3 would be preferable but for $650, that a veryyy serious investment.

 

Also, as far as interconnects go for the CLAS, amp, and iPod for the time being I've got the stock apple digital LOD and the little interconnect that comes with the BH. In upgrading, what kind of difference does it make and what are some good options (if you have any insight :) ). I've heard ALO makes excellent cables, but those, much like their MK3, are uber expensive for somebody quite literally weeks removed from college. A

 

Any insight is helpful! 

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Originally Posted by MattAnthony1990 View Post

Thats what I'm hoping for, do you think the C&C BH will be good with the CLAS? I know the ALO Mk3 would be preferable but for $650, that a veryyy serious investment.

Also, as far as interconnects go for the CLAS, amp, and iPod for the time being I've got the stock apple digital LOD and the little interconnect that comes with the BH. In upgrading, what kind of difference does it make and what are some good options (if you have any insight smily_headphones1.gif ). I've heard ALO makes excellent cables, but those, much like their MK3, are uber expensive for somebody quite literally weeks removed from college. A

Any insight is helpful! 
i think that mostly the performance of your bh has to deal with headphones more than source but yeah I would think it'd pair nicley

But if you want sum nice cables for way cheaper than alo send audio minor a message his headfi name is compicat

You will be very pleased just be sure to get 3 pole cryo silver cable. You can't go wrong
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Impressions added to the OP, MattAnthony1990. :-)
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I've had a few different amps over the years (mostly Fiio branded, e17, e12, e07k, e11) and I've never been super happy with their house sound so I've always ended up selling them.  With a little push from an audiophile friend, I'll just ordered one of these BH2s...hopefully I like the C&C sound better than Fiio's!  I'm going to be using it with M-100s and GR07 BEs.

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Got mine today, I'm loving output 2 for the R-50. Any clues what the charts in the manual are? Also, any specifications for the level of LF boost added? I'm loving it by the way. As mentioned, imbalance at the veeery lowest output levels but nowhere I'd be listening, even going to sleep. It's very slim and fits well on the iPod Classic. I'll post sound impressions soon. Loving the little bit of extra soundstage and refinement they add to the R-50, I know it's not huge but it is noticeable.

 

 

The Output 2 liking was very reactionary. Output 1 sounds much nicer upon further listening.


Edited by Mdraluck23 - 1/3/14 at 9:03pm
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Got mine today, I'm loving output 2 for the R-50. Any clues what the charts in the manual are? Also, any specifications for the level of LF boost added? I'm loving it by the way. As mentioned, imbalance at the veeery lowest output levels but nowhere I'd be listening, even going to sleep. It's very slim and fits well on the iPod Classic. I'll post sound impressions soon. Loving the little bit of extra soundstage and refinement they add to the R-50, I know it's not huge but it is noticeable.

 

 

The Output 2 liking was very reactionary. Output 1 sounds much nicer upon further listening.

 

I'm not absolutely certain because i'm going by memory, but something is telling me the LF adds 6dB at around 60Hz. But that is based on my memory. I know the centre is in the 40-80Hz range because it's at the same place as my headphones have a response peak (which is why i never use LF).

 

The place i read it is buried deep in my bookmarks somewhere. I can't search right now because i'm super busy, but if no one is certain i'll dig it up in a few days when i don't have so much on.

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I'm not absolutely certain because i'm going by memory, but something is telling me the LF adds 6dB at around 60Hz. But that is based on my memory. I know the centre is in the 40-80Hz range because it's at the same place as my headphones have a response peak (which is why i never use LF).

 

The place i read it is buried deep in my bookmarks somewhere. I can't search right now because i'm super busy, but if no one is certain i'll dig it up in a few days when i don't have so much on.

 I am all but certain its 5dB, with the caveat that it adds both treble and bass, not just bass. I can't recall where I read that exact piece of information otherwise I'd link it, but as a C&C BH2 owner I did my homework on it :).

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Originally Posted by MattAnthony1990 View Post
 

 I am all but certain its 5dB, with the caveat that it adds both treble and bass, not just bass. I can't recall where I read that exact piece of information otherwise I'd link it, but as a C&C BH2 owner I did my homework on it :).


You may well be right, it was way back when I was considering purchase that I read the detailed review of the previous model and took the information from there (at the time, if not still, there wasn't as precise a review anywhere for this model) so I am going by a distant memory and the assumption we all made at the time that the switches were identicle between models. As i never use LF it isn't top of my list of things to remember when thinking about the specs of the BH/BH2. You are ,therefore, probably a better source and I imagine it is indeed 5dB :)

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My Bh2 arrived today and just wow. First...can't believe how small the thing is. Second...paired with my m100s coming out if my iPad air streaming google music is fantastic. Not the highest quality files...but it's quite a but fuller than my previous fiio amps...I much prefer c&cs house sound over fiio...I can already tell that. The bh2 seems to match perfectly with the m100s. Gotta try it later with my gr07 bes.
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Originally Posted by dbdynsty25 View Post

My Bh2 arrived today and just wow. First...can't believe how small the thing is. Second...paired with my m100s coming out if my iPad air streaming google music is fantastic. Not the highest quality files...but it's quite a but fuller than my previous fiio amps...I much prefer c&cs house sound over fiio...I can already tell that. The bh2 seems to match perfectly with the m100s. Gotta try it later with my gr07 bes.

 

Congrats! Let us know which switches you settle on. I keep mine on output1, SF=ON, LF=OFF and love it. Others though seem to like SF=OFF and LF=ON. Anyway... enjoy!

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