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post #16 of 26
1/14/13 at 11:02pm
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I'm on the same boat as you and as of now I'm leaning towards the DT880's. The reason being mainly for the comfort that I liked from my previous headphones (DT770) and they are known for their very good mids. What turned me off about the AKG's was the bumpy headband and the huge earpads that some people find irritating but from what I hear they are good for gaming and classical music. They also have a detachable cable.

 

As for the Pro vs Premiums the Pro's have a tighter clamp which people claim you can loosen up over time and they come with a coiled cable. The Premiums on the other hand have a looser clamp and straight cable with different aesthetics. From what I have read the 250 vs 600 ohm sound difference is debatable but I personally want the 250's for the ease of driving and the price difference.


Thank you for your input! This is a tough choice indeed. So the DT's excell at mids, and akg might have better sound stage?

 

I'm also noticing a lot of people saying the AKG needs to be plugged into a good amp ect.. to get the great quality sound. Will my Asus XOnar DX audio card not suffice? I wonder if Beyers would be better because of this?

 

I only wish major retailers near me had these brand so I could see for myself.


Edited by clemxii - 1/14/13 at 11:19pm
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post #17 of 26
1/14/13 at 11:33pm
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Thank you for your input! This is a tough choice indeed. So the DT's excell at mids, and akg might have better sound stage?

 

I only wish major retailers near me had these brand so I could see for myself.

I think the reason the AKG's have a bigger sound stage is that they are fully open whereas the 880's are Semi-Open. From what I have read the AKG 701/2's feel as if you can hear the detailed separation of instruments which is probably why they are said to be good for competitive gaming and classical music but they don't have strong bass while it's there it just isn't as strong as the 880's. Again, I haven't tried either of these headphones.. I'm just repeating what I read after days of reading posts on this forum.

 

I also wish we had stores to audition higher end headphones, we probably wouldn't have half the threads asking questions on this forum. Just have to hope what you read meets your expectations and take a gamble.


Edited by soundisee - 1/14/13 at 11:36pm
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post #18 of 26
1/15/13 at 5:18am
Can you say a bit more about why you did not Like the ad-900?
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post #19 of 26
1/15/13 at 12:23pm
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Can you say a bit more about why you did not Like the ad-900?

When I would watch movies, shows and even some music, it just felt really flat. The bass was very odd from what I'm used too. It definitely wasn't what I was thinking they were going to be.

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post #20 of 26
1/15/13 at 12:50pm
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When I would watch movies, shows and even some music, it just felt really flat. The bass was very odd from what I'm used too. It definitely wasn't what I was thinking they were going to be.

So you want more 'musicality and naturalness' (hopefully you get what I mean) and more bass?

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post #21 of 26
1/15/13 at 1:22pm
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So you want more 'musicality and naturalness' (hopefully you get what I mean) and more bass?

Pretty much. Although the sound stage was great for my gaming, I felt I needed something bit more balanced. So I'm sort of at a toss up between AKG and Beyer. And I'm not sure of AKG is worth it since many have told me you need a good amp ect.. and I'll be using a direct plug in to my Asus Xonar DX

 

I'm looking at these:

 

 

"My main issue is which brand, and which price category.

 

For a $200 and lower range I'm looking at either: Beyer 440 Premium vs. AKG 601

 

For $200+ I was looking at either: AKG K702 vs. Beyer Dynamic DT880(pro version) *not sure of premium version is different?*

 

I'm looking for my first phones that I want to keep for a long time, to do gaming (sound stage and knowing where things are, is important), music (all types) and movies. It will be plugged into my Asus Xonar DX audio card. Taking these into consideration, is the $200+ AKG/Beyer going to be worth it? And between the two brands, from anyones personal opinion, what would suit me better or what you prefer better."


Edited by clemxii - 1/15/13 at 1:23pm
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post #22 of 26
1/15/13 at 1:50pm

the dt-880 is not that good for gaming, according to MLE's guide. Also, I personally don't find the dt-880 satisfying enough, the midrange is kind of lacking. In short, my HE-500 is so much more musical and satisfying, and I just can't settle with the dt-880 or the k702 for that matter. If I had to choose I'd go with the k702, but I don't think they would impress you THAT much more than the ad-900.

 

You could look into the sennheiser hd600/650 also.

 

I'd say, that your issue calls for a hifiman HE-400, but that is 400 dollars, and they def benefit from a decent amp. For the price they are awesome, though. Personally I find that they were the first phones to give me a taste of 'high-end' when I got to use them with a decent tube amp.

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post #23 of 26
1/15/13 at 5:34pm
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I'd say, that your issue calls for a hifiman HE-400, but that is 400 dollars, and they def benefit from a decent amp. For the price they are awesome, though. Personally I find that they were the first phones to give me a taste of 'high-end' when I got to use them with a decent tube amp.

I try not to promote the HE-400 because I'm biased but the HE-400 is right up the OP's alley. Awesome bass, musical character, and it's very easy to drive.

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post #24 of 26
1/15/13 at 11:14pm

Very easy to drive is relative. It scales very well with a proper amp, even better or at least as good as my dt-880.

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post #25 of 26
1/16/13 at 4:43pm
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Very easy to drive is relative. It scales very well with a proper amp, even better or at least as good as my dt-880.

It does scale up until about the $500 price range but you would get bad value buying an expensive amp.

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post #26 of 26
1/17/13 at 12:08am
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It does scale up until about the $500 price range but you would get bad value buying an expensive amp.


True. But that is not what I consider easy to drive...

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