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post #256 of 558
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What miracle are you praying for?  Please, translate.

 

 

 

"EDM" stands for Electronic Drum Machine or Electronic Dance Music.  Hip Hop, R&B, Techno, Trance, Dance, House, Dubstep, Reggaeton

and more are EDM stuff.

 

Which IEMs are the best for EDM stuff?  Are the ATH-CKS1000 the best for those genres or there are better ones?


^ Yeppp what WAYNE said, ghostfit said the bass gets more tamed with lots of hours of burn-in, which allows the highs and mids to shine a lot more.  And he had wrote that the highs becomes more shimmery which is what i had wanted the treble to be on these FXZ200s so................ here's to hoping and willing them to bloom.

 

Oh thanks, i guess i listen to mostly EDM according to you definition but mostly just Hip Hop and its many variants.

post #257 of 558
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Originally Posted by Alberto01 View Post

 

What miracle are you praying for?  Please, translate.

 

 

 

"EDM" stands for Electronic Drum Machine or Electronic Dance Music.  Hip Hop, R&B, Techno, Trance, Dance, House, Dubstep, Reggaeton

and more are EDM stuff.

 

Which IEMs are the best for EDM stuff?  Are the ATH-CKS1000 the best for those genres or there are better ones?


^ Yeppp what WAYNE said, ghostfit said the bass gets more tamed with lots of hours of burn-in, which allows the highs and mids to shine a lot more.  And he had wrote that the highs becomes more shimmery which is what i had wanted the treble to be on these FXZ200s so................ here's to hoping and willing them to bloom.

 

Oh thanks, i guess i listen to mostly EDM according to you definition but mostly just Hip Hop and its many variants.

 

Don't be surprised if your FXZ200 take more than 700 hours of use for their best sound to show.  Did you buy them used?

post #258 of 558
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Originally Posted by Alberto01 View Post

 

Don't be surprised if your FXZ200 take more than 700 hours of use for their best sound to show.  Did you buy them used?


Yeppp, the previous owner said he already put like ~500hrs in but i doubt it was that intense of a burn-in process though. I am gonna be keepin' these for a while so no rush. If they still don't sound as i like them to, i'll just sell them off or trade them for the gr07 BEs. Then i should be set iem wise. ksc75smile.gif

post #259 of 558

Anyone here able to compare CKS1000 and CK100pro, which seems to be AT flagship? There are a few posts about CK100pro (there's a thread but no mention about comparing both)....

post #260 of 558
Giving the 'ol 1k's the "gym stress test". One thing is for sure, I have the coolest, most macho looking iems in the joint lol!
Edited by waynes world - 4/18/13 at 4:57pm
post #261 of 558
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Giving the 'ol 1k's the "gym stress test". One thing is for sure, I have the coolest, most macho looking iems in the joint lol!


^ LoL you sure do.....

.................... dat phallic swag. LMAO trying to over compensate much??? bigsmile_face.gif

post #262 of 558
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What miracle are you praying for?  Please, translate.

 

He is burning in his fxz200's to hopefully get them where he wants them.

 

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"EDM" stands for Electronic Drum Machine or Electronic Dance Music.  Hip Hop, R&B, Techno, Trance, Dance, House, Dubstep, Reggaeton

and more are EDM stuff.

 

Which IEMs are the best for EDM stuff?  Are the ATH-CKS1000 the best for those genres or there are better ones?

 

I can only speak for the iem's I have or have had. I listen to the above stuff approx 50% of the time since discovering it for myself 6 months ago. A small sampling of the kind of stuff I like:

https://soundcloud.com/seven-lions/seven-lions-the-truth-1

https://soundcloud.com/andrewstets/andrew-stets-evolution-2029-original-mix

https://soundcloud.com/imushroommm/infected-mushroom-2

https://soundcloud.com/kalyascintilla/walkabout-kalya-scintillas

https://soundcloud.com/andrewstets/andrew-stets-dikanka

https://soundcloud.com/theglitchmob/the-prodigy-breathe-the-glitch

 

Anyway, that music sounds stellar with the 1K's. I don't know if you are familiar with the bass of the WS99's, but the 1K's have a similar bass. It doesn't pound your ears as much as the S500's do with their mid-bass, but it is deep, powerful, extended, fast, and yet controlled bass (and minimal if any bleeding into the mids) - a joy to crank up and get immersed in. It has a lot of impact without being fatiguing. For example, I don't ever feel the need to use the bass boost on my E12 or BH, but I just tried it with my E12, and instead of the bass becoming boomy or irritating, it just brings out more sub-bass, extension and power. So the 1K's handle bass very well - very similar to the WS99's as mentioned. Combine that with wonderful mids and a sparky, energetic treble (that is not sibilant), and it makes that music sound amazing - as good as I've heard it from an iem.

 

Again though, these don't have a real pounding bass though (like the S500's), so keep that in mind if that's important.


waynes world, I thank you for answering my question.  You did very well and your answer is quite helpful.

 

sfwalcer, did the miracle that you were praying for happened? or has it happened, yet?

post #263 of 558

Can't let good hype get lost in other threads lol! Copying over some CKS1000 hype/impressions from the discovery thread to here:

 

From dsnuts:

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Been listening to the XBA-3, CKN70 and the CKS1000.

 

Comparing the same tracks going from one to the others. It goes like this. The XBA-3 is like hearing your tunes in a concert hall from the center of the concert theater the CKN70 about 20 rows back and the CKS1000 is front row.

 

What I mean by this the XBA-3. Gives and overall picture of the tune that is not as close up as the others and I think because of how music is portrayed imagery is tops on these but the highs on them come out like tweeters for speakers more so than the other 2..Tissle but not much fizzle. I suppose it is the armature nature of the single firing tweeter that is on the XBA-3.  While some may see this as a negative and not as accurate sounding. I actually see it as one of the defining traits of the XBA-3.. Tweeters they are.. And tweeters they sound like. These are more geared for guys that like instruments and vocals and want that out of your head imagery and detail... Not so much for EDM and HIPHOP. 

 

The CKN70 is simply amazing for being a single micro hd..Great stage depth and presence of your favorite tracks. I am convinced these have the stiffest carbon nanotube drivers out of all of the JVC earphones and headphones that use the material. I have simply punished these things and they seem to like it. The overall sound is balanced very well but they do show a tendency for peaks in the upper ranges..Timbre detail is very nice which is one of the positive traits of the peaks in the region but the negative is they do still have some minor sibilance. So while not perfect.. It does gives all of us something to look forward to in their next iteration. Tip rolling help these get the best sound. I use Sony Hybrids which actually adds a bit more bass and mids to the highs

 

Fans of the tight closely knit defined music will find lots to like from the previous 2. The CKS1000 is simply a different earphone in a different realm. It uses some technology that is relatively new, cutting edge.. ( Dual air chambers)

I am sold on this technology ever since I bought my CKS77 but I don't feel the resolution in the drivers or the tuning on them was the best AT could do.. The CKS1000 on the other hand. It is a masterwork of many different engineering aspects that make them one of a kind type of earphone.. The XB90EX has some crazy deep mids but definition wise it could use some tightening. The CKS1000 addresses these issue with previous bass earphones.. These are bass earphones for the audiophile and for guys that like the bigger picture in their music.

 

What I mean by this. These CKS earphones actually project a bigger sound than the drivers emit using their filter filaments but the problem in doing this actually blots out definition of the sound. But not so on the CKS1000.  Definition is not only there but also gives an amount of depth on your tracks you can actually see with your hearing eye. It is the difference of enjoying a delux cheeseburger with 3 patties vs having just one with cheese.  Coloration? Sure but it is the type people enjoy and not the type that people don't. .What is it about your music do you enjoy so much? Is it the bass? Is it the emotion of the vocal track that reaches your soul? Is it the string instruments that stirs your memories of an important moment of your life?  The CKS1000 throws that emotion stirs that memory and then add to that the depth and resolution of the tune in their full glory..

 

The truth is I like all 3 quite a bit. Sure I listen to my CKS1000 more so than the others but everytime I have my CKN70 or my XBA-3 I enjoy them. It is cool to listen to how my tracks sound with one earphone and then switch it up for a different take.. That my friends is just 3X the love.

 

wayne's world:

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The CKS1000's seem kind of like a hybrid of the AD900X and the WS99 to me. The way they handle the bass is very much like 99's, and the mids are perfect (neither recessed or forward), and the treble is sparkly and energetic. They are very open and airy, with with very wide/deep soundstage, wonderful layering and instrument separation and imaging (like I haven't heard in an iem before). The overall effect is that they bring everything to life and you're immersed by the music. So far they have sounded absolutely amazing with all of the genres that I listen to (mainly electronic, rock, prog rock, pop, korean rap :) etc). So for me the 1K's are the better all-rounders.

 

ericp10:

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By the way, I don't care what the graphs say, the CKS1000 is the best sounding universal IEM I own right now. I have over 100 hours on it now, and the instrument separation and placement is just astonishing! It has great width and depth (back and forth) within the soundstage. The bass lives up to its name of "solid." Actually there's not too much or too little bass, it's just perfect and clean. Backing vocals are behind the lead vocals. I don't know if it's the driver they chose or this chamber system, but I have heard anything this good in a universal (especially a dynamic) accept for maybe the ASG-2. I'm still waiting to hear that again. And I still have love for my FXZ100 (it keeps getting better and better), but the CKS1000 still outpaces it. My advice would be to stop listening to those who comment on earphones/headphones just based on graphs, but who haven't actually heard the product. Sure, I will concede that a a FR can give a piece of the picture (sometimes), but it definitely can't give the whole picture until you've heard it yourself. Happy listening!

 

Just doing my part to keep they hype alive lol. Hopefully other folks will have the chance to experience these things smile.gif

post #264 of 558
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waynes world, I thank you for answering my question.  You did very well and your answer is quite helpful.

 

sfwalcer, did the miracle that you were praying for happened? or has it happened, yet?

yeppp, the miracle indeed happened, the bass is toned down resulting in faster and better bass quality and texture now. The mids and the highs are able to shine a lot more now due to the subdued bass so the overall sound is much more coherent and cohesive. It's even balanced to an extent but it is still has a more bass/ sub bass emphasis but don't really bleed into the rest of the sonic spectrum.

 

these FXZ200s are keepers now for sure, they are an amazing set of iems esp. for sub bass lovers, but the bass is there only when called for. The highs and mids are great now as well after so much burn-in. Very natural sounding set of iems and is very happy with them. deadhorse.gif


Edited by sfwalcer - 4/24/13 at 4:11pm
post #265 of 558
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By the way, I don't care what the graphs say, the XYZ is the best sounding universal IEM I own right now.

 

Lol, this pretty much sums up the portables forum in a single sentence. Insert a new XYZ every month or so. wink.gif

post #266 of 558

hmm

 

 

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While the real 1Ks aren't going to age with time. 

post #267 of 558
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hmm

 

 

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While the real 1Ks aren't going to age with time. 

hmm

 

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would you care to inform us WHICH iems for you have stood the test of time and is gonna "age with time" then???

 

For a sec i thought you were talking about wine. rolleyes.gif

 

post #268 of 558
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Lol, this pretty much sums up the portables forum in a single sentence. Insert a new XYZ every month or so. wink.gif

 

True, that happens often enough lol. But in this case the graph is magical, and these things are here for the long haul biggrin.gif

post #269 of 558
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Lol, this pretty much sums up the portables forum in a single sentence. Insert a new XYZ every month or so. wink.gif

 

 

While this may be true, james444, would you disagree that over the years (at least since you and I hav known each other in this forum) that the technology and tuning have increased significantly from the many of the universals offered at the time? I know you have pretty much stayed with the higher end universals (or that's mainly what I've seen you discuss in the last year or two), but I've heard quite a few IEMs at $150 or less that have surpassed the forum beloved TF10s and SE530/SE535 in sound quality as examples (imo and others too). And the choices are far more than there were a few years ago. This hobby is rapidly evolving. It's exciting times - hype train or not. 

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And james444, I'm curious, would you ever advise someone who has never heard an earphone, but is curious about it, to try it or not base on a FR posted? If you never heard an IEM, but read an unfavorable FR report, would you call that product "crap" just because of the report (again, you've never heard the product yourself)? And the FR is posted by someone who has never heard the product, so it's third-hand information. If yes or no, why?

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