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post #316 of 2552
@djvkool

I heard if you play Ke$ha through them they instantly detach themselves from the cable and walk away In disgust, so it's not all that bad. wink.gif
Edited by H20Fidelity - 4/29/13 at 9:21am
post #317 of 2552
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post

Back to H-200 please guys.

I've now spent around 25 - 30 hours listening to T-Peos H-200 with multiple sources headphones outs, I've tried some amping to get a grasp on things, I've listened extensively to the point I need to have rest because my right ear drum is telling me to stop. We've been informed to burn H-200 in for a few days to let everything settle so I recommend that for new owners receiving theirs soon. I will say when they first arrived I thought there was a slight peak in the upper mids with one source, some vocals like Taylor Swift when she'd really start hauling arse upstairs would peak a touch, though it's undetectable anymore, (I can't remember which DAP or tips it was, though it's disappeared).






To get a few things right out of the way, H-200 could not be any further away from H-100 if you tried, their tonality is completely different (warmer) their signature, completely unrelated. For those who were wanting an H-100 with improved mid range you will not find this in H-200, they're not U / V shaped , they hold no particular T-Peos house sound, but instead you may find yourself greeted with good balance from top to bottom, and from what my ears tell me a rather powerful presentation when called upon in the lows and mid range. They're particularly easy to drive so amping is not required, although adding something small like C&C BH will give some benefits it's not compulsory. H-200 appear to excel in vocals which I find quite hilarious considering the flaw H-100 had in that area. Mid range attack is strong as is decay, treble has ability to hold posture and finesse, almost like every flaw H-100 has been addressed but with a totally different approach, one I find hard to fault so far, personally.

One thing that really stands out with H-200 signature is balance, I know the demo members keep mentioning this but it's the best word to describe H-200, the bass although deep and powerful somewhat reminding me of a floor standing speakers doesn't bleed, doesn't intrude, if you lift the volume both mids and highs will all come up accompanying each other, control is a strong suit in this area. I think if you really work them low and mids may come a little forward over the top end but still not to the point of feeling drowned out, I honestly at times have trouble pin pointing exactly how far forward or back for example vocals are, it's a strange sensation because at times when I wasn't using H-200's stock tips I was getting a forward projection like feeling from the centre channel which I've mentioned off-screen, I will wait for others to see if they sense anything before thinking I'm crazy.

Amping





Be all means if you want to amp H-200 they will respond positively, I don't think it's absolutely required though especially at 22ohms, they sound perfectly fine out of the Clip+ and Ipod headphones outs. There will be some benefits using C&C BH's LF switch which increases clarity, gives treble more slap, tighten up the low end as per normal when using an amp / IEM. They will handle the extra power no problem, but don't be confused into thinking they need an amp.





Overall I'm really enjoying H-200, whether it be straight from the Clip+ or something more willing like Colorfly CK4, they certainly are a huge step up from the previous H-100 in many ways, for those who have purchased early don't be to worried about all these changes because to be honest, it's for the better for everyone. T-Peos have done a good job, one I cannot fault yet, the soundstage could be wider if anything, though we're not talking being locked in a matchbox, it has decent width, portrays decent depth and I am especially interested in people speaking about the centre channel in good time, which I find to cause an illusion or projection onto the back of my forehead.


H20

 Very nice impressions H20, very nice :-)

post #318 of 2552
H-200 review is up! Goodluck to the others. tongue.gif I'm glad mines done. *wonders off to listen to H-200*

http://www.head-fi.org/t/661964/review-t-peos-h-200-3-way-hybrid-earphone-welcome-the-changes
post #319 of 2552
Any others comparaison against common iem like Sm3 v2, w4, heir 4ai, sm64, ba-200 is welcom. Thank
post #320 of 2552
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Originally Posted by karistep View Post

Any others comparaison against common iem like Sm3 v2, w4, heir 4ai, sm64, ba-200 is welcom. Thank

 

If I end up getting a pair of these, I'll do comparisons to the W4 and 4.Ai. 

post #321 of 2552

I've had the W4, 4.A (not 4.Ai), and BA200.. I preferred the TDK to the Westone & Heir phones.  The W4 & 4.Ai might have had some edge over the BA200 as far as (some) technical ability go, but I didn't find those differences consummate with the price difference.  The W4 & 4.Ai's weaknesses (whether objective or subjective) were more bothersome to me.  The W4 had a massive midbass hump that I found to excessively "warm up" the lower midrange.  The 4.A had a sharp dip at 4K which caused much of the mids to sound unnaturally dark, muffled, and dull.. female vocals, in particular, lacked the richness and articulation I would've expected from a phone at its price point.  That 4K dip was so glaring that I thought there was a defect with my custom (and promptly sent it back to Heir for reinspection).  Unfortunately for me, it turned out the tuning was as intended.  I'm a big fan of the Sennheiser HD600's sound.. the BA200 comes (as) close (as I've heard) to that (legendary) phone's cohesiveness and presentation, IMO.. at least in a universal IEM under $400.  The BA200 isn't perfect.. but given the price, build, looks, and sound quality.. it remains one of the best universal IEMs I've ever owned.


Edited by FlySweep - 4/30/13 at 1:20pm
post #322 of 2552

How would you say the H-200 compares to the BA200?

post #323 of 2552

Mid bass hump and W4 in the same sentence? Just goes to show how each person hears things. Fast, precise and on the mark when called for would be my view and pretty neutral.

 

Anyway, How are you getting on with your review sample of the TP200 mate? I don`t think the April 29 dispatch date was met due to the lack of correspondence. A little annoying but those who wait...

post #324 of 2552
W4 does have a moderate midbass hump, impedance helps tame it though and brings it down to BA200 levels. BA200 is a technical monster, easily on par with W4 and leaves the 4ai in the dust. If there's a an IEM that's truly an ER4 with more bass and soundstage, the BA200 is it.
Edited by Inks - 4/30/13 at 12:07pm
post #325 of 2552

The treble's mellow rather than crisp though, isn't it?

post #326 of 2552
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Originally Posted by Sinth View Post

Mid bass hump and W4 in the same sentence? Just goes to show how each person hears things. Fast, precise and on the mark when called for would be my view and pretty neutral.

 

Anyway, How are you getting on with your review sample of the TP200 mate? I don`t think the April 29 dispatch date was met due to the lack of correspondence. A little annoying but those who wait...

 

W4 measures time and time again with a midbass hump.  It's not just the person, the machine hears it too. 

post #327 of 2552

I think it is best to leave that discussion for another thread.

post #328 of 2552

Very nice impressions and reviews. Two small questions: is the remote Android-compatible, and do the strain reliefs feel bothersome at all (doesn't sound like it, but just wanted to check)?

post #329 of 2552
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Originally Posted by quartertone View Post

Very nice impressions and reviews. Two small questions: is the remote Android-compatible, and do the strain reliefs feel bothersome at all (doesn't sound like it, but just wanted to check)?


Compatibility with remote and mic generally is a hardware issue, not a software. In essence, it depends hot your jack is wired. Most nowadays stick to the standard that Apple created. Not all though. There are adapters to make them compatible though.
post #330 of 2552
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Originally Posted by Sinth View Post

Mid bass hump and W4 in the same sentence? Just goes to show how each person hears things. Fast, precise and on the mark when called for would be my view and pretty neutral.

 

Anyway, How are you getting on with your review sample of the TP200 mate? I don`t think the April 29 dispatch date was met due to the lack of correspondence. A little annoying but those who wait...

 

 

A wide band boost centered around 5dB @ 100-200hz?  I'd qualify that as relatively 'massive'.  To my ears.. the W4's measurements, by and large, confirm how I hear them.  I didn't find their bass particularly fast or precise either.. perhaps even a bit bloated.  That being said, it's probably best left for another thread/discussion.. "different ears/different gears" and all that, too.

 

The H-200 are very nice, so far.  As I mentioned before, I hope people do feed these phones "well recorded" material, as they tend to show off their abilities better.  I'm impressed with how non-fatiguing the H-200 is.. I'm listening to Acoustic Alchemy (who I can't recommend enough.. not only for musical enjoyment, but as reference quality recording) with the Violectric Stack (V800/V200) & the H-200.. and I'm in bliss.  Smooth, slightly warm, airy, excellent soundstage depth and articulation.  My appreciation for how the H-200's treble was tuned continues to grow.  One thing I have noticed, there's a bit of a sweet spot as far as listening volume.  Will elaborate on that later.


Originally Posted by Inks View Post

W4 does have a moderate midbass hump, impedance helps tame it though and brings it down to BA200 levels. BA200 is a technical monster, easily on par with W4 and leaves the 4ai in the dust. If there's a an IEM that's truly an ER4 with more bass and soundstage, the BA200 is it.

 

Dammit Inks, you make me want to get the BA200.. again.  I don't typically 're-buy' headphones unless they're truly special.. but the BA200 is one I've regretted selling from the moment I dropped it in the post.


Edited by FlySweep - 4/30/13 at 1:49pm
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