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Need help with Fiio E17.

post #1 of 17
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Hey Head-Fi.

 

I got my E17 today, and expected it straight away to make my music sound better. Turns out I was wrong, played around with some EQ settings, etc, [I have bass set on 2,  Treble 6, Gain 12]

I was wondering the best settings for the Alpen, what are they? How do I make my music sound better with it? Noob questions ;) But I was on the impression that it would make my music sound better straight away.

 

I have V-Moda LP2 headphones. Tried the settings I have with my regular stereo blackberry in-ear headphones and noticed the sound was much more crispier.

TL;DR: I know how to use the ALPEN a bit, since I only got it today, but I wanted to know how to make it sound better.

 

Thanks in advance.


Edited by Existence - 12/25/12 at 3:20am
post #2 of 17

Well, you have fairly low impedence cans, so you won't benifit a lot from the amp of the E17. If you are using a standard headphone out jack, you are also not using the E17 DAC, as the headphone out port relies on the internal DAC of a device. I assume you are using a BlackBerry, as you have the headphones from one. AFAIC, the BlackBerry cannot give a digital output, though I may be wrong. In terms of EQ settings, these vary from person to person. If there was one fix-all-end-all "right" setting, then there wouldn't be a way to adjust it.

 

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Unless I am completely mistaken.

post #3 of 17
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I don't have a blackberry, just the earphones. I use my V-MODA LP2 headphones, and after burning in the fiio, without the amp the music feels dull, kind of like listening my cans for two months and then listening to Beats.
post #4 of 17
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Originally Posted by ender323 View Post

Well, you have fairly low impedence cans, so you won't benifit a lot from the amp of the E17. If you are using a standard headphone out jack, you are also not using the E17 DAC, as the headphone out port relies on the internal DAC of a device. I assume you are using a BlackBerry, as you have the headphones from one. AFAIC, the BlackBerry cannot give a digital output, though I may be wrong. In terms of EQ settings, these vary from person to person. If there was one fix-all-end-all "right" setting, then there wouldn't be a way to adjust it.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Unless I am completely mistaken.

Sorry, I'm on my iPod, forgot to quote your post properly, read above post for my reply.
post #5 of 17

So, you are listening off of an iPod? I know that a LOD (line out dock) can bypass the internal amp, though I am unsure of how to bypass the internal DAC. It might be possible with a 30-pin => mini-USB plug. On a computer, you can use a mini-USB => USB cable to bypass the DAC and amp simultaneously, might try that to see what sound you will be getting with a digital out.

post #6 of 17

I don't think you can take advantage of the E17 DAC with an ipod, you are simply using the amp and that is it. The dac is really for use with a laptop or desktop computer.

post #7 of 17

I assume you have an iPod touch as you posted from it. You can get the full E17 with an iPod Touch-it will cost about $30 and it REQUIRES jailbreaking. Apple offers a kit to connect your camera over USB to an iPad. It only works with iPad, but if you install an app that requires jailbreaking, then you can use that kit with an iPhone or iPod touch. You can then plug a miniUSB cable into your iPod over the camera kit adapter, and then into the E17.

 

Here is the app-it is $1.

http://moreinfo.thebigboss.org/moreinfo/depiction.php?file=cameraconnectorDp

And here is the adapter on Amazon, for a little under $29 with shipping-

http://www.amazon.com/Apple-iPad-Camera-Connection-MC531ZM/dp/B003K1EYM6

post #8 of 17
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Originally Posted by ender323 View Post

I assume you have an iPod touch as you posted from it. You can get the full E17 with an iPod Touch-it will cost about $30 and it REQUIRES jailbreaking. Apple offers a kit to connect your camera over USB to an iPad. It only works with iPad, but if you install an app that requires jailbreaking, then you can use that kit with an iPhone or iPod touch. You can then plug a miniUSB cable into your iPod over the camera kit adapter, and then into the E17.

Here is the app-it is $1.
http://moreinfo.thebigboss.org/moreinfo/depiction.php?file=cameraconnectorDp
And here is the adapter on Amazon, for a little under $29 with shipping-
http://www.amazon.com/Apple-iPad-Camera-Connection-MC531ZM/dp/B003K1EYM6

Can't jail break a 5g iPod. Stupid new core... :L
post #9 of 17
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Can't jail break a 5g iPod. Stupid new core... :L

 

Ah, yes. Forgot about that. Without jailbreak, you would have to buy a DAC that is approved by Apple. These run in the range of several hundred dollars. Fostex makes the HP-P1, which is one of the more popular DACs for iDevices, but it cost a little over $600. There are also DACs that connect over BlueTooth, and work with any device with BlueTooth audio, (i don't remember if iPod touch has BT), but those tend into the $1000+ range.

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Ah, yes. Forgot about that. Without jailbreak, you would have to buy a DAC that is approved by Apple. These run in the range of several hundred dollars. Fostex makes the HP-P1, which is one of the more popular DACs for iDevices, but it cost a little over $600. There are also DACs that connect over BlueTooth, and work with any device with BlueTooth audio, (i don't remember if iPod touch has BT), but those tend into the $1000+ range.
New jailbreak is coming out for all devices on the same day as the Super Bowl. I figured I don't need DAC, I have a good set-up.

V-MODA LP2 + Fiio E17 + iPod touch + FLAC to ALAC converted music with dbpoweramp or XLV.
I may get a DAC adapter if Fiio release then in the future.
post #11 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by ender323 View Post

I assume you have an iPod touch as you posted from it. You can get the full E17 with an iPod Touch-it will cost about $30 and it REQUIRES jailbreaking. Apple offers a kit to connect your camera over USB to an iPad. It only works with iPad, but if you install an app that requires jailbreaking, then you can use that kit with an iPhone or iPod touch. You can then plug a miniUSB cable into your iPod over the camera kit adapter, and then into the E17.

 

Here is the app-it is $1.

http://moreinfo.thebigboss.org/moreinfo/depiction.php?file=cameraconnectorDp

And here is the adapter on Amazon, for a little under $29 with shipping-

http://www.amazon.com/Apple-iPad-Camera-Connection-MC531ZM/dp/B003K1EYM6

So I realize that this would be a cumbersome setup, but if someone wanted to with a jailbroken iPhone 5 could they connect that 30 pin lightning adapter to the phone, have the camera kit adapter connected to the lightning adapter and the run that to the E17?  The answer is really for my own curiosity. 

post #12 of 17
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So I realize that this would be a cumbersome setup, but if someone wanted to with a jailbroken iPhone 5 could they connect that 30 pin lightning adapter to the phone, have the camera kit adapter connected to the lightning adapter and the run that to the E17?  The answer is really for my own curiosity. 

In theory, sure, or with something like this-

 http://www.macrumors.com/2012/12/06/unofficial-3-in-1-lightning-camera-connection-kit-supports-usb-sd-and-microsd/

However, iPhone 5/iPod Touch 5 have not yet been jailbroken. iOS 6 has been cracked, but only on old devices running it-not the latest. If it has a lightning connector, it can't currently be jailbroken.

post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by ender323 View Post

In theory, sure, or with something like this-

 http://www.macrumors.com/2012/12/06/unofficial-3-in-1-lightning-camera-connection-kit-supports-usb-sd-and-microsd/

However, iPhone 5/iPod Touch 5 have not yet been jailbroken. iOS 6 has been cracked, but only on old devices running it-not the latest. If it has a lightning connector, it can't currently be jailbroken.

According to this http://9to5mac.com/2013/01/30/evasi0n-first-untethered-iphone-5-jailbreak-to-be-released-sunday-all-other-ios-6-1-devices-too/ the iPhone 5 is included in the list of devices that will be able to be jailbroken when the 6.1 jailbreak is released.

post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by Got the Shakes View Post

According to this http://9to5mac.com/2013/01/30/evasi0n-first-untethered-iphone-5-jailbreak-to-be-released-sunday-all-other-ios-6-1-devices-too/ the iPhone 5 is included in the list of devices that will be able to be jailbroken when the 6.1 jailbreak is released.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ender323 View Post

In theory, sure, or with something like this-
 http://www.macrumors.com/2012/12/06/unofficial-3-in-1-lightning-camera-connection-kit-supports-usb-sd-and-microsd/
However, iPhone 5/iPod Touch 5 have not yet been jailbroken. iOS 6 has been cracked, but only on old devices running it-not the latest. If it has a lightning connector, it can't currently be jailbroken.
Evasion [stylised evasi0n] Jailbreak is due to release the same day as the American Super Bowl. 6.1 has been released, Lendary hackers pod2g, planetbeing and musclenerd are working on the jailbreak. I got all this from their twitter feed and website.
post #15 of 17
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Evasion [stylised evasi0n] Jailbreak is due to release the same day as the American Super Bowl. 6.1 has been released, Lendary hackers pod2g, planetbeing and musclenerd are working on the jailbreak. I got all this from their twitter feed and website.

There have been plenty of promises for an iPhone 5 JB. No one has delivered yet. If they do, great, but ATM, no way to JB a 5.

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