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post #16 of 23
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Originally Posted by lee730 View Post

Yep it's really not worth polishing a turd ;). Still ends up being just a shiny piece of sh%#.
 

Haha. I find OCC and OFC funny.

I hear no difference between them. (7N OCC vs Regular OFC).

each metal has its own conductance and resistance that gives it a certain sound, i doubt the more grainy OFC compare to the flatter OCC's will account to any audible differences even if using $100,000 gear.

 

If for say, using something like silver, it's obviously going to sound different due to conductance and resistance features. Might not be audible for everyone/every equipment.

 

I just find OCC a waste of money when OFC is way cheaper and sounds 99% the same, but hey, people are obsessed with moving up the ladder, that they'll waste hundreds for less than a percentage which might not even be audible.

 

If people use expensive Cryo OCC 7N/5N OFC, why not just go all out and get silver wires, that way you'll actually hear audible difference rather than placebo. Silver sounds too bright you say? then use OFC Copper for that "warm" sound. What? Not good as OCC? Really? Have you heard it? yeah yeah.. i bet.

 

Let's all go buy Monster Nitrogen injected HDMI Cables. They're probably be 1% better than a $2 cable from ebay. (for those who have photographic memory and can recall pixel/quality changes)

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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

 

I just use a small table clamp. My method of braiding 8 involves laying the wires out in a large cross formation, two wires per arm, then criss crossing opposite pairs. Takes up a lot of space, but it's easier for me to keep track of what sequence I'm on that way. 

 

The biggest difference I've ever noticed in cables was going from a steel cable to silver. Once I compensated for the volume difference due to lower impedance though, the differences became marginal to my ear. I could maybe pick up more if I were able to switch immediately back and forth, but that's not possible to do with a headphone cable short of rigging up a switch of some sort.

Ah, so you're doing it that way.

 

I've never heard a steel cable, so i can't comment.

One thing i hate is to test out headphone cables for differences. After listening to a song (or important parts) worth emphasizing on to test cable quality, during the switch process you usually forget the jist of how it sounded like and may make bad assumptions. I hateeee it sooo much. It makes you end up listening around 10x before you could make a clear decision lol.

 

Tim


Edited by cssarrow - 12/26/12 at 1:01am
post #17 of 23
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Originally Posted by cssarrow View Post

Haha. I find OCC and OFC funny.

I hear no difference between them. (7N OCC vs Regular OFC).

each metal has its own conductance and resistance that gives it a certain sound, i doubt the more grainy OFC compare to the flatter OCC's will account to any audible differences even if using $100,000 gear.

 

If for say, using something like silver, it's obviously going to sound different due to conductance and resistance features. Might not be audible for everyone/every equipment.

 

I just find OCC a waste of money when OFC is way cheaper and sounds 99% the same, but hey, people are obsessed with moving up the ladder, that they'll waste hundreds for less than a percentage which might not even be audible.

 

If people use expensive Cryo OCC 7N/5N OFC, why not just go all out and get silver wires, that way you'll actually hear audible difference rather than placebo. Silver sounds too bright you say? then use OFC Copper for that "warm" sound. What? Not good as OCC? Really? Have you heard it? yeah yeah.. i bet.

 

Let's all go buy Monster Nitrogen injected HDMI Cables. They're probably be 1% better than a $2 cable from ebay.

Ah, so you're doing it that way.

 

I've never heard a steel cable, so i can't comment.

One thing i hate is to test out headphone cables for differences. After listening to a song (or important parts) worth emphasizing on to test cable quality, during the switch process you usually forget the jist of how it sounded like and may make bad assumptions. I hateeee it sooo much. It makes you end up listening around 10x before you could make a clear decision lol.

 

Tim

 

I've used silver platted and pure silver cable. I did feel the 7OCC did sound a bit better than the 5OCC at least on my IEMs. Both still sound real good to me though. I also really liked the silver plated on the IE8. Made them smoother yet still some more detail. But the silver cable was surly better IMO regarding treble detail and clarity it added to the overall sound. Also bass became leaner and less mid bass. I can hear the differences even between LODs. For me its not so subtle either. It's enough so to turn me off from my rig or make it have synergy. Like currently on my DX100/T1 amp I am preferring the copper LOD with it on my 1Plus2 (silver/gold cable). It adds more weight to the mids, more upfront and a little warmer in the bass. While if I add a silver cable LOD to this combo it makes the sound a bit too aggressive for me. In the upper mids and lower treble area particularly. It sound nice I agree but not to my liking. It's all about finding the right balance.

post #18 of 23
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Originally Posted by CSGO rice View Post

I finished building the cable for my HD600 today.

I honestly didn't believe in cable differences and just wanted a cooler looking and sturdier cable.

But once I put them on.  Holy moly baby jesus!

I went in with the FULL expectation of them not making any difference.

But it was like going from the sound system from a house party to a sweet club.

Everything was fuller.  Bass was THUMPING.

 

I have not done ABX testing, but the difference is so huge, there isn't a chance that it's all placebo.

But I will post a video sometime soon of my ABX testing.

Expect me to score a 10/10.

 

=) and <3's to all.

Merry Xmas!


Nice! make me wish i would have looked into a higher end cable when i had them. What type of Wire did you go with?

post #19 of 23

Even if it does exist, it is still the weakest existence in the world.

post #20 of 23
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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

I just use a small table clamp. My method of braiding 8 involves laying the wires out in a large cross formation, two wires per arm, then criss crossing opposite pairs. Takes up a lot of space, but it's easier for me to keep track of what sequence I'm on that way. 

The biggest difference I've ever noticed in cables was going from a steel cable to silver. Once I compensated for the volume difference due to lower impedance though, the differences became marginal to my ear. I could maybe pick up more if I were able to switch immediately back and forth, but that's not possible to do with a headphone cable short of rigging up a switch of some sort.

Steel cables?
Are you sure that it wasn't tin plated copper?
Hey, just asking......?
post #21 of 23

The stock Senn HD25-1-ii cable is steel. Measuring the straight resistance it is quite a bit higher than a similar copper and silver one. 

post #22 of 23
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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post

The stock Senn HD25-1-ii cable is steel. Measuring the straight resistance it is quite a bit higher than a similar copper and silver one. 

 

Wow, serious weirdness!

I guess they don't want the cable to break easily.

post #23 of 23

Well, they *are* the HD25's after all. If you manage to break those, you're doing something wrong. 

 

That said, the HD25-13 (the 600 ohm version) is OCC copper. 

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