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FiiO E10 vs FiiO E7 for USB DAC, or something else under $100?

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I've been trying to see which of these is better for a USB DAC, but I can't decide. 

I feel that the FiiO E7 has an advantage from the start being a portable headphone amp as well as a USB DAC. Note that I don't need another portable amp, as my cMoy BB V2.03 is above satisfactory for me right now.

 

I've heard that there is a problem with the E10, being it cuts off about the first .7 seconds of audio. This would be a problem for me if this is true, as I listen to a lot of albums that are genuinely continuous. 

 

My budget is maximum $100, but I would much prefer something in the $50-$70 range, so if there is something better in that price range, please let me know. 

 

I've heard about Schiit DACs, and with the Schiit Modi being $99, would that be my best option?

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Forgot to ask, does a USB DAC replace the need for a sound card? Because my RealTek HD audio driver is pretty low quality in my opinion.

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It's still early days for the Modi and not a lot of user feedback is available yet, but knowing Schiit I'd go for this one.

If you connect external DAC via USB, the onboard audio is not used at all.

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Originally Posted by pro1137 View Post

I've been trying to see which of these is better for a USB DAC, but I can't decide. 

I feel that the FiiO E7 has an advantage from the start being a portable headphone amp as well as a USB DAC. Note that I don't need another portable amp, as my cMoy BB V2.03 is above satisfactory for me right now.

I've heard that there is a problem with the E10, being it cuts off about the first .7 seconds of audio. This would be a problem for me if this is true, as I listen to a lot of albums that are genuinely continuous. 

My budget is maximum $100, but I would much prefer something in the $50-$70 range, so if there is something better in that price range, please let me know. 

I've heard about Schiit DACs, and with the Schiit Modi being $99, would that be my best option?

Asus Xonar DX (PCI-E) sound card, I think used ones are selling for $55 on eBay.

Comes with the CS4398 DAC chip, should be a fair bit better then the motherboard's DAC chip.

The Xonar DX should work fine with the cMoy.

post #5 of 15

If just DAC ONLY, then for a PC i would recommend a Schiit Modi. But if you also use headphone's, you'll need an amplifier with it.

 

But if you want a 2 in 1, Xonar DX, Fiio E10, E7 is ok.

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Asus Xonar DX (PCI-E) sound card, I think used ones are selling for $55 on eBay.

Comes with the CS4398 DAC chip, should be a fair bit better then the motherboard's DAC chip.

The Xonar DX should work fine with the cMoy.

 

I see that there are many jacks on the chip.. my computer only has holes for 2.. Would I still be able to use it?

 

It's an HP Pavillion

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I see that there are many jacks on the chip.. my computer only has holes for 2.. Would I still be able to use it?

 

It's an HP Pavillion

Do you know the exact model of the HP Pavillion?

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Do you know the exact model of the HP Pavillion?

HP Pavilion P6-2011

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HP Pavilion P6-2011

You have PCI-E slots on the motherboard, the Xonar DX will plug into those.

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You have PCI-E slots on the motherboard, the Xonar DX will plug into those.

I was referring to the amount of 3.5 jacks as output. THere's like 5. My PC only has holes for 2 in the front.

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I was referring to the amount of 3.5 jacks as output. THere's like 5. My PC only has holes for 2 in the front.

 

Do you mean the front panel jacks ? You should have a front panel cable as an accessory for your PC chassis, which can be used to connect the sound card to the front panel. This way, you can have easier access to the front channel output (green) and microphone input (pink). At the rear of the card, you can access all 8 output channels (4x3.5 mm jacks) and the line input (which also functions as optical S/PDIF output). Note that using the front panel is generally not recommended if it is avoidable, because it is often not very well implemented in PCs, and picks up audible interference noise.

post #12 of 15
I'm a mid-fi guy myself, but I own an E7-E9 combo, and a Behringer UCA-202 (bought on recommendation from NwAvGuy's blog, the notorious champion of accuracy and objectivity). If I were on a tight budget and didn't need an amp, I would DEFINITELY get the Behringer. $30 on Amazon. Its headphone amp kinda sucks, but its line-out is pretty darned good. It's not pretty, and looks out of place in a hi-fi setup, but if you're as worried about appearances as you are about sound, I think you'll need to raise your budget.

I can also tell you that I'm very happy with the performance of my E7, though less so the user interface. If I used it primarily as a portable headphone amp, it would probably be much better. As a desktop DAC, again, it sounds fantastic but it's not designed for that application. You have to turn it on and off manually. The Behringer powers up and down with your computer.
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I was referring to the amount of 3.5 jacks as output. THere's like 5. My PC only has holes for 2 in the front.

Two holes in front...... headphone and microphone jacks.

post #14 of 15

I have recently upgraded from E7 to E10 for my HD650 and let me tell you that E10 is quite a performer in terms of sound quality. E10 will improve the sound signature a lot.

And FYI I am using a E9 amp.

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I have recently upgraded from E7 to E10 for my HD650 and let me tell you that E10 is quite a performer in terms of sound quality. E10 will improve the sound signature a lot.

And FYI I am using a E9 amp.

Well, I'm not looking to get more than one thing. I think I'll go for the E07K, recommended to me by MalVeaux

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