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Exactly how I feel, exactly!  It's not me I'm worried about, it's alllll theeeeese other people here in Columbus.  Granted I've had the Civic on the snow tires and was ready, but these people are infuriating around here.  2 mph on main street?  I can't idle that slow, so I'm burning the clutch off.  And the road is only wet and barely slushy!  C'mon!  30 mph on the freeways, which are only wet!  Sure we just got dumped on with about 5 inches, and it's the first snow of the year, but seriously people?  C'mon!

 

And that apparently wasn't a good enough rant, cause I'm still hating these people.  angry_face.gif

 

 

 

Grrrrrrrr!  angry_face.gif

 

Either they go 2 mph or else they come barreling like a bat out of Hades and you have to lurch out of their way as they weave in and out of traffic and cut you off.

 

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I lived in Kalamazoo for 5 years so I know about snow, "lake effect" snow to be more precise. I hated it. But the worse part of Michigan winters is the COMPLETE lack of sun. From December through March I could count on the fingers of one hand the number of sunny or partly sunny days. It gets really depressing. I live near Charlotte, NC now,  there is a lot of winter sun, it may snow once or twice but it's melted by mid afternoon and the day-time temp is around 50, give-or-take a few degrees. I so don't miss Michigan winters.

 

Yep, that's definitely true. On the one hand it's good because if the sun shone all the time you'd get snowblind if you were driving through areas with wide patches of land covered in it. On the other hand, it is depressing, especially since the bulk of it usually comes after the holiday season, which contributes to that deflated feeling you get now that everything has passed.

 

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Up in Cleveland life carried on almost always.  We did what we had to do!

 

Down here in Columbus, half inch, panic!

 

Pretty much what happens out this way. Sometimes it's legitimate--today was basically a mild blizzard with at least four inches accumulation. But they do it when the first flurries appear, too. This was the first real snow of the year out this way. I know Chicago got it pretty bad a week ago since our business just barely got out a shipment to one of our customers before they grounded all the flights. He actually wasn't in Chicago, but because of some convoluted flight plan they had to stop off there before putting everything on another flight, which then went to the proper destination. There's quite a bit of this, actually, which becomes more apparent to you when you need to ship cargo somewhere that has nothing to do with Chicago (or another major city) but you find that the flight is cancelled.

 

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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post

We get snow here, but it is pathetic, as it doesn't get cold enough. I actually wish it would snow properly and cover the place. Not that anyone knows how to drive in snow here either, but at least for New Years it could give us something to remember. Of course, now I'll have jinxed myself and it will happen just as I school starts again and I have to drive to the other side of town to teach.

 

People who haven't lived far enough north (or south, I suppose) don't quite understand what snow is like. Of course people in Alaska have it a lot worse than we do here in the continental US, but even where I am it can get pretty bad. It might be amusing to see how folks who aren't used to it cope, and it certainly would make for a memorable experience. It'd definitely be dangerous to do much driving in it, though. My mother got into an accident last year and totaled the car. She's afraid to go out in the snow, now, and I don't blame her one bit.

 

To everybody out there who has to drive in the stuff, be careful and stay safe!


Edited by Argyris - 12/26/12 at 9:23pm
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Like they used to say, "bin der dan dat".

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Winter just arrived on Boxing Day,had a Green Christmas this year,though.
Took this photo an hour ago out back at my sliding door,just after midnight today,looking at half a foot of snow up here near Toronto.

Snow tires were made mandatory by law in our neighboring province of Quebec.
Here in Ontario,you get an automobile insurance discount if you run a set in the winter.
I wouldn't drive without them in the winter months.
Edited by 5aces - 12/26/12 at 10:20pm
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Winter just arrived on Boxing Day,had a Green Christmas this year,though.
Took this photo an hour ago out back at my sliding door,just after midnight today,looking at half a foot of snow up here near Toronto.
Snow tires were made mandatory by law in our neighboring province of Quebec.
Here in Ontario,you get an automobile insurance discount if you run a set in the winter.
I wouldn't drive without them in the winter months.

 

That's an absolutely gorgeous picture. I know it's just a low pressure sodium bulb, but that light top center looks like some eerie, weak sun trying feebly to light the scene but failing.

 

I earned a temporary reprieve today. The gentleman next door kept his promise and snow blew our driveway for us, saving me about three hours of work. We sold him our old riding mower this past summer and he'd said he would clear the snow from our driveway as a favor for giving it to him for so cheap. It's a Wheel Horse, and the fact that after 25 years all it needed was a new front tire to get it working should give you all you need to know about why people cherish these machines. His own WH was apparently on the fritz and he was having trouble finding a replacement.

 

Apparently he was quite pleased with the mower because he not only came right over to blow the snow for us, he absolutely refused to let us pay him, saying he was just keeping up his end of the bargain. Great guy. I'll have to figure out some way to pay him back.

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Originally Posted by Argyris View Post

It's snowing outside. It's dark and miserable. Later on tonight, or tomorrow if it doesn't end by nightfall, I will have to shovel 4-7" off a 100 foot driveway, knowing full well it will probably snow at least three more times this winter.

It ain't fun anymore. They don't even close school for it now that I'm in college.

Snow sucks. That is all.

Thoughts?

Not to be "that guy" but have you ever thought about a snow blower? I know, it isn't "manly" - but I'd rather go out and clear two feet of depth off my driveway (and sidewalk, and so on) in half an hour and be back inside doing whatever I want than out there for a few hours like my "manly" neighbors are. Tools are nice.

As far as college closures - they have different mandates that don't allow them to close as often (whereas public schools have a certain number of "closure days" that they can work in). That said, it's college - it's not like you *have* to go (if you get what I mean).
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Exactly how I feel, exactly!  It's not me I'm worried about, it's alllll theeeeese other people here in Columbus.  Granted I've had the Civic on the snow tires and was ready, but these people are infuriating around here.  2 mph on main street?  I can't idle that slow, so I'm burning the clutch off.  And the road is only wet and barely slushy!  C'mon!  30 mph on the freeways, which are only wet!  Sure we just got dumped on with about 5 inches, and it's the first snow of the year, but seriously people?  C'mon!

And that apparently wasn't a good enough rant, cause I'm still hating these people.  angry_face.gif



Grrrrrrrr!  angry_face.gif

Relax and slow down, you'll live longer. redface.gif

Seriously I understand what you're saying, but I'm honestly more scared of the drivers who are convinced they're invincible because of snow tires, chains, 4WD, or their own perfection and who want to ride on my bumper or otherwise get griefy than the people who get a little nervous and slow way down (because usually the people going 30 mph on the freeway aren't the ones you see dead on the side of the road, it's usually the yokels in the AWD cars with snow tires who are convinced their Audi/Honda/etc can do 90 in any weather because the commercial said so).
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Originally Posted by RoMee View Post

After driving in the snow most of your life knowing is expected.
Every time it snow there's hundreds of accidents and cars in ditches.
I know sh*t happens but that's not the case here, it's the way they drive, like they're impervious to snow because they drive an all wheel drive.

All Wheel Drive, not All Wheel Stop! tongue.gif
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Either they go 2 mph or else they come barreling like a bat out of Hades and you have to lurch out of their way as they weave in and out of traffic and cut you off.

Slow is fine, it's the speeding griefers who make it dangerous. You will generally walk away from <10 mph accidents; it's being plowed into by the typical out of control "4x4 I know how to drive in snow hurrr" types at 75 mph (when you're more or less standing still) that gets you. And I've seen more AWD/4x4/etc "sports" vehicles in the ditch, over the cliff, in the drink, etc than most people could probably pay for in two lifetimes. We're talking to the point that you aren't even worrying about the car for recovery - you're hoping the people can be gotten out alive. High speed and low traction is no good.

I'm always reminded of a few years ago during a bad storm, I was in the normal flow of highway traffic at around 35 mph - some wonderkid in a Jeep cuts around everybody at 65 (because you know, it's a Jeep thing that nobody can understand); we passed him a few minutes later and watched him complete his 720* before going off the road into a ditch.

Honestly I enjoy the snow, it's just the black ice and icepack that I dislike. I've no issues driving in/walking in/etc snow during the day, but I'll avoid it at night if I have the choice.
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I agree....snow sucks and nobody knows how to drive in it. And obob is so right....AWD/4WD helps you go, it does not help you stop. 

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Not to be "that guy" but have you ever thought about a snow blower? I know, it isn't "manly" - but I'd rather go out and clear two feet of depth off my driveway (and sidewalk, and so on) in half an hour and be back inside doing whatever I want than out there for a few hours like my "manly" neighbors are. Tools are nice.
As far as college closures - they have different mandates that don't allow them to close as often (whereas public schools have a certain number of "closure days" that they can work in). That said, it's college - it's not like you *have* to go (if you get what I mean).

 

We do have one! Unfortunately, it worked for one year and never again, and we've never gotten it fixed. It's on that "we'll get to it eventually" list, and it never happens. As far as college goes, I'm not complaining about it not getting closed--it's a lot more of a loss if you lose a day of college than a day of K-12, since in college sometimes that's the only time you meet for that class in the week, and they know this. In fact, there was only one time I ever remember class being cancelled because of the weather in college. I mentioned the snow day thing more out of habit, since people usually bring up the thing about snow days being fun. Forget of course that I'm not in grade school anymore, and neither are any of the people who make that argument to me. It's like they're nostalgic for the time in their life when snow got them out of school, or else they're just grateful that a new generation of kids will get the same treat. I dunno.

 

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Slow is fine, it's the speeding griefers who make it dangerous. You will generally walk away from <10 mph accidents; it's being plowed into by the typical out of control "4x4 I know how to drive in snow hurrr" types at 75 mph (when you're more or less standing still) that gets you. And I've seen more AWD/4x4/etc "sports" vehicles in the ditch, over the cliff, in the drink, etc than most people could probably pay for in two lifetimes. We're talking to the point that you aren't even worrying about the car for recovery - you're hoping the people can be gotten out alive. High speed and low traction is no good.

I'm always reminded of a few years ago during a bad storm, I was in the normal flow of highway traffic at around 35 mph - some wonderkid in a Jeep cuts around everybody at 65 (because you know, it's a Jeep thing that nobody can understand); we passed him a few minutes later and watched him complete his 720* before going off the road into a ditch.

Honestly I enjoy the snow, it's just the black ice and icepack that I dislike. I've no issues driving in/walking in/etc snow during the day, but I'll avoid it at night if I have the choice.

 

Yeah, I'd say those are definitely the worst. The slow ones are annoying, but at least you're safe. It's battling with the ones who, like you said, can't seem to understand that just because they can (or they think they can) handle the snow, a lot of other people can't. And it doesn't matter what kind of car you're driving--none of them is going to do anything to help you if you're driving carelessly.

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That's an absolutely gorgeous picture.

Yes,it was dark outside and the snow was coming down,covering the road directly behind the building.
Lots of night lighting,just to the left side is a major GO train/bus station hub for all the downtown commuters.

In my homeowner days I used a Toro 824 snowblower,tire chains with electric start,worked like a champ.
Car wax applied on the auger drum and chute made sure the snow slid through and blew far away.

Found this vid that brought back some nice memories of the exact Toro model,I enjoyed throwing snow around with that machine.

Edited by 5aces - 12/27/12 at 5:27pm
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We do have one! Unfortunately, it worked for one year and never again, and we've never gotten it fixed. It's on that "we'll get to it eventually" list, and it never happens. As far as college goes, I'm not complaining about it not getting closed--it's a lot more of a loss if you lose a day of college than a day of K-12, since in college sometimes that's the only time you meet for that class in the week, and they know this. In fact, there was only one time I ever remember class being cancelled because of the weather in college. I mentioned the snow day thing more out of habit, since people usually bring up the thing about snow days being fun. Forget of course that I'm not in grade school anymore, and neither are any of the people who make that argument to me. It's like they're nostalgic for the time in their life when snow got them out of school, or else they're just grateful that a new generation of kids will get the same treat. I dunno.

No idea on the "why" here, but I do get what you're saying. When I was in college we had snow days with at least some regularity though. Honestly more than when I was in grade school - it was kind of bizarre. *shrug*

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Yeah, I'd say those are definitely the worst. The slow ones are annoying, but at least you're safe. It's battling with the ones who, like you said, can't seem to understand that just because they can (or they think they can) handle the snow, a lot of other people can't. And it doesn't matter what kind of car you're driving--none of them is going to do anything to help you if you're driving carelessly.

Aye. It doesn't matter how good of a driver you are, you have to remember that not everyone else is, and their behavior can be very unpredictable as a result, so going all Fast & Furious is extremely dangerous (the only reason it works in those movies is because they have trained stunt drivers for both the "main character" cars and the other random vehicles on screen; it's a closed course). Speaking of which - saw a total of three yumyums out in their Jeeps tonight (all three nearly killed themselves), and a champion in an Escalade.
post #25 of 28


4:00 PM today Friday,Feb 08/13,rear balcony.
Largest single snowfall in four years for Toronto.
Ha,still it's only 30cm or about a foot.Photo of the old downtown Brampton today,near my abode.


Happy to be inside,listening to the new CD soundtrack from the movie Stand Up Guys (2012)
I find it most excellent.
Here's the liner notes:


Edited by 5aces - 2/8/13 at 1:54pm
post #26 of 28

Crazy awful out there here in Toronto today. Definitely avoid the roads if you can.

post #27 of 28

I love snow I miss living in MA. 

post #28 of 28

Living in the SF bay area, I don't get any snow at this low elevation, but I always hated driving in it, or shoveling it when we rent a cabin for going skiing/snowboarding.  However, I do love snowboarding. 


Edited by daigo - 2/11/13 at 10:01am
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