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post #1141 of 3303

Joseph, now I see where you coming from. Right you are Sir L3000.gif

 

what you mean is running C3 via USB DAC into amp into IEMs? that would be incredible solution but two issues: bulky and expensive. besides I am not sure if C3 can work as digital transport because powering USB might lock unit into transfer mode which will prevent you from accessing its playback software.

 

in fact if someone wants to go snobbish he can try running DAP into Meridian USB mini DAC into amp and from it into proper IEMs. however i think this brings us to madness of true audiophiles who use separate power supplies, shielders, sound optimisers and god know what else. i still marvel at my hifi dealer who was trying to push with a discount a 6k $ power conditioner unit onto me. i politely turned him down.

 

actually if it's possible to turn C3 into pure digital transport then I can buy Meridian USB mini DAC and Leckerton UHA6MkII and this combo will beat any Ibasso by a lightmile deadhorse.gif


Edited by Gintaras - 2/27/13 at 8:01am
post #1142 of 3303

No, the C3 can't be use as a transport, so no way to connect DACs to it let alone USB DACs

post #1143 of 3303
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

LOL again! I know very well what is what. I was referring to some of the opinions here about the magical BH's switches and how much the bass is improved in quality. I just didn't want to point out names and quote opinions.

 

LOL!

 

This is another perfect example on how we perceive the sounds differently. wink.gif

post #1144 of 3303
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No, the C3 can't be use as a transport, so no way to connect DACs to it let alone USB DACs

 

but what DAP gives you a possibility to bypass internal DAC and amp? imagine running digital signal through meridian mini DAC and leckerton, that can be a killer of all high-end players.

 

i am a believer in high-end makers and this is why i took my MF EB50 on spot without a listen... now when i see and read about new Meridian mini DAC i feel like i want it so much but do not know into what i plug it? please no dirty jokes here biggrin.gif

post #1145 of 3303

Well there are a handful of devices that support DACs and even less that support USB DACs. Newer android phones like the Galaxy S3 support a bunch of USB DACs but not all. So even if a device has the support it doesn't mean that it will support every DAC, so it still might not support the Meridian. Anyway most pure DAPs support only optical/coaxial out

post #1146 of 3303

so no choice boys... back to C3+BH combo, listening right to it now and it makes me wonder what you find not so good for you. perhaps a good suggestion could be to stop using Galaxy and similar bogus gear and turn to a proper DAP? i find plentiful of musical information from my combo and music flows seemlessly atsmile.gif

post #1147 of 3303
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

so no choice boys... back to C3+BH combo, listening right to it now and it makes me wonder what you find not so good for you. perhaps a good suggestion could be to stop using Galaxy and similar bogus gear and turn to a proper DAP? i find plentiful of musical information from my combo and music flows seemlessly atsmile.gif

LOL again. The galaxy s has a wolfson DAC and is pretty good DAP on its own - just different from the C3. 

post #1148 of 3303
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

LOL again. The galaxy s has a wolfson DAC and is pretty good DAP on its own - just different from the C3. 

 

then why all audiophiles are not lining up for Galaxy and suffer with Colorfly and else similar DAPs? collective masochism?

 

you know Dac Magic and Rega DAC both got Wolfson chips ... but somehow people prefer Rega over DacMagic by a wide margin. perhaps they are mad tongue.gif

 

oh, forgot.... LoL


Edited by Gintaras - 2/27/13 at 8:29am
post #1149 of 3303
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LOL again. The galaxy s has a wolfson DAC and is pretty good DAP on its own - just different from the C3. 

 

 I don't know if the galaxy 1 just happened to get lucky, but I own a Galaxy s2 and the DAC is a total P.O.S. 

So much so that there are numerous threads of people wanting to be able to usb out to an external DAC. Unfortunately that option isn't available unless you have a S3. Oh well... I'm gonna upgrade when the new S4 comes out soon. Launch announce date is march 14th, woot!

post #1150 of 3303
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 I don't know if the galaxy 1 just happened to get lucky, but I own a Galaxy s2 and the DAC is a total P.O.S. 

So much so that there are numerous threads of people wanting to be able to usb out to an external DAC. Unfortunately that option isn't available unless you have a S3. Oh well... I'm gonna upgrade when the new S4 comes out soon. Launch announce date is march 14th, woot!

 

You're confusing Galaxy S2 with Galaxy S.

 

Galaxy S = Wolfson DAC. GOOD!

 

Galaxy S2 = Yamaha DAC. BAD!!

 

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Either way, I see using a phone as the main DAP as not being serious about your music. If you wanna be a real audiophile get a dedicated DAP!

post #1151 of 3303

Kam, besides a good DAC chip they need a good implementation of many things. i cannot believe a smartphone player will sound as good as dedicated standalone DAP no matter chip.

only some Apple users claim that iPhone 4s sounds better than iPod Touch ... perhaps because iPod is such a sh*t that even smartphone can better? o2smile.gif

post #1152 of 3303
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You're confusing Galaxy S2 with Galaxy S.

 

Galaxy S = Wolfson DAC. GOOD!

 

Galaxy S2 = Yamaha DAC. BAD!!

 

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Either way, I see using a phone as the main DAP as not being serious about your music. If you wanna be a real audiophile get a dedicated DAP!

 

Not confused, just wasn't sure what DAC was in the galaxy s2. Thus why I said...

 

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 "I don't know if the galaxy 1 just happened to get lucky, but I own a Galaxy s2 and the DAC is a total P.O.S. "

 

...and mention the original galaxy, the one that you own. Was just throwing out my take on a similar product that I own.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

Kam, besides a good DAC chip they need a good implementation of many things. i cannot believe a smartphone player will sound as good as dedicated standalone DAP no matter chip.

only some Apple users claim that iPhone 4s sounds better than iPod Touch ... perhaps because iPod is such a sh*t that even smartphone can better? o2smile.gif

 

Of course. Otherwise stand-alone players wouldn't exist at all. There wouldn't be much of a market if the current tech made phones equally as good. In the future...hopefully they will.


Edited by Kamakahah - 2/27/13 at 8:44am
post #1153 of 3303
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

 

then why all audiophiles are not lining up for Galaxy and suffer with Colorfly and else similar DAPs? collective masochism?

 

you know Dac Magic and Rega DAC both got Wolfson chips ... but somehow people prefer Rega over DacMagic by a wide margin. perhaps they are mad tongue.gif

 

oh, forgot.... LoL

Well, you know it's all about implementation. As far as why some people get the C3 is because it's good and most of all cheap. The Galaxy S1 was pretty popular at the time (especially with the release of Voodoo sound) but it's a smartphone and people upgrade their phones often - for instance I've had my S1 for close to 3 years now ans most people upgrade after their 1 or 2-year contract expires and hope for a decent sound but it's not their main requirement. And let's be honest the C3 costs a hundred bucks while a Galaxy S1 and Galaxy S3 will cost you respectively $300+ and $550+ depending on where you live without a contract. 

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Originally Posted by Kamakahah View Post

 

 I don't know if the galaxy 1 just happened to get lucky, but I own a Galaxy s2 and the DAC is a total P.O.S. 

So much so that there are numerous threads of people wanting to be able to usb out to an external DAC. Unfortunately that option isn't available unless you have a S3. Oh well... I'm gonna upgrade when the new S4 comes out soon. Launch announce date is march 14th, woot!

It's not that the S1 was lucky or the yamaha DAC in the S2 is that bad but its implementation is very sub-par without decent EMI shielding and with the atrocious circa 50 ohm output impedance which pretty much makes it a bad choice for any iem.

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Originally Posted by geko95gek View Post

 

Either way, I see using a phone as the main DAP as not being serious about your music. If you wanna be a real audiophile get a dedicated DAP!

Well, it's not that much about seriousness as much as the portability of having an all-in-one device and the benefits of a smartphone - constant internet connection, connection to clouds, downloading of music on the go, managing playlists, tags and such. It does have its strong sides. 


Edited by kova4a - 2/27/13 at 8:56am
post #1154 of 3303
Kova, i got c3 and BH because they were so good, price was not the issue but i hate overpaying if expensive player will sound only a tiny bit better. So far 200$ no tears and c3+BH makes me smile gladly everyday. I admit dx100 is great player and i inquired with them about price but i am not sure if i need to pay so much. So far i am glad that i bumped into head-fi and that i met H20 who introduced me to portable nirvanna without me losing my shirt. I am glad BH saved me pretty vs. Leckerton i was planning before. This why i do not understand your complain about BH. You cannot complain about Bmw5 not being Aston Martin which is my favorite car :-)
Edited by Gintaras - 2/27/13 at 9:14am
post #1155 of 3303

So has anyone tried this beauty with a pair of orthos?

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