Originally Posted by planx
Hmm... Really temped but I still need to be 100% sure I want it lol. That is HE-500 money...
Yeah, I'm debating on whether or not I should buy a second pair of CIEMs or a nice set of cans like HE-400 or D5000. I like my HD-600, but I'd really like a closed can with a bigger bass presence that will tune out the sometimes obnoxious people I live with.
However, from a few hours of poor fit, I can tell I enjoy the 7X sound signature, but I'm not entirely sure that it has enough detail and resolution to leave me truly happy with complicated classical piano pieces, like the ER4 did. One thing is for sure though, the bass is not overbearing, but it hits so deep and hard when called for. I was blown away listening to one of my favorite industrial bands Einstürzende Neubauten. I'm really anxious to get them back, but based solely on what I've read, they seem to be very close to what people describe the 8.A as. However, I don't know if they are as forgiving as the 8.A of poorly mastered tracks.
Originally Posted by average_joe
Unfortunately, in my experience, demos many times aren't representative of the real thing as the bass and treble are generally different, and can be so different they sound like a different headphone. However, if you like a demo, chances are you will like the real thing as they do sound better, and maybe much better. The reason I bring this up is that some have been turned off by demos while the real thing is much better and worth the cost.
As far as impressions, the best advice I can give is to have the audiologist put the dams as deep in your ears as is comfortable/possible. The deeper the impression goes, the more accurate the canal portion of the impressions, and the better the fit of the CIEM. The canal being too small is probably (and I am guessing based off of talking and reading about refits) 60%+ of the issues.
Yeah, the audiologist I went to primarily works with hearing aids, which I don't think go as deep as CIEMs? So when he did my impressions the first time, they weren't nearly deep enough to provide a good seal. Second time's the charm hopefully.