Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Headphones (full-size) › Sennheiser HD 558 vs. the HD 598
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Sennheiser HD 558 vs. the HD 598 - Page 3

post #31 of 109
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cthoeprrrey View Post

I would want to settle for these and save some money because I got a good deal for them.

Brick&Mortar Retail stores sell the HD558 for more than 170€, Online retailers sell it for 150€ and I got a 130€ special!

 

The 598's are 1.42x the price so are you saying they're worth my money compared to the sound of the HD558?

Am I getting 70% of the sound of the HD598's for 70% of the price, is that fair enough?

 

I'm not an audio fanatic but I may come back with more serious intentions on getting a GREAT audio setup in the future.

For now I want to balance my budgets to spend on things because I don't have a fixed income.

 

Who would you guys be suggesting the HD558 for?

Just remove the black rubber tape from inside the cups of the HD558, it makes the HD558 more open.

Also give the HD558 sometime to break in, need to leave them plugged in over night (a few times), maybe with the volume a little higher then normal.

Cover them with something like a blanket, to block the noise.

post #32 of 109
Quote:
Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post

Just remove the black rubber tape from inside the cups of the HD558, it makes the HD558 more open.

Also give the HD558 sometime to break in, need to leave them plugged in over night (a few times), maybe with the volume a little higher then normal.

Cover them with something like a blanket, to block the noise.

about the modding, i removed the black foam inside and also removed the lining in the earcups. they really improved the sound and put it at about 97% of the HD598 (HD598 still had slightly better mids, very slightly better clarity and slightly better soundstage and a very slightly cleaner bass, though im not sure how the HD598 would sound like if i removed the lining in the earcup, since that does clear the sound up a little)

post #33 of 109

Do not bother to spend more on hd558/598, all hd5*8 series share same drivers. If you can do moding just remove outside plastics on hd518 and you will have identical even better headphone then 598. Of course bass will be not as punchier, you also can add DIY metal grills.

see this thread

http://www.head-fi.org/t/609634/hd-518-teardown-with-a-shocking-twist

 

Here what I have done: this is 558

 

on hd518 it will be slightly different story but figure it out is easy I guess :)

 

even better thing is that insides hd518 and 598 are same see pictures on headfonia.com


Edited by Lumos - 4/14/13 at 10:36am
post #34 of 109
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumos View Post

Do not bother to spend more on hd558/598, all hd5*8 series share same drivers. If you can do moding just remove outside plastics on hd518 and you will have identical even better headphone then 598. Of course bass will be not as punchier, you also can add DIY metal grills.

see this thread

http://www.head-fi.org/t/609634/hd-518-teardown-with-a-shocking-twist

 

Here what I have done: this is 558

 

on hd518 it will be slightly different story but figure it out is easy I guess :)

 

even better thing is that insides hd518 and 598 are same see pictures on headfonia.com

add on: removing the silver ring helps also imo

post #35 of 109
Quote:
Originally Posted by streetdragon View Post

add on: removing the silver ring helps also imo


mmm... I am not sure, can you link me recording where difference is noticeable? I will try then, I have not spend many time to compare with it or without it... but I could not hear difference when I tried :)

post #36 of 109
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumos View Post


mmm... I am not sure, can you link me recording where difference is noticeable? I will try then, I have not spend many time to compare with it or without it... but I could not hear difference when I tried :)

well it only affects the soundstage a little bit, so it might be hard to noticeredface.gif

post #37 of 109

Ah OK, I have to try it again...

 

By the way I had this crazy idea to put these drivers on hd600 frame, I do not know how it will work but one day I have to try :D

post #38 of 109
I got my "refurbished" HD 558s for $105 USD from Amazon. They are occasionally available for about $99. They are truly "good as new" and needed a bit of burn in but now sound marvelous. The 598s cost about $170 refurbished. I wanted the 598s but didn't want to spend the additional money, especially with the mod available. I don't doubt that the 598s may be more refined in some way, but I have never regretted my choice. By the way the refurb 518s are on sale at Amazon for $72. Good luck in your search!
post #39 of 109
Ive been enjoying my "refurbished" 558s for the past few days. I ordered them 2 weeks ago from Rakuten for $92.

Personally, I agree they are a bassier, less airy version of the 598, but I do not think they are "less refined." They just sound different, not worse. I will not mod mine - I prefer them to the 598s lightweight sound.
post #40 of 109
Quote:
Originally Posted by palmfish View Post

Ive been enjoying my "refurbished" 558s for the past few days. I ordered them 2 weeks ago from Rakuten for $92.

Personally, I agree they are a bassier, less airy version of the 598, but I do not think they are "less refined." They just sound different, not worse. I will not mod mine - I prefer them to the 598s lightweight sound.

I do personally miss the bass of the stock HD558, it's a lot more solid and punchy.

post #41 of 109

Just received the HD 558 today. It has the same rich, warm sound as the Sennheiser Momentum, except airier and with a wider soundstage. An excellent and comfortable headphone. The Momentum has a slightly more sparkling clear sound. I hesitate to say much more because one is an open headphone and the other is closed, and they serve different purposes.

post #42 of 109
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shazb0t View Post

I would save for the 558 over the 518.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by streetdragon View Post

i would save for the HD598 over the HD558 if i was given the option to turn back time...redface.gif

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shazb0t View Post

 

And you would save for the HD600 over the HD598.

 

And I would save for a pair of ears I had 25 years ago... [sigh]

post #43 of 109

About that, I don't regret it anymore actually. Modding has practically given me a HD598. It's just the squishy worn out earpads that are causing the sonic differences and a thicker, boomier, possibly muddier sound.
But yes, our ears are the most valuable thing to save.

post #44 of 109

Well, I think there is more to it then the little foam at the back of the 558s. The rear of the cup is all different in the way air escapes. Plus, I don't think the plastic of the cabinets is the same in both models. Plastic do have resonance frequency that can influence the overall quality of sound.

post #45 of 109
Quote:
Originally Posted by phaenius View Post
 

Well, I think there is more to it then the little foam at the back of the 558s. The rear of the cup is all different in the way air escapes. Plus, I don't think the plastic of the cabinets is the same in both models. Plastic do have resonance frequency that can influence the overall quality of sound.

I did more than just the foam. I removed the cloth grill and put a little bit of damping at the center and also removed the lining next to the earpad. It may not be 100% the same, but from A/Bi'ing i'm pretty sure that other than the earpads being worn out it is about 98-99% the same. The shquishy worn out earpads are in fact the biggest single difference between the shop HD598 and my modded HD558.

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Headphones (full-size)
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Headphones (full-size) › Sennheiser HD 558 vs. the HD 598