Cable characteristics?

A quick search in the sound science subforum would have brought the answer

take a look at this http://www.head-fi.org/t/356063/cables

Concerning amp/dac and warmness it is not a proper way to equalize your headphones into the desired sound, use EQ, an amp or DAC should be as transparent as possible, meaning complete flat eq from 20hz to 20khz.

But if you're looking for warmness go for tubes, they put an euphonic distortion said to be warm, also known as tube sound.

The issue isn't the cable that's just it, that's why I linked the thread on cables, the only two possible causes to your issue is a bad construction of your cable or your headphones. It's more  likely to be the second, just apply EQ and your problem will be solved.

PS : I don't care about what people said afterwards in the thread I linked, op's post was right.

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Originally Posted by Folex 

Have you actually read that thread? It's just people bickering. One side is trying to justify why they wasted all their money on cables and the other side is trolling them. The issue I've had is I've tried Mogami mini quad and a telephone wire and both times it made the highs fatiguing. I don't know if it lessens the bass or heightened the highs. In any case I need to find a material that won't do this.

Unfortunately, then you may still be in the wrong forum and unlikely to get any answers here that tell you what you want to hear, as without filters in a cable it will have no characteristic sound.

You'll want to avoid cable that is microphonic - that is, makes noise when you touch it.  But all decent cable already avoids that.

AWG makes a difference only on much longer runs than any headphone cable should be (and would not change sound, just increase resistance and reduce signal power)  - anything over 36awg should be sufficient - 26-24awg are common. 

solid core vs. stranded makes no difference in sound, but makes a big difference in cable flexibility.

copper vs. silver makes no difference in sound. 

Thus far, the only things demonstrably able to affect sound in a headphone or speaker are the resistance/capacitance/inductance of a cable. And you have to work really hard to get enough of any of them to affect the sound. Normal cable constructions do not throw any of these so far out of wack as to be audible or even measurable. 

What headphones, what amp?

Of course if you have a long run of very thin wire to some 16 ohm nominal IEMs, you could change the balance from the cable having too much resistance.  A highly-capacitive cable with a marginally (un)stable amp can be bad news.

If you already tried something no-nonsense that should work like Mogamii mini quad, and you're convinced you heard something you didn't like, there's not much to say here.  That should have worked.  Maybe your headphones are just bright for you?

Honestly, that's very odd. I cannot come up with anything to explain it. There is no reason I can think of that a recable would cause that - but i believe you that it is happening. Maybe going to dual entry there was a change/port in the internal space in the earphone cups that changed some resonances? 

Unfortunately, without a level matched side by side or consistent measurements (impossible in this instance) it's hard to know what might be going on. 

Have you tried going back to the original cable to verify that it reduces fatigue?  I wonder if you had an oxidation issue or some other attenuation of high frequencies that is removed with the new cabling.

Simply stated, Sound Science forum goers are going to suggest that recabling to change sound is a bit backwards.  The transducer and/or EQ should be the only component significantly coloring the sound unless you have colored gear to begin with, i.e. tubey amps, boutique designs with unique distortion artifacts etc.
 

I feel this question belongs in the cables forum. I'm afraid it might turn into another pointless argument. The discussion of cable characteristics and their affect on sound can be found in plenty of forums (some locked) already.

Surely a sporadic quantum alignment leading to the crystallization of super high capacitance silver molecules is the culprit here. Don't ask me to explain it though. It's too complicated. You won't get it.