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post #421 of 558
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I use good old Drum n Bass a 5 hours compilation on a loop..People swear by colored noise. I tried it on several occasions but always reverted back to my drum n bass compilation. Fairly loud volume is key.

post #422 of 558

Finally finished my review on the CKS1000.

 

Here's a quick sum up.

 

"The sound signature and presentation are undoubtedly polarizing in nature but I think it has what it takes to appeal to the masses and enough clarity and micro detail to not offend the seasoned audiophile. But, I can’t deny the harsh reality of the CKS1000 and all of the CKS earphones, really, that there are some perfectly valid reasons to despise these things. They’re not suitable for small ears, the bass dominates the presentation, the midrange is quite recessed and the treble can sometimes be rather unpleasantly strident. But I don’t despise the CKS1000, in fact, I quite like them. They’re so much darn fun that I can’t help but want to listen to them from time to time, in spite of their flaws. The CKS1000 truly is more than a sum of its parts.

 

While I fully expect that there are some users who won’t be able to get past the CKS1000’s particular type of V-shaped sonic reproduction, I see far more who will appreciate it for what it is. This is Audio-Technica’s house sound, uninhibited and turned up to eleven and you’re either on board or you’re not. But, if you are, I’ll see you in the VIP lounge."

 

I'll be posting the full review here in a few days but I have to say that I enjoyed the CKS1000.

post #423 of 558

Significant step up from the 99?

post #424 of 558
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Significant step up from the 99?

 

Significant? Yes. $100 more significant? That's harder to quantify. It's certainly more detailed and a better all rounder but I think the 99's presentation is a tad smoother and less...offensive I guess. It's a tamer alternative to the CKS1000.

post #425 of 558

I agree with the review summary...I also find the bass prominent, think it does impinge on the middle frequencies to some extent. Don't mind the highs (but I'm relatively insensitive to this issue). DO find them exciting, fun, and do really like them despite the frequency anomalies. My main issue is fit, which I think I'm finally getting to work better with Complys, none of the regular tips I tried so far gave me comfort and good isolation.

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I actually ended up returning my pair. Performed 150+ hours of burn-in and the like. The sound is definitely immersive, and the soundstage is crazy massive. The bass reaches deeeep and for the first time, didn't need to use the bass boost from my C5s to get the sound I wanted. It is definitely a very smooth IEM. My only complaint is that the clarity isn't on par with the 40s. I felt like it was a sidegrade, and a slight give or take. More soundstage, immersiveness, bass at the expense of slight treble refinement and vice versa with the 40s.

 

These IEMs definitely made me a believer of the burn-in phenomenon however. The open-box sound definitely sound like a wall of sound coming at you, with no coherence. Listening at different points of burn-in it slowwwly opens up to unlock its potentital. In the end I kept the 40s as my go-to, but would definitely recommend the CKS1000s to anyone who wants an immersive, great lowend, wide soundstage IEM. It has a unique sound sig that I have never heard when auditioning different IEMs. (i'm assuming that this is the ATH house sound that everyone keeps mentioning?)

 

Cheers

post #427 of 558
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Originally Posted by doctorjazz View Post

I agree with the review summary...I also find the bass prominent, think it does impinge on the middle frequencies to some extent. Don't mind the highs (but I'm relatively insensitive to this issue). DO find them exciting, fun, and do really like them despite the frequency anomalies. My main issue is fit, which I think I'm finally getting to work better with Complys, none of the regular tips I tried so far gave me comfort and good isolation.

 

The best tips for me and the 1k's are the vsonic double flangers (from gr07's, or vsd1's). I'm not sure they give the best isolation, but they sound great and fit nicely, stay in well, and are comfortable.

post #428 of 558

Alright, I've published my review of the CKS1000 here on Head-Fi. I'd link my site but I don't want to ruffle any feathers. wink.gif

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Originally Posted by TheGame21x View Post

Alright, I've published my review of the CKS1000 here on Head-Fi. I'd link my site but I don't want to ruffle any feathers. wink.gif

 

Wow - excellent review imo, and seems very congruent with my thoughts on them as well. Re:

 

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But I have to address the flaws I mentioned before once again and I’m sure this is going to sound like some apologist nonsense to some but hear me out. No one would be remiss in pointing out the peaky treble, veiled midrange or huge bass as valid criticisms, especially for a $200+ IEM but somehow, the flaws tend to melt away over extended periods. Sure, the CKS1000 does sound veiled next to the RE-400 but they have a very engaging, energetic quality that’s oddly alluring. And then, you look up and 20 minutes have gone by and you’re left wondering what you were complaining about before.

 

I don't really hear the mid-range as "veiled" per se (although it is definitely not as forward as the mid-range of the h200's for sure). The treble can be peaky at times, but that seems to have lessened for me quite a bit after more burn in and by using the vsonic double flanged tips to the point where I don't notice it any more. But the bolded text is a perfect description imo. Good stuff!

post #430 of 558
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I agree with your review game with the sound of them around a 100 hours but. And you need to trust me. @100 hours of burn in those are just starting..It takes a big burn in on those more like 300-400 hours.. The highs will get to a point where there is absolutely no sibilance or peakiness at all way better sounding after some time on the drivers.Guys that get these will use/burn in for around 100-200 and give up.

 

I should send you my pair it will shock you just how great they sound in comparison to your review pair..Send me a PM if you want me to send you my pair so you can hear what these really sound like. Or better yet I don't know if they let you keep your review pair but I am willing to bet you. You will revise your review once they are burned in. What your hearing now is just potential..

 

I know these earphones like the back of my hands and these take some patience for them to fully show what they are capable of.

post #431 of 558

^ Yup, like dsnuts said :)

post #432 of 558
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I remember hearing these for the first week of burn in and use and I was very perplexed. How can AT make these sound so unrefined. Lol. The mids on my pair sounded swirly undefined and unrefined. One thing it had was that deep wide sound. I wasn't gonna give up on the burn in and it takes much longer than most iems but once they reach a final mature period for the drivers these have a one of a kind sound..Extremely musical very enjoyable easy to listen sound. Which at around 100hours sounds weird almost and while showing hints of refinement is certainly not.

 

I can see many a guys giving up on these earphones simply because they don't believe in burn in or even if they do they simply don't do it long enough to get these proper. Any of you guys own these even if you think they are burned in. They probably aren't. Once they reach non peaky highs..You will know. Everything tightens up in the sound.

post #433 of 558

I still have my review pair so I'll give it a listen tonight and then throw it on the burn in machine for a couple of days. If I hear any significant changes, I'll update this thread and my review.

post #434 of 558

It's been a bit of a struggle getting these things to feel good and isolate in my ears. I may be there, Comply TSX-400's came from Amazon, just put them on yesterday, early on things look/feel/sound good, hopefully this is it.

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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

 these have a one of a kind sound..Extremely musical very enjoyable easy to listen sound.

 

I can see many a guys giving up on these earphones simply because they don't believe in burn in or even if they do they simply don't do it long enough to get these proper.

I am sitting here with a well burned in pair of these things. Using the Vmoda Bliss tips they are really great for most things i find, the soft medical grade silicone. 

Dammit was that the phone ringing across the room?... nope it was some tiny bit of the song way off to the side.   But so close to reality i kept keep looking over to triple/quadruple check.  there it is again....

 

Honestly this thread should never reach past page two at most in here.  These are that good.

Waynesworld and I had a small meet , well 4.5 hours worth of listening to different stuff beerchug.gif.

I like to think, i hope anyways , I have a semi-decent ear for picking up aspects of presentation, resonances etc that sort of thing. Ridiculous amounts of hours spent fine tuning orthodynamic stuff bordering on insanity can get that going pretty good.

 

====There is something i picked up on at the initial listen to these .  A sort of dimensionality to the "soundblocks" that are there, as though they have a 3D aspect to them above and beyond typical iem presentation. First thing I noticed. I could feel around the sounds in a sense.

One small thing I also noticed was very small grumbling/vibrating on the surfaces of some of the instruments/notes. Beautiful!=======

 

Now a day or so later browsing around  with these in mind I see that DSNUTS posted this exact same thing here : http://www.head-fi.org/t/586909/the-discovery-thread-new-kef-m200-pg835-philips-fidelio-s2-pg-724/8775#post_9370907

specifically "Definition is not only there but also gives an amount of depth on your tracks you can actually see with your hearing eye."

 

Not sure how they managed to tune them like this since there is no harshness yet the detailing seems intact.

 

  Something about the signature gets me deeply. Could be the  personal tuning preference I try to hit. Sometimes if luck permits and everything happens to fall into place perfectly ( pretty rare ) a modification hits this gorgeous cohesive flowing sound with no lack of detailing. impactful and organic but not sloppy nor boomy. Things are not slopped together but subtlely connect together.

That's what these have for me.

" Warm " as a descriptor always scares me since I associate that with murky and possibly slow lacking details. You certainly cannot call these "warm" in that sense.

 

In these I hear no lack, just a huge cohesive quality that keeps everything separate in their place, but at the same time part of the whole . Complete immersion?

 Ok time to stop blabbing. I hate posting impressions but these deserve some more love.

So take this for what it's worth.

 

Friggin gorgeous is what you can call these.


Edited by nick n - 8/5/13 at 8:15pm
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