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post #2626 of 3314
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Originally Posted by SkyBleu View Post


How do you find the T1 when compared to the BH?

 

sorry for breaking in, i have both and in short this is difficult to say.

 

for C3 i prefer BH, it helps C3 open up since C3 amp section is weak and inferior. T1 truly shines with DAPs with good amp section because it can purify music and add background blackness and bring more rich texture and dynamics. to some extent i find BH and T1 being different amps and i love both for their own. T1 puts my RWAK one level above and here BH cannot help much. but on C3 i find BH doing better in adding space and texture. i call it synergy. lets say BH is adding more coloration while T1 is neutral and will do refine job only. So this is like coloration vs. purification.

 

for what is worth.


Edited by Gintaras - 7/20/13 at 2:06am
post #2627 of 3314
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

 

sorry for breaking in, i have both and in short this is difficult to say.

 

for C3 i prefer BH, it helps C3 open up since C3 amp section is weak and inferior. T1 truly shines with DAPs with good amp section because it can purify music and add background blackness and bring more rich texture and dynamics. to some extent i find BH and T1 being different amps and i love both for their own. T1 puts my RWAK one level above and here BH cannot help much. but on C3 i find BH doing better in adding space and texture. i call it synergy. lets say BH is adding more coloration while T1 is neutral and will do refine job only. So this is like coloration vs. purification.

 

for what is worth.

Gintaras! Long time no see:)

 

Yeah, I can agree with all that, haha. They are truly two different amps, and this quote "coloration vs. purification" is probably what separates the two.

 

We've been through this conversation before, so we don't need to repeat again, as to how I don't find it "pure" and all. etysmile.gif

 

Nevertheless, I still want to get Teke's opinion on it:)

 

"To each, their own."

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SkyBlue, great to hear from you, .... ah stop, you said Teke? here you go tongue.gif

 

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SkyBlue, great to hear from you, .... ah stop, you said Teke? here you go tongue.gif

 

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Edited by H20Fidelity - 7/20/13 at 3:16am
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Edited by ravager - 7/29/13 at 9:15am
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By the way I have some Shure SE215s with Comply tips, and the BH does a great job in taking the analytical presentation of the iems and making them more fun. I am experiencing no fatigue at all listening to My Bloody Valentine on shuffle. Lo gain, LF on fed by iPod. I have found that, other than the Senns, every phone I have plugged into this unit has benefitted in some way.
Edited by ravager - 7/20/13 at 2:05pm
post #2633 of 3314
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By the way I have some sure SE215s with Comply tips, and the BH does a great job in taking the analytical presentation of the iems and making them more fun. I am experiencing no fatigue at all listening to My Bloody Valentine on shuffle. Lo gain, LF on fed by iPod

I haven't heard the SE215 but I don't think they were analytical to start with. From my (compared to some people) limited experience with the BH, it pretty much amplifies with soundstage and detail as its' strong suit. Tonally it's more neutral. If your phone is analytical, it will stay analytical. But the LF and SF switches are "fun", not recommended for bright phones though. I'm not trying to take something away from your experience, just that maybe it's not the BH that stands for the fun. Do you experience any fatigue listening to your SE215 with comply tips straight out of your iPod unEQ-ed?

post #2634 of 3314
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Originally Posted by MoonYeol View Post

I haven't heard the SE215 but I don't think they were analytical to start with. From my (compared to some people) limited experience with the BH, it pretty much amplifies with soundstage and detail as its' strong suit. Tonally it's more neutral. If your phone is analytical, it will stay analytical. But the LF and SF switches are "fun", not recommended for bright phones though. I'm not trying to take something away from your experience, just that maybe it's not the BH that stands for the fun. Do you experience any fatigue listening to your SE215 with comply tips straight out of your iPod unEQ-ed?

Thanks for your input! I just listened to the new Daft Punk unamped from iPhone through the SE215 with comply T100 tips. It does have a different signature than the stock Shure foam pads. The bass is slightly more engaging, but at the expense of rolled off highs. But after amping with BH, the presentation seemed to come more alive. I do use LF almost by default and I think it does sound more "fun" (excuse my lack of a better technical term) than unamped.

Oh and I always use an unEQ'd source.
Edited by ravager - 7/20/13 at 4:51pm
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Yamaha HPH-200 are not a good match for C&C BH, I feel they sound better from the source alone.
post #2636 of 3314
Pretty soon I'm gonna match up a pair of phonak pfe 132 with the bh
post #2637 of 3314
So I just got my tralucent t1 and I'd have to say it's in a whole different class than the bh2.

The level of transparency and detail of it is something that completely floored me. Now don't get me wrong the bh2 is a good/great amp and works wonders for Prat but pure sonic qualities it falls short.

The BH2 is the more "musical" of the two where the BH2 nudges the music in areas. Most noticeably the bass... Where it causes it to stay a bit longer? Like it's more pronounced or has more weight to it (not added mid bass if that's what you're thinking) but lingers a tad longer.

The T1 is pretty neutral with world class transparency. The level of detail is amazing.

It's like: BH2 is a artist painting a scene with detail and his personal interpretation of what he sees.

While the T1 is a high powered dslr camera taking a photo of that exact same scene.

It depends on what you want: 1) one of a kind painting where it was open to interpretation or 2) a perfect detailed photo copy of the scene seen in its untouched glory
Edited by TekeRugburn - 7/22/13 at 1:13pm
post #2638 of 3314
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Originally Posted by TekeRugburn View Post

So I just got my tralucent t1 and I'd have to say it's in a whole different class than the bh2.

The level of transparency and detail of it is something that completely floored me. Now don't get me wrong the bh2 is a good/great amp and works wonders for Prat but pure sonic qualities it falls short.

The BH2 is the more "musical" of the two where the BH2 nudges the music is areas. Most noticeably the bass... Where it causes it to stay a bit longer? Like it's more pronounced or has more weight to it (not added mid bass if that's what you're thinking) but lingers a tad longer.

The T1 is pretty neutral with world class transparency. The level of detail is amazing.

It's like: BH2 is a artist painting a scene with detail and his personal interpretation of what he sees.

While the T1 is a high powered dslr camera taking a photo of that exact same scene.

It depends on what you want: 1) one of a kind painting where it was open to interpretation or 2) a perfect detailed photo copy of the scene seen in its untouched glory

pretty much reflects my experience too. they are two different however and i live happily with both, BH for C3 and T1 for Rwak gives me best of both worlds.
post #2639 of 3314

Does anyone or has anyone had the opportunity to audition the Bh vs the Fiio x3, I have read some opinions but i would like to read some more. I will be buying of these rigs in the next month or so, so any input would be appreciated.

post #2640 of 3314
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Does anyone or has anyone had the opportunity to audition the Bh vs the Fiio x3, I have read some opinions but i would like to read some more. I will be buying of these rigs in the next month or so, so any input would be appreciated.
The fiio x3 has the same amp as the fiio e17, it's actually a really good amp considering that its internal, but comparing it the the c&c bh it will lose every time.

Think of it like comparing the bh to a fiio e6
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