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O.......one thing I may differ with dsnuts view is that I don't think the jvc fxz100 / 200 pair are at the same level as the cks1000. First I must stress that the fxz brothers differ in sound more than one may imagine. But then both got more engulfing bass than the cks while lacks sorely in the mids department when compared to the cks. This by itself is a deal breaker for me. Plus the overall refinement across the frequency range of the cks is a lot better. I've spent some quality time with all three and I don't really understand jvc's tuning. YMMV tho~


The FXZs has their charms. I like them quite a bit as well but these CKS1000 has been steadily growing on me ever since I got them. The sound is fantastic..Went into the CKS1000 purchase with an open mind to get a very nice sound from AT.  My favorite AT earphone to date actually. I think they are a great buy especially when bought through Amazon Japan using Tenso.

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The FXZs has their charms. I like them quite a bit as well but these CKS1000 has been steadily growing on me ever since I got them. The sound is fantastic..Went into the CKS1000 purchase with an open mind to get a very nice sound from AT.  My favorite AT earphone to date actually. I think they are a great buy especially when bought through Amazon Japan using Tenso.

 

I gotta admit the FXZ  produces a one of a kind bass that few can match, especially among iems. But the mids are really too unrefined and sucked out to my liking.

 

Also, another fatal flaw of the FXZ is the fit - the outermost bass driver and the brass parts are so heavy that it tends to fall out of the ears, or FEELS like it is about to fall out of the ear. I've chatted with guys in my local headphone store and was told that many potential buyers indeed turn to other options because of this. The CKS fit however is close to perfect.

 

P.S. as a sidenote, I put it quite clear that I don't like the FXZs, but to be honest I really appreciate JVC's efforts in pulling out interesting and innovative products like this and the wooden cone line - it's very rare among the manufacturers, who just rename their bleh designs as some super duper cool technology and charge the customers like they are REALLY some super duper cool technology. I do hope JVC would eventually release something that I like.

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The sound has tightened up since burn in. I have them in my ears and these are growing on my more and more as I hear them..Sound imagery is awesome on these as a testament to the new drivers being used. Simply a higher resolution driver they are using and it is clearly evident..Much like all other AT earphones I have these benefit greatly with burn in...

 

Absolutely a fantastic big sound with great detail.. So I can say these are more sleepers than anything but ultimately is a very enjoyable sound that does all genres really well.. The sound stage and depth on these earphones paint a musical picture that lets you get lost in your music and that is what it is all about. Great phones and the great news is I see these getting cheaper and cheaper as many will flock to the FXZ earphones. Do not overlook these..

How does the CKS1000 compare to Sony XB90EX?

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I am very certain the days of sibilant too lively highs for AT is gone

 

I avoided ATs for this very reason. I'll add these to my list to try next time I'm in the city. I've not heard a regular dynamic I've liked, mainly due to their tendency to render percussion poorly and various FR sins, such as overbearing treble or bass.

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How does the CKS1000 compare to Sony XB90EX?

 

The Sonys have great deep full mids and sub bass but lack in the highs. The highs are ok but much like many Sony iems and headphones are rolled off. Some tunes just don't have the timbre detail because of this. They are a fun sound but the CKS1000 is a much more complete big sounding earphone. Depth in the sound is similar but where the CKS1000 wins is the width and is a complete sounding earphone. From my experience with many bass heavy big sounding iems they always seem to be lacking in one thing or another. These CKS1000 is using a high resolution 13mm driver for the details and imagery and then adds the new double chambers for the depth and stage..I haven't tried any of the higher end AT full sized headphones such as the A2000X W5000 and such but I would imagine the tuning to be very similar to these. These have great imagery for full sounding iem which is lacking on many of the lower end iems that try to do the same thing.

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I avoided ATs for this very reason. I'll add these to my list to try next time I'm in the city. I've not heard a regular dynamic I've liked, mainly due to their tendency to render percussion poorly and various FR sins, such as overbearing treble or bass.

 

These are a nice alternative to the FXZ earphones and have a much fuller thicker mid section in the sounds over them..These do have the highs that are forward in the mix but does a much better job of keeping in line than the previous AT earphones that I have.. Look forward to your take on them. Also. I know you have some high end headphones and such.. But if you get a chance to. Try out the AD900X. I think they might surprise you. For Jazz. Unbelievable. You will be more impressed by them over these CKS1000 for Jazz for about the same cost.

 

Another one that has surprised me from AT is their new microHD earphone in the CKN50.. AT did one better over the JVC FXD earphones and is cheaper than them. I read that this years CES AT will be showing  many new earphones and headphones. Seems they are stepping up on their products.

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Is the hype train taking a detour from the FXZ thread and heading this way? confused_face.gif

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Well I would put the Sq level of the CKS1000 at around where the FXZ100s are.  Side grades. Variety is the spice of life. I like that these have a different sound than the FXZs. I have the CKS90 and the CKS77 both are good earphones but always wanted to get the high end CKS earphone. It is nice to see AT up the sound quality on these earphones as they should be for the price.

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Do you think there are any over-ear head phones that can compare to these bass wise? I had the CKS-77s and I just LOVED them but the right earbud is going out.. I bought the WS99s hoping it would have similar bass like the CKS77s and it just doesn't put nearly as much bass as I was hoping it would

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The Sonys have great deep full mids and sub bass but lack in the highs. The highs are ok but much like many Sony iems and headphones are rolled off. Some tunes just don't have the timbre detail because of this. They are a fun sound but the CKS1000 is a much more complete big sounding earphone. Depth in the sound is similar but where the CKS1000 wins is the width and is a complete sounding earphone. From my experience with many bass heavy big sounding iems they always seem to be lacking in one thing or another. These CKS1000 is using a high resolution 13mm driver for the details and imagery and then adds the new double chambers for the depth and stage..I haven't tried any of the higher end AT full sized headphones such as the A2000X W5000 and such but I would imagine the tuning to be very similar to these. These have great imagery for full sounding iem which is lacking on many of the lower end iems that try to do the same thing.

 

These are a nice alternative to the FXZ earphones and have a much fuller thicker mid section in the sounds over them..These do have the highs that are forward in the mix but does a much better job of keeping in line than the previous AT earphones that I have.. Look forward to your take on them. Also. I know you have some high end headphones and such.. But if you get a chance to. Try out the AD900X. I think they might surprise you. For Jazz. Unbelievable. You will be more impressed by them over these CKS1000 for Jazz for about the same cost.

 

Another one that has surprised me from AT is their new microHD earphone in the CKN50.. AT did one better over the JVC FXD earphones and is cheaper than them. I read that this years CES AT will be showing  many new earphones and headphones. Seems they are stepping up on their products.

Thanks Dsnuts. I will try it this weekend, can't resist really.

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They sure look nice.

post #41 of 541
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Do you think there are any over-ear head phones that can compare to these bass wise? I had the CKS-77s and I just LOVED them but the right earbud is going out.. I bought the WS99s hoping it would have similar bass like the CKS77s and it just doesn't put nearly as much bass as I was hoping it would

You want a strong bass headphone I would ask here. http://www.head-fi.org/t/573826/the-basshead-club/4155#post_9038835  These guys all love that bass. My bass heaviest headphone I own is the Ultrasone HFI-580 or DJ-1s.  Read up on them.  The CKS1000 also has less mid bass from the CKS77. They do have a similar level of sub bass to them however.

 

 

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Thanks Dsnuts. I will try it this weekend, can't resist really.

 

Ya try them out. My pair just sounds better and better the more I use them..I would be listening to these and something that is quite unique to these earphone is. They have such depth and layering to their sound. You can make out background sounds literally in the back ground. Most earphones would just give you an idea there are back ground instruments and singers. These actually give you an exact idea where the background sounds are at in the recording. I find myself hearing instruments in the far background or foreground in the mix better than other iems I have heard. It is quite addicting.

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I avoided ATs for this very reason. I'll add these to my list to try next time I'm in the city. I've not heard a regular dynamic I've liked, mainly due to their tendency to render percussion poorly and various FR sins, such as overbearing treble or bass.

 

These are a nice alternative to the FXZ earphones and have a much fuller thicker mid section in the sounds over them..These do have the highs that are forward in the mix but does a much better job of keeping in line than the previous AT earphones that I have.. Look forward to your take on them. Also. I know you have some high end headphones and such.. But if you get a chance to. Try out the AD900X. I think they might surprise you. For Jazz. Unbelievable. You will be more impressed by them over these CKS1000 for Jazz for about the same cost.

 

Another one that has surprised me from AT is their new microHD earphone in the CKN50.. AT did one better over the JVC FXD earphones and is cheaper than them. I read that this years CES AT will be showing  many new earphones and headphones. Seems they are stepping up on their products.

 

I usually listen with IEMs on public transport and the like where I'm not going to miss the SQ at all. I can't really listen to IEMs after listening to my main rig at all.  I did try the AD2000Xs and think they may have done very well in improving the line. I'll see if I don't have the patience to give the full range a go. It means going into Best Denki to their headphone floor and turning off all the noisy display crap (the stores are full of marketing BS, complete with TV displays and whatnot, making listening to open-backed headphones impossible). This is impossible in the other stores, which are just too huge and too noisy.

 

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Is the hype train taking a detour from the FXZ thread and heading this way? confused_face.gif

 

My next interest will be in getting a pair of those TDK magnetic armature IEMs which were <$100 yet sounded great.

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I am so happy with my AD900X I am seriously considering a AD2000X purchase.. I just ordered a new ES700 today too. Lol. It just don't end.

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My next interest will be in getting a pair of those TDK magnetic armature IEMs which were <$100 yet sounded great.

 

Do you know if you auditioned both the MA600 and BA700 at FujiyaAvic 2012? From what I can tell, the MA600 has red propeller design and is the magnetic armature-based IEM, while the BA700 has blue propeller design and utilizes a standard balanced armature.

 

 

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Edited by PeterDLai - 1/11/13 at 2:06pm
post #45 of 541
Ordered myself cks99. They are much cheaper than cks1000, but have same technology. I hope that sq is almost same as 1000, but only different tuning(soundsignature). Like fxz100 and 200.
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