T-PEOS H-200 - new triple hybrid IEM - Appreciation thread - Page 6

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Originally Posted by Techno Kid 

I did not say that, that was someone using my account.   Why did you have to find that, LOL.  I had only listen to them for a little while but upon further examination I found them to be less than stellar.

Don't forget...

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Originally Posted by svyr 

I got my H-100RR today.

Found Odd:
- With my cowon d2, or external dac + O2 at work, I can hear a distinct upper mids (see below) and separate treble peak (hats), making it sound somewhat unnatural and unpleasant/artificial. (grating and v-shaped). To the point of being disturbing and me probably describing them as having off tonal balance (modern music sound ok, but female vocals - hollow, and classical sounds horrible, with fortepiano sounding like harpsichord for say Levin or Tan)
- With Musiland MD30's internal amp, low impedance HP socket (as in low power earphone socket, not low output impedance ) - they sound very nice. Crisp but not over the top treble, only a slight upper mids bump and deep bass (maybe some very slight resonance in the upper mids). Not perfect, but by far more coherent than AF78, and awesome for that price (I prefer UM's TWFK or 2TWFK tuning for treble and upper mids, but I know a lot of people think it's too bright). If anything I'll probably keep them as a replacement for Full-size headphones for late night listening or movies.
 

 

 

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Originally Posted by svyr 

hmm interesting you guys seem to be big fans of forward treble (relative to lower mids) and slight relative upper mids accent.
I guess if it's a common tuning for non mids forward iems it must be good.
I listened to too many 1-2.5k bump iems and speakers, and it sounds completely unnatural to me. not 'balanced' , to the point of overall tonality of pieces and balance between instruments and or voice being fairly off and them sounding thin and treble and upper mids heavy.
also, I noticed the plug strain relief was torn out of the box on my pair. (the lowest ring is half torn)

 

 

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Originally Posted by Jupiterknight 

 

Regarding burn-in. I'm not a believer in 500-800 hours of burn-in for these types of units, but I will say that when I yesterday listened to the H-100 for twenty minutes right out of the box I wasn't convinced that this purchase would really enhance the quality of my life. Very brief, vocals sounded very much off!  So I left my home in a very depressed state while the H-100 burned in for 6-8 hours and when i picked them up again it was vastly a very different experience.  The cross-overs in hybrids, burn-in effect on this?  I would be very much willing to believe that this area could to be responsible for this change. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity 


The first thing I noticed was vocals were really really recessed I'm not sure about your pairs but these gave new meaning to TF10's recessed mids the first 10 minutes. However, after only 10 minutes use they seemed to change already waking up. Almost like the BA drivers were dead set stiff eh..They've since come forward to the intended position .
They require a lot of power for a 32ohm IEM. I need 33/40 to bring them up to speed on my Cowon S9 There's good separation, micro detail , air and a decent width soundstage using the Colourfly C3, they sound very different to anything I've ever heard and I won't rule out how nice that sound is just yet.
Too early to give impressions at this stage, very different to anything I've heard.

 

 

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Originally Posted by sepinho 

So far, I'm not all that impressed with the H-100 though. It sounds like my sample has THD and sibilance problems, it's a little bright and mids are thin-sounding for my personal taste. I'll have it burn in for a while to see if that helps. 

 

Either way, my tour is winding down and the H-100 will soon be a thing of the past. Hopefully SWP fixes the issues of their original hybrid, especially now that the GR08's price is starting at $300 and escalates to $500 for the premium version. If they do so, then the H-200 may end up being the better alternative.

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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity 

You already almost got banned for your last expedition in the H-100 thread. I sure hope you wouldn't want that happening in here too? And I'll have it known the first few selected in your tour were hand picked by you choosing their preferences, you knew they wouldn't like them, no secret there. Anyway, this could blow up into something I really don't want to in here, so I'm leaving at that, any quote you make won't be replied too.

Why would I get banned for speaking the truth? Nothing in my previous post was meant to do anything other than talk about the H-200 and what I hoped they'd be.

According to you, the H-100 made every other iem sound like a cardboard box. I had to set the record straight.

Last thing I'll say about it is this: I selected established members who I was sure weren't going to vanish with my earphones. 

Come on boys...play nice, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and people like different things, otherwise, JustBeats purple headphone won't exist...

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Originally Posted by djvkool 

Come on boys...play nice, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and people like different things, otherwise, JustBeats purple headphone won't exist...

I'm really not angry or anything. That may be hard to detect over this text based medium, but I really don't have anything against H2O. 

My only beef is that this is a forum where money is at stake. People come here to find something that'll make their music sound great. I only wish that the guys on the H-100 thread would have specified that they mainly listen to EDM, the only genre that I think the H-100's sound sig is suited to. 

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Originally Posted by eke2k6 

 

I'm really not angry or anything. That may be hard to detect over this text based medium, but I really don't have anything against H2O. 

 

My only beef is that this is a forum where money is at stake. People come here to find something that'll make their music sound great. I only wish that the guys on the H-100 thread would have specified that they mainly listen to EDM, the only genre that I think the H-100's sound sig is suited to. 

That's not entirely accurate eke. Certainly the H100 work very well with EDM, and there is no doubt they have somewhat recessed mids, but the sound of them changes radically depending on whether they are amped, or what sources and tips you are using. I find that using them amped, or paired with my Colorfly C3 or indeed adding a 75 Ohm adaptor, gives entirely different results in each case. Depending on what you pair them with and the tips being used, trebles may be smoothed, mids come forward, warmth may be added etc. etc.. It is THE most sensitive IEM I have ever heard when it comes to pairing and tips.

I would certainly say that if someone is planning on using the stock tips, plugging the H100 directly into a Sansa Clip on a flat EQ, and listening to music that is predominantly vocal, you will probably throw the H100 across the room. However, with the right combination of tips and pairing, they can produce a lovely sound for most types of music.

Would I recommend them for "Joe Public" that just wants an IEM to plug into his iPod and listen to pop music? No I definitely wouldn't.

Would I recommend them for audiophiles that like to tinker with setups and settings and are looking for a cheap hybrid with good sound quality? Yes, I would, because that's the people that are on these forums, and getting the right setup with the H100, will show just how good they are for the price you pay.

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Originally Posted by eke2k6 

 

I'm really not angry or anything. That may be hard to detect over this text based medium, but I really don't have anything against H2O. 

 

My only beef is that this is a forum where money is at stake. People come here to find something that'll make their music sound great. I only wish that the guys on the H-100 thread would have specified that they mainly listen to EDM, the only genre that I think the H-100's sound sig is suited to. 

Totally agree with you mate - though it is not just good for EDM, I managed to find its perfect combo with E11 and 75ohm adapter...

...but that aside, on the flipside people who come here must realise too that people's impression and reviews are all relative, depends on their taste in signature

I am little frustrated by the left side issue. my strain relief failed and I have intermittent connection.

I have jury rigged my own strain relief with floral wire and electrical tape.  It's working...it ain't pretty

but it's the sound that matters.   I may just reshell them if I can get the sound guranteed.

I have spent  about 7 weeks tweaking these and that may be why constantly changing tips stressed them

out mechanically.   They are so much better than what I initially thought.  I am really curious what the Neco

V3 does for them. 

They  are truelly tweaky but that's the joy of them.  The magic of discovering how to squeeze everything out

of them.  I personally enjoy that process.  I guess that sense of personal investment makes them even better.

I could barely stand the TF 10's when I got them.  Spent months making them the best I could and then

the right side driver failed.  I could enumerate all the flaws in the TF 10.  Because these tweaked T-peos show

up every flaw in those. 

I am really grateful for those on this forumn who have really helped me out.  I am actually thankful my 10's failed.

Is my  frustration a poke to get me to go 200's...maybe!

I don't think until you play the tip game these baby's will reward you with magic. Zach helped me avoid the burn-in issue since

these already had a couple hundred hours on them when he sold them to me.  Thank you! 

It's like the chase in a romance...women tend to reveal themselves slowly and only when they sense real commitment...frustratingly slowly at times. 

My wife has been surprisingly patient letting me start this affair. These were her Xmas present to me. Wow what a present.

Enuff, Happy Listening

jgwtriode

Haha H20. I sure did love them when I first heard them and at that price they were good but mine developed DRIVER FLEXXXXXX So now... Is it going to be the Fitear 334, ASG2, 4.Ai or W4?

It seems like 2012 was the year of the birth of IEM, I really hope the hybrid family matures in a quicker pace than this. Subscribed :-)

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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity 


, I really don't know myself atm, Westone 4 maybe to warm for me,(I know W3 borderline are) H-200 seems promising but when is the problem? Possibly V7007 for me, Vsonic really know their stuff and their claims to rival K3003 are sure admiring. I know I'll end up buying both H-200 and V7007, not much else has me interested. But as yourself I'm tired of mid tier purchases. besides Rockit R-50 which are VERY impressive at their price point when feed correctly, I say we just hang in there bud.

Haha I did not really like the GR07 as they were too flat and boring so I must wait for reviews about that and hopefully the H-200 isn't as bright and recessed at the H-100. The ASG 2 is the most exciting IEM I reckon and it being released in a few days gets me more hyped. I'm totes ready to spend $1000 on an earphone lols. I hope I dont buy something that doesnt fit my sound signature preference.