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post #256 of 2347
1/20/13 at 8:43am
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post


I just checked this and the included interconnect is actually pretty damn good.

Included cable : more airy, better detailing, good clarity, but packed up much earlier at loud volume.

This cable: Less airy, more concentrated sound, punchier bass, slightly less detail control, goes louder before distortion. biggrin.gif

I don't know if the stock cable provided is copper/silver? Where did you read that?

However, it certainly just gave my recently purchased cable a sure run.


I'm not a big cable believer, after market is basically for " Bling", As far as the stock cable, I'm almost certain it's a 6 inch Choseal cable..  And they are FANTASTIC, Little Dot's ship with them....They are hard to find in smaller 6 inch sizes but they are dirt cheap and built great, very flexable as well...

 

(Example)  http://www.amazon.com/Choseal-Q560A-3-5mm-Audio-Cable/dp/B00A7IYH5O/ref=sr_1_23?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1358699818&sr=1-23&keywords=choseal+3.5+male+to+3.5+male

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post #257 of 2347
1/20/13 at 2:39pm
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Originally Posted by Magicman74 View Post


I'm not a big cable believer, after market is basically for " Bling", As far as the stock cable, I'm almost certain it's a 6 inch Choseal cable..  And they are FANTASTIC, Little Dot's ship with them....They are hard to find in smaller 6 inch sizes but they are dirt cheap and built great, very flexable as well...

Thanks for that.

I can certainly hear differences across the precious metals used (copper / silver / combination) and thickness of a cable, gauge etc, there's enough variation there for to believe in changes. However, I do agree one get's to a point where you're being snake oiled. I don't mind spending $40 - $50 if the cable is dressed nicely, that's about far as I'll go.

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Originally Posted by MoGh3T0 View Post

I just can't listem to anything with SF off. It's a night and day difference! Actually it sounds more like stereo speakers than full size headpnones. I'm amazed.

Spent some more time with the sound field switch, which does work very well with the included stock 2.5mm (diameter) 'magic cable' I like what it does, great for ambient music, as you said surround sound comes to mind with wider stage, imaging was flying around all over the place and obvious micro detail. however because I like a flat signature, it feels like I'm cheating, and with some albums I still prefer it off actually. Still....it's a very cool feature, one I can see people using full time.

As for the cable it's staying on my rig, however I do find it a little bright with some tracks, due to my colder IEM's, and I can't max out my volume as high, but the detail and control is a step up from the previous one I was using.
Edited by H20Fidelity - 1/20/13 at 7:23pm
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post #258 of 2347
1/20/13 at 7:08pm

Reading this thread really makes me itch to buy one! However, I have a few quick questions:

 

  • Any ideas on how much of an improvement the BH would give to the sound of my AD900X? Or the AD700, if anyone has a pair lying around and can give some details. Am I wrong in thinking that amps and cans are very picky with each other (at least, in the sub $500 range)?
  • Should I get an LOD?
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post #259 of 2347
1/20/13 at 11:12pm

It's funny how quickly things change between love and hate.. Sometimes I love this site and sometimes when it has me buying 100 dollar amps I hate it lol..  Hopefully I receive it within the 2 week time frame and I'll update when I do

 

Pngwn, as for LOD's it's always preferable over going straight out of the headphone jack like I'll be forced to do.. You get a cleaner sound and if you are going to spend 100 dollars on an amp and over 100 on headphones why skimp on a cable if it will make it that much better?.. If this sounds even a bit less than people have made it out to be it'll still be noticeably better than the sound of your current output so match it up with an LOD and enjoy =)

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post #260 of 2347
1/20/13 at 11:19pm

Yeah, that's what I figured. Probably gonna pull the trigger on a FiiO LOD and the C&C BH amp after my paycheck comes in a few days. And I definitely feel you on the love hate on this site. I'm only just starting to settle in with my AD900X and surfing around on the forums has me looking at amps and genre specific headphones ...

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post #261 of 2347
1/20/13 at 11:30pm
Depends but for my low ohm heaphones they handle the bass more smoothly with the c&c bh
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post #262 of 2347
1/21/13 at 12:35am
I have heard a strong rumour here in China that C&C are about to launch a successor to the (now discontinued) TU portable tube amp. Does anyone know anything specific about this? Rumoured launch date is apparently February or March.....
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post #263 of 2347
1/21/13 at 12:58am
Interesting was about to order the bravo audio ocean. Benn eyeing it for amonth so i can try a tube amp.
Maybe ill wait now and get for the moment a can instead like the senn hd 25-1 ii as i can get it 50% off. Too many things i want.
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post #264 of 2347
1/21/13 at 3:12am

One week since I placed my order, still dead tracking page...

Tried both Singapore Post and 17track.


Edited by mtntwg - 1/21/13 at 3:16am
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post #265 of 2347
1/21/13 at 1:23pm

Okey dokey. I have maybe listened to this now amp for approx 2 hours and A/B`d with my P3 and Westone 4`s.

 

I retract my initial statement of after 1 track this amp is no worse than my P3. 

My new statement is, it is different and depending on what you are "used" to then that is why I am going to make comments on what I am "used to".

 

I am used to a laid back spacious sound with superb instrument separation and soundstage (P3)

The BH is not, it is more forward and condensed which I have quite liked for dance music but as I am not used to that I would need to brain train to that signature.

 

If I use the LF switch I think "Ahh that`s what I am use to" but it makes male vocals sibilant somewhat and seems to affect he high region. That is what I find with the LH switch, it also adds a touch to the highs.

 

I bought my P3 from Spud Harris (You will probably know who he is) with nearly the opamp configuration I have in my sig which I modified also with his help.

I have also purchased the "Top kit" from another well known Headfi guru but that didn`t compare to the setup I had.

 

With the above in mind, this amp was up against stiff competition and although does things well it just falls short for me. The only other amps I have had are the Fiio E5? and Gary`s Pav2. 

 

This is all based on an Ipod 2nd Gen Itouch, my W4`s (MTPC coppers didn`t fair well) and 2 LOD`s.

 

No doubt this is a capable amp and paired with a set of IEMS or cans that have good synergy then it will please quite a few. It has more power than you will ever need regardless of what you use imo.

 

I will keep this as a backup for my iBasso but if you can get a 2nd hand P3 (discontinued) or another rolling amp with my configuration then you are not far away from audio heaven.

 

Stu

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post #266 of 2347
1/21/13 at 2:47pm
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Hi Sinth, we're going to have to ask you to leave the thread now. tongue_smile.gif

That's cool dude, your opinion is respected and appreciated just like the others. May I ask how many hours your BH has done, 2 hours in total? Because if I remember rightly mine was a touch sibilant fresh out of the box (with the LF switch) but seemed to settle in after a day. It was one thing I kept an eye on before making the thread. I shall try again with my ipod touch 2G and see if it may be the pairing.
Edited by H20Fidelity - 1/21/13 at 4:29pm
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post #267 of 2347
1/21/13 at 10:21pm

With no switches except the high gain I find C&C BH better than my soundcard Asus STX with the dt880, I can probably change the opamps and then they are about the same. Good standpoint though as the Asus Stx is pretty good and closeto my O2(o2 is better ofc as neutral amp not always we want that), never had a portable device before so cant compare with much. Also the LF switch does give an effect but not much on bigger cans. It is more noticable on my iem yamaha eph-100.


Edited by Leonarfd - 1/22/13 at 1:07am
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post #268 of 2347
1/22/13 at 3:05am

Just arrived! Testing

 

ATH-WS55

LG Optimus 2x with Voodoo sound driver and Poweramp player

C&C BH

 

 

 

 

 

 

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post #269 of 2347
1/22/13 at 4:25am
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Someone's handy with the camera! wink.gif
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post #270 of 2347
1/22/13 at 4:44am
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Someone's handy with the camera! wink.gif

 

Yes, quite good indeed.  I love B&W photos.  Plus, I see the member has the K267 Tiesto, so I'm also thinking the bass boost on the amp isn't used.  Just a suspicion.

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