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post #1126 of 2406
2/27/13 at 6:01am
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Lol yes I know that Gintaras I am not fond of EQ I understand the concept of pairing IEM and DAP, I was only offering it as an option. A last resort.

How did the BH pair with the S9 out of curiosity? No EQ ...... Flat
Edited by H20Fidelity - 2/27/13 at 6:05am
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post #1127 of 2406
2/27/13 at 6:07am

S9 pairs Ok with BH EQ flat. i just find Cowon being flatter no matter its bassy signature but sound stage is congested and black space disappears even more. I find more distortion in sound overall. Overall it sounds warmer but lush and congested to my ear. I was even surprised about that. My conclusion was that S9 does not benefit much from BH because amp does only stronger signal but it does not change sound signature unless there is also a DAC on board.


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post #1128 of 2406
2/27/13 at 6:14am
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S9 pairs Ok with BH EQ flat. i just find Cowon being flatter no matter its bassy signature but sound stage is congested and black space disappears even more. I find more distortion in sound overall. Overall it sounds warmer but lush and congested to my ear. I was even surprised about that. My conclusion was that S9 does not benefit much from BH because amp does only stronger signal but it does not change sound signature unless there is also a DAC on board.

I never had good results amping my old S9 with E11 either. Just didn't play ball properly and became to warm going from memory that is.

@RPG I think if you did decide to go ahead and try your luck you could move it fairly easily if it wasn't for you on the boards.
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post #1129 of 2406
2/27/13 at 6:51am
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Where are they mate? I'll add them. Sorry I haven't been following the thread.

What are thoughts geko, are you satisfied with the bass quantity of BH coming from E11 with headphones?

 

Well, you did comment when I posted the pics and impressions lol. They are on page 64. wink.gif

 

Pics:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/644363/c-c-bh-portable-headphone-amp-80-hours-from-a-single-charge-buyer-review/930#post_9190380

 

Impressions:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/644363/c-c-bh-portable-headphone-amp-80-hours-from-a-single-charge-buyer-review/945#post_9190775

 

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Well I was disappointed with the bass at first, but then I realized that there isn't much less of it than on FiiO E11 EQ1. Also it's much more controlled and somehow has more air. If that makes sense. I'm running my JVC HA-S500 on Low Gain + LF on and it sounds wonderful, if I sometimes need a bit of extra space and wideness to the sound I just flick the SF switch in my pocket. 

 

Its like an SRS WOW effect! biggrin.gif

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post #1130 of 2406
2/27/13 at 7:02am
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Yeah I remember that geko, I wasn't sure if there was more coming. I shall add them In the morning as I'm on a mobile device. If you want a pic added to the album (second post) grab one with your rig!
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post #1131 of 2406
2/27/13 at 7:13am
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Yeah I remember that geko, I wasn't sure if there was more coming. I shall add them In the morning as I'm on a mobile device. If you want a pic added to the album (second post) grab one with your rig!

 

I probably will add some more, once I finalized them in my brain lol

 

Looking forward to seeing the link in the first post mate, also I'll take a pic of my BH rig on Friday when I get my custom Pure Copper LOD which was sent out today. biggrin.gif

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post #1132 of 2406
2/27/13 at 7:22am

Geko, yes, same happens when you step up from bogus hifi receiver to a proper amp, you wonder what happens because earthshaking rough bass is being replaced by well defined detail airy bass. i never could understand why bassheads crave for so low quality music presentation and only pay attention to decibels... beyond me.

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post #1133 of 2406
2/27/13 at 7:34am

What are you all using to connect the c3 to the BH? I'm usually not a believer in amping without LOD but I'm going to let my ears decide on this one.

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post #1134 of 2406
2/27/13 at 7:41am
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What are you all using to connect the c3 to the BH? I'm usually not a believer in amping without LOD but I'm going to let my ears decide on this one.

 

Something like this...

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HIFI-cable-3-5mm-MALE-MALE-Stereo-Audio-Cable-Plug-yongshen-3-5-stereo-cable-/261014236655?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc5a92def

 

 

Or this...

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pailiccs-Baolong-Hifi-cable-3-5mm-MALE-MALE-Stereo-Audio-Cable-MP3-PC-/261129231755?pt=US_Personal_CD_Players&hash=item3ccc83dd8b

 

 

If I was you I would choose the latter. wink.gif


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post #1135 of 2406
2/27/13 at 7:42am
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Geko, yes, same happens when you step up from bogus hifi receiver to a proper amp, you wonder what happens because earthshaking rough bass is being replaced by well defined detail airy bass. i never could understand why bassheads crave for so low quality music presentation and only pay attention to decibels... beyond me.

LOL Bassheads don't crave for low quality music presentation. It's the amount and impact that counts but also the texture and quality. You can have great earshaking bass that has very good texture and resolution. And in my opinion the BH with the LF switch on doesn't have better bass control than the E11. The E11 on EQ1 keeps it tight while the LF just boosts the bass slightly and adds a little bit if air to it, which actually makes it lose a bit of its focus - it's like boosting only the bass you can't actually hear around 10hz, which equals more air pushed and rattling of the headphones but not an actual huge improvement of the bass itself. I can tell you one thing that the LF switch doesn't do for sure and that's improving the bass texture and resolution. Again I'm not bashing on the BH just stating my experience

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post #1136 of 2406
2/27/13 at 7:43am

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Edited by Gintaras - 2/27/13 at 8:03am
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post #1137 of 2406
2/27/13 at 7:45am

Right. If DAp has true LOD you can bypass the amp. With 3.5 to 3.5 you're basically amping the amp.. technically shouldn't affect the sound quality. But a lot of people have said otherwise. So I was just asking what 3.5mm m to m you guys were using that is good quality.

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post #1138 of 2406
2/27/13 at 7:52am

Kova, i believe you confuse amp and dac... amp will not change sound signature and won't redefine bass. if your source renders bass well then your amp will do the job. if your source is not good your amp will not help unless you run your source through DAC. sorry i am not knowledgeable about portable audio but i know well how this works with high-end equipment. this is why some hardcore audiophiles buy separate DAC and CD transport and power unit instead of purchasing single CDP unit. i am not so mad so i stick to Naim CDX2. but if i had enough money to afford truly high-end solutions i would surely taken MBL DAC and transport or Acoustic Arts tube DAC and transport tongue_smile.gif

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post #1139 of 2406
2/27/13 at 7:53am
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Sorry, did not read your prior post. I use this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pailiccs-Baolong-Hifi-cable-3-5mm-MALE-to-MALE-Stereo-Audio-Cable-for-MP3-PC-/261129231755?pt=US_Personal_CD_Players&hash=item3ccc83dd8b

 

Lol dude, I already answered him above... chill. wink.gif

 

With pictures! biggrin.gif

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post #1140 of 2406
2/27/13 at 7:56am
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Kova, i believe you confuse amp and dac... amp will not change sound signature and won't redefine bass. if your source renders bass well then your amp will do the job. if your source is not good your amp will not help unless you run your source through DAC. sorry i am not knowledgeable about portable audio but i know well how this works with high-end equipment. this is why some hardcore audiophiles buy separate DAC and CD transport and power unit instead of purchasing single CDP unit. i am not so mad so i stick to Naim CDX2. but if i had enough money to afford truly high-end solutions i would surely taken MBL DAC and transport or Acoustic Arts tube DAC and transport tongue_smile.gif

LOL again! I know very well what is what. I was referring to some of the opinions here about the magical BH's switches and how much the bass is improved in quality. I just didn't want to point out names and quote opinions.

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