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btw i hate smartphones and carry old sony ericcson, my family is all equipped with iPhones and my friends laugh seeing me with old phone proudly sending sms. Still i love apple and have 5 macs at my home not counting ipads and time capsules and similar. I would choose iPad mini at all time over smartphone and c3 over any smartphone you name. I just agree with Geko that well implemented DAP will always be better.
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Originally Posted by Kamakahah View Post

So has anyone tried this beauty with a pair of orthos?

 

Orthos?

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Originally Posted by geko95gek View Post

 

Orthos?

 

 Orthodynamic headphones. (eg) HE-400 or 500, LCD-2, Fostex t50rp (and modded versions), etc. 

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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

btw i hate smartphones and carry old sony ericcson, my family is all equipped with iPhones and my friends laugh seeing me with old phone proudly sending sms. Still i love apple and have 5 macs at my home not counting ipads and time capsules and similar. I would choose iPad mini at all time over smartphone and c3 over any smartphone you name. I just agree with Geko that well implemented DAP will always be better.

Well, no one disagrees coz that's what a DAP is made for. Smartphone manufacturers have a lot to take into consideration, size of the phone, all the stuff inside that has nothing to do with audio and can just create more interference, battery life, especially with all the big touchscreens, constant internet use and connection to the mobile network. That's why they go for low-power sound chips. Ans you should take into account the stuff like the OS limitations and such. As far as the BH - I'm not complaining. I said it's a decent amp with small size and great battery life. I just question its performance which is no where near to some of the hype here that it's "magical" a couple of times better than E11 and the likes. It's like if I say that the B2 is two times better than your EB50 just because it has dual BA. Or that it's better than the Gr07 when in reality they just sound different but which is better comes down to personal preference and you won't see me making bold statements that one of them is few times better and just destroys the other like some of the comparisons here about BH and E11.

 

AS far as the BH driving orthos I seriously doubt that it will be capable even with a strong source. Definitely not in pair with the C3. Maybe the C&C XO2 will be up for that task.

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Originally Posted by Kamakahah View Post

 

 Orthodynamic headphones. (eg) HE-400 or 500, LCD-2, Fostex t50rp (and modded versions), etc. 

 

Ah right, sorry blank moment...

 

I have to agree with kova on this one, I doubt you will get sufficient power for those headphones. Unless you double amp of course.

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I also agree with Kova and Geko, BH might not pair well with demanding headphones. I consider BH most fit for IEMs and even then more demanding IEMs might have issues still. This is like with loudspeakers, amps can be great but one can and the other cannot drive demanding loudspeakers. So testing before buying is a must. For once however H20 gave a good proposition to buy BH and if not good re-sell it since this small amp has good reputation. Alternatively one can inquire with Pollychen who is good guy and is very responsive to emails, at least this was my experience with him. I say this not for you but as a general rule. Sometimes we all buy something that fails to impress us and selling away makes more sense. I remember selling Denon CD changer bought a month before... I lost some 40 euros on it but never looked back and the old chap who bought it from me was extremely happy... To each his own.

Btw Kova, i found my package sticker from Pollychen and saw that he made it 15$ for customs with USPS :-)

Perhaps you were unlucky because of DHL for which he needed quote higher value? Do not know how it works.

On your prior post agree. Still making comparisons is fine and some gear might be better than another. It goes same with cars and else. But the most important part is that this must sound good for your ears because if someone tells you this is fine amp but you do not like it there is no point in discussing. And selling this and moving on is the best way instead of keeping it and complaining which will not solve the problem.

Be well
Edited by Gintaras - 2/27/13 at 10:17am
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Well, that's probably one of the reasons as mine was $30 and the other is that it was DHL and the freaking morons at the customs seriously wanted me to pay VAT for the DHL's shipping even though I haven't paid for it and thus I have zero idea how much actually it cost pollychen. The guys at the DHL's HQ could only give me a shipping order info on which I had to pay like 20 bucks. It's safe to say that I literally snapped and said that will never happen. Honestly if I had the time and money I would sue the customs myself for all the liberties they think they have and the misinterpretation of the laws and regulations for their benefit

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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post

This is where things become interesting because C&C BH has two outputs with output 2 being a P -> B circuit. I'm not exactly sure why we would use this but it does offer me two different flavours. I have used my 32ohm Hybrids through both outputs and they sound evenly clean, it's just when using output 2 I may need the high gain switch engaged.

I already ordered this and I hope I'll get it in 2 weeks. I just want to ask about the above statement, cause it's a bit confusing. Aren't both outputs supposed to be the same? Is there any difference between them?

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Originally Posted by pablobaluba View Post

I already ordered this and I hope I'll get it in 2 weeks. I just want to ask about the above statement, cause it's a bit confusing. Aren't both outputs supposed to be the same? Is there any difference between them?

 

Output 2 has a slightly different sound signature. wink.gif

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Originally Posted by geko95gek View Post

 

Output 2 has a slightly different sound signature. wink.gif

Slightly different...that is putting it mildly. 

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Originally Posted by pablobaluba View Post

I already ordered this and I hope I'll get it in 2 weeks. I just want to ask about the above statement, cause it's a bit confusing. Aren't both outputs supposed to be the same? Is there any difference between them?

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Originally Posted by geko95gek View Post

Output 2 has a slightly different sound signature. wink.gif

This is for the Etymotic ER-4P IEM. Output 2 (P->B) allows them to transform to the B "Binaural" version, which is the uncompromised version of the Etymotic S "CD" IEM. That's about as short and sweet I can make it with the different Etymotic versions, ER-4P/B/S.
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Originally Posted by geko95gek View Post

My custom 3.5mm (wire length) 7N cryo treated Pure Copper LOD is ready apparently, should be send out to me today! biggrin.gif


I'd advise all of you in UK to use the same guy. Don't know if he does international.

This is the email he sent me on monday:

If you agree, I can construct especially for you a 7N pure copper LOD (OCC, cryo treated) less than 5 cm long,made of the same pure copper wire as listed,braided in 4.


I shall use the same connectors as pictured (Black dock connector -gold plated pins +Neutrik Rean 3.5mm jack-gold plated contacts).


- onest11


Yesterday he messaged me saying it was ready! L3000.gif
How much did that cost u cause I've been waiting for a simple ass copper LOD for 2 weeks from chris_himself and he never messages me back and he doesn't even know if it shipped WHAT THE HELL you know
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

H20, i believe BH is made for IEMs but full size helmets might be a tougher call for BH, as i could see from earlier comments some headphones pair fine but some just do not get through ... so i would say be careful and continue to inquire with people who use BH with headphones rather than IEMs.
No way dude I use full out cans at 50 ohms and it blows away most similarly priced iem's
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Originally Posted by mpawluk91 View Post


How much did that cost u cause I've been waiting for a simple ass copper LOD for 2 weeks from chris_himself and he never messages me back and he doesn't even know if it shipped WHAT THE HELL you know

 

Cost me £19.99 + £1 shipping (1st Class Standard).

 

This is the pics he took today before sending the LOD, which he made me in 1 day.

 

It's 4 strand 7N Pure Copper... cryo treated, iPod dock with gold pins and a Neutrik REAN 3.5mm jack. The length of the wire itself I requested to be no longer than 3.5mm. All soldered with a silver solder.

 

 

 

 

Hopefully it will be here tomorrow. biggrin.gif

 

If not, then Friday for sure.

 

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@H2O, btw I asked the guy Stelian who made this LOD for me and he said its ok for me to advertise him in this thread. So once he gives me an email address maybe you can put it in the OP for others to find easily?? wink.gif


Edited by Lifted Andreas - 2/28/13 at 3:21am
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

LOL Bassheads don't crave for low quality music presentation. It's the amount and impact that counts but also the texture and quality. You can have great earshaking bass that has very good texture and resolution. And in my opinion the BH with the LF switch on doesn't have better bass control than the E11. The E11 on EQ1 keeps it tight while the LF just boosts the bass slightly and adds a little bit if air to it, which actually makes it lose a bit of its focus - it's like boosting only the bass you can't actually hear around 10hz, which equals more air pushed and rattling of the headphones but not an actual huge improvement of the bass itself. I can tell you one thing that the LF switch doesn't do for sure and that's improving the bass texture and resolution. Again I'm not bashing on the BH just stating my experience

 

THIS x10!

 

Kova and I seem to be on the same wavelength here :) Boomy singlenote bass is boring, but it doesn't have to mean "Beats bass quantity" has to sound boomy just because of the sheer amount of bass, ok generally the more bass the boomier it gets but some headphones sound boomy already with 5dB boost while others can sound nice despite 10dB boost. Well as usual it's also the DAC, amp pairing, synergy playing a big role except the quality of the driver and the cup design, dampening used etc for the headphone.

 

For me the keywords are exactly like kova stated; impact, texture and I'd say control. All of which M-Audio Q40 does well at quantity vs quality wise at the price point why I love these. :)


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 2/27/13 at 3:24pm
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