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post #16 of 27
1/2/13 at 9:33am
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TW,

Thanks for your reply.

 

The sq I'm getting ,as I posted above,has a deeper base..SN-03397 ,slight dip??..frequency graph dated 9/4/2012

The pair I borrowed,{still have } ,and after an A-B comparison,has a definete increase in treble-so,not sure if its a peak or not..SN-2xxx

 

Both pair sound excellent..to MY ears,with the type of music I listen to-I prefer the one with the deeper bass,also,they give me a tighter fit=more comfortable.

 

Why would you believe they "fudged "the graph..?

If  needed,I can take picture of the graph ,that came with the headphones dated 9/4/2012..I question this date..as I am the 3rd owner...?? ,so,maybe there is ,some fudging going on??

Anyway,I'm totally satisfied with my latest addition,and may??? sell the HE-6's,emo amp,& all the cables & adapters I currently have for them.

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post #17 of 27
1/2/13 at 10:02am

Hi Mike,

just wanted to add and maybe somebody else might benefit from readying:

 

Sennheiser will provide graph for any HD800, link on their site to request, date is just when the most recent copy was mailed out regardless of prior owners. 

 

I am guessing they mail out as often  as requested. 

 

Question about  fudging, Can not answer that but why fudge something that can be measured?

 

 

Happy Listening!

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post #18 of 27
1/2/13 at 12:14pm
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Hi Sike,

 

Thanks for the correction about the graph..Yes,it seems a little odd that Sennheiser would do any fudging...good point.

Another thing..anyone needing a stock,HD800 Sennheiser cable,they are in stock,at sennheiser,price= $172.71 + shipping

Not sure how they calculated that price??

 

Sike,I will call sennheiser back ,to see if I can get an excat date on the manufacturing of my HD800..just info ,thought might want o know-OK?

 

Again,many ,many thanks for a great transaction.

 

Mike

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post #19 of 27
1/2/13 at 12:52pm

I don't actually believe that, sorry if I gave that impression.  It was tongue in cheek because some people have previously suggested that it's cheaper to send out fudged graphs rather than change their manufacturing process due to customer feedback that the hd800s have harsh treble.

 

I wish I could find the link, but there have been some pretty funny blind tests where if you show some audiophiles a frequency response graph of a speaker, they will tell you they hear what they see in the graph.  You can play the same speakers showing them a different graph and they will claim they hear the differences in graphs.

 

Again, I don't want to suggest that sennheiser is actually doing this!  I rather like my hd800s and I personally don't have a problem with harsh treble at all.  

 

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Why would you believe they "fudged "the graph..?

 

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post #20 of 27
1/2/13 at 1:06pm
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OK-As I posted above,when I did the A_B comparison,one had a higher treble..the other deeper bass.

 

Snapple seems to have clarified the issue.

 

Graphs,highs,low deep bass,I would still use either pair,either way

For me ,with my ears,and the type of music I prefer ,,they are both an outstanding headphone.

Not good at reading a graph ,so,If you like,I can photograph my graph,& you tell me,if I have a peak issue,in fact I'd appreciate it.

 

Thanks

Mike


Edited by mikek200 - 1/2/13 at 1:10pm
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post #21 of 27
1/7/13 at 11:11am
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Originally Posted by Sahara View Post

The HD800 need much warming filming time. In my case I decided to not suffer for more than 200 hours the process and let them playing "to the wind"... Although in this case that the wind was more "under cover" also resulting in some rather curious and somewhat comical situation:

I remember that I had with a large stuffed cushion, simulating a head and because the HD800 not isolate, sometimes to not bother covering Teddy with a blanket and some people who were at home in those days looked me with a face of hallucination, probably thinking that where had gone to put.
Only audiophiles know how these things work, so I was not to give many explanations as to explain to the visits that are matters of shootings!!
It's better to forget the situation. The life of the audiophile is sometimes very sacrificed.beyersmile.png


Approximately 12 hours a day with different types of music from radio that I have a another small secondary system as well...and of course the Assembly onto the bed and simmer as you can imagine the scene!! But really the experiment was effective.

When I felt curiosity, every certain number of hours i took the 800 to Teddy provided, once them and the matter seemed to work perfectly, as I wrote above and I began to detect the potential of headphones and to show what they were going to be able to.
"Unlimited potential" confirmed in subsequent hearings and obviously endorsed today.

I was lucky enough to receive once again many of the visitors and some of them after testing the Senns I think that they finally begin to understand the situation
Better late than never.beyersmile.png

 
For future purchases, the experiment will be the same. I have no doubt about it.
Soon comes the turn for SR-009 and GES. Teddy is prepared for them...
 
Happy new year to all...

  

 

      HUH!!! --WTF are you on buddy??? Time for the 'whitecoats' and perhaps a change in your antipsychotic meds - get rid of the Dopamine and give Chlorpromazine or some Trifluoperazine a try.

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post #22 of 27
1/7/13 at 5:58pm

^A better translation program might have yielded the following:

 

"I think the HD800 need to burn-in so I ran mine on a stuffed animal for hours and didn't bother to cover them up.  Anyone not familiar with us audiophiles looked at my set-up as crazy.  Sometimes that is just how we appear, I guess.  It's my process and I'll do the same thing with my next cans.  Cheers, fellows!"

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post #23 of 27
1/7/13 at 6:04pm
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Originally Posted by CEE TEE View Post

^A better translation program might have yielded the following:

 

"I think the HD800 need to burn-in so I ran mine on a stuffed animal for hours and didn't bother to cover them up.  Anyone not familiar with us audiophiles looked at my set-up as crazy.  Sometimes that is just how we appear, I guess.  It's my process and I'll do the same thing with my next cans.  Cheers, fellows!"

CEE TEE,

Outstanding---LOL.!!

I read Sahara's post about 6 times...thought maybe ..well you know..its the holidays....he.had a few.?

 

Excellent translation,great post...you just made my day !!!

Mike

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post #24 of 27
1/7/13 at 9:18pm
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Originally Posted by Sahara View Post

The HD800 need much warming filming time. In my case I decided to not suffer for more than 200 hours the process and let them playing "to the wind"... Although in this case that the wind was more "under cover" also resulting in some rather curious and somewhat comical situation:

I remember that I had with a large stuffed cushion, simulating a head and because the HD800 not isolate, sometimes to not bother covering Teddy with a blanket and some people who were at home in those days looked me with a face of hallucination, probably thinking that where had gone to put.
Only audiophiles know how these things work, so I was not to give many explanations as to explain to the visits that are matters of shootings!!
It's better to forget the situation. The life of the audiophile is sometimes very sacrificed.beyersmile.png


Approximately 12 hours a day with different types of music from radio that I have a another small secondary system as well...and of course the Assembly onto the bed and simmer as you can imagine the scene!! But really the experiment was effective.

When I felt curiosity, every certain number of hours i took the 800 to Teddy provided, once them and the matter seemed to work perfectly, as I wrote above and I began to detect the potential of headphones and to show what they were going to be able to.
"Unlimited potential" confirmed in subsequent hearings and obviously endorsed today.

I was lucky enough to receive once again many of the visitors and some of them after testing the Senns I think that they finally begin to understand the situation
Better late than never.beyersmile.png

 


For future purchases, the experiment will be the same. I have no doubt about it.


Soon comes the turn for SR-009 and GES. Teddy is prepared for them...
 
Happy new year to all...


Ok. This is funny. I pictured teddy with the HD800's and LOL! Hilarious.
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post #25 of 27
1/7/13 at 9:27pm
We're mostly the same kind of crazy around here, albeit with different native languages tongue.gif
Edited by CEE TEE - 1/7/13 at 11:37pm
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post #26 of 27
1/7/13 at 10:25pm
Sorry for my bad English. I wanted to say that the HD need running time and you can leave them sounding with something that simulates a head to save the entire process.

A way to do it is take a cushion  or similar and put it on the headphones.

The problem is when someone comes home and see the "spectacle", cushion+headphones  they don't know very well if stay or go running...o2smile.gif
 
Now I have bought a GES for my SR-009 and I'd like the same process.I have checked after 200 hours sound of HD800 stabilizes and there is no change in sound

Edited by Sahara - 1/7/13 at 10:27pm
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post #27 of 27
1/7/13 at 10:30pm
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Originally Posted by CEE TEE View Post

^A better translation program might have yielded the following:

 

"I think the HD800 need to burn-in so I ran mine on a stuffed animal for hours and didn't bother to cover them up.  Anyone not familiar with us audiophiles looked at my set-up as crazy.  Sometimes that is just how we appear, I guess.  It's my process and I'll do the same thing with my next cans.  Cheers, fellows!"


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