The value of 840 Euros is about 1 Altmann Tera Player, right? lol

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Originally Posted by skamp 

What's not to understand? People try to measure it, then go silent and ignore me when I ask for news after a couple weeks have passed.

And are you really suggesting that I spend 840 euros just to get the satisfaction to be able to measure it? Have you completely lost touch with reality? Do you know the actual value of 840 euros?

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Originally Posted by skamp 

What's not to understand? People try to measure it, then go silent and ignore me when I ask for news after a couple weeks have passed.

And are you really suggesting that I spend 840 euros just to get the satisfaction to be able to measure it? Have you completely lost touch with reality? Do you know the actual value of 840 euros?

This is exactly what I mean. If you don't see it, I can't help it. You see things which and conspiracies which are not there. You answer is not very friendly. People here are in it for fun. Not serious or live threatening. 

Skamp, If you are seriously interested in buying a high priced DAP, which I assume you are, buy one. And sell it if you are not satisfied. Of course do not buy it only for the measurements. But why are you here if your are only interested in the measurements and not in the player itself as something you want to use yourself? 

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Originally Posted by skamp 


I could tell you exactly the same. The last guy messed up his measurements. I fixed it. Then he tried again. I shared my experience with him. I acted in good faith. Then he gives me the silent treatment and ignores me, like the guy before him.

I'm not really interested in debating about this anymore. The sheer opacity surrounding this product says enough about it.

I just thought I'd let everyone know about (the lack of) the latest news.

Words on a screen might be misguiding.  So I try to, but sometimes fail, to read the text with a positive attitude and start with the mindset people are to be trusted/friendly/honest/etc. If I read you posts the tone which you use is does not "sound" very friendly and welcoming. Maybe you are and it is just the effect of the plain words on the screen without facial expression, and intonation. Maybe this caused people to stop cooperating. I you write:

"The last guy messed up his measurements. I fixed it."

It does not sound very welcoming. I would also ignore you if that is the way you communicated. "C’est le ton qui fait la musique". You should know what that expression means being from France.

Your response above only goes into one, small, part of my post. Are you interested in buying it or just trying to uncover something?

 Chucky,

I know you have gone so probably won't get to read this but here goes. You need to be a part of this thread just as you needed to be a part of the now locked one. I agree with you entirely about the moderation but if you don;t participate the TROLLS HAVE WON.  

Why let arrogance, bad manners, ignorance and belligerence win out over an otherwise interesting and informative discussion. Your input, quirky humor and intelligence will be missed.   

On another note, i apologize for posting here since i am not a Terra owner, although my plan in to become one.

Guys,

If you're interested in auditioning a Tera Player (TP) there'll be one, possibly two of them present at the forthcoming London Head-Fi Meet listed on the landing page. It's planned to have a DAP `shootout' with comparisons made between the TP, DX100, HM-901 (if released) and the AK100. Whilst not at all scientific, such testing offers a chance to compare and contrast the DAPs sonic signatures.

Cheers,

Andy.

Here's the... 

Tera Player Owner's Thread

Here's the place we share our enjoyment, of being a TP owner 

Here's the place we share what equipments that go well with our TP

Here's the place we exchange ideas to get the most out of our TP

Do fellow TP owners need measurement/graphs?  Please raise your hands...I don't.

Cheers

Very well said!  

Andy.

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Originally Posted by flymetothemoon 

Here's the... 

Tera Player Owner's Thread

 

Here's the place we share our enjoyment, of being a TP owner 

 

Here's the place we share what equipments that go well with our TP

 

Here's the place we exchange ideas to get the most out of our TP

 

Do fellow TP owners need measurement/graphs?  Please raise your hands...I don't.

 

Cheers

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Originally Posted by smial1966 

Very well said!  

 

Andy.

 

Thanks Andy.

Let's do some sharing, shall we?

Can anyone share their best choice of IEMs that pair best with TP?

I'm now using Sony EX1000 IEMs and found very analytical.  Strangely with much better tonal balance when playing 24/88/96/192 when compared to red book CD 16/44 files.  Most, but not all, of the 16/44 sounds with a tendency in aggressive mids and highs.  The lows perform very well in 24/88/96/192 but only in some 16/44. 

Would wondering fellow TP owners have the same experience. Would like to know any IEMs that give you are using performed good balance across all genres and file types.

Cheers

I use the Tera Player with my Aurisonics AS-1's and AS-2's. They're CIEM's but that's just my style, they have generic versions which apparently sound quite similar. 

I have the latest model of the AS-1 AFAIK, and it kicks but. I use it for most rock, metal, dubstep, some pop stuff, just that general type of music where I want a little more bass for myself. It delivers the low end extremely well and probably the most clean and well controlled yet impactful bass I've heard from a portable without the use of my ZO2 or some other amp. AS-1 is kinda known for having an odd sound to it for the vocals. Originally meant for singers to use on stage the AS-1 has mids and treble that feel so close to each other its essentially impossible to get any sibilance. For this reason I love the two headphone jacks because it helps me EQ them to my needs. 

The AS-2 is similar to what you described. It's quite analytical. I hardly listen to some pop music or poorly recorded music when I pair them with the Tera Player. Between the two items if their is sibilance in the track it'll be easily apparent when I listen. "s" and "ch" sounds are your enemy here. When you find those well recorded and mastered tracks though, man is that something special. I used to own a Pico Slim and missed it's sweet sweet treble but I've found a similar effect in the Tera Player with the AS-2's on certain tracks. If you kick back and relax with the music it will take you on a journey.

To sum up my response, AS-1's good for poorly mastered tracks and ones you want to get a nice kick from. AS-2's good for those times you can be more analytical and wanna hear everything in a track. Which one have I fallen asleep on the beach with? AS-1 as it's much easier to enjoy every track as opposed to some tracks where being analytical isn't any fun and actually makes me cringe sometimes. I haven't noticed much difference quality wise in the different formatted tracks I use. They are all just slightly different, just more detailed/less detailed depending on how you would think. What I think you're experiencing is poor mastering when it comes to pressing a CD. I bet you get those hi-rez tracks from a site? Try downconverting those hi-rez tracks to 16/44.1 or 16/48 and see if this still happens. I find a lot that the music you buy online is different from the tracks you get from a CD of the same album. Take Radiohead's The King of Limbs album. The 320kbps mp3's they gave out during pre-order sound better than the red book CD they sent out because they compressed the hell out of the tracks. the dynamic range was killed. That's why I use my vinyl rips when I listen to it, which does not have that problem.

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Originally Posted by flymetothemoon 

Thanks Andy.

 

 

Let's do some sharing, shall we?

 

Can anyone share their best choice of IEMs that pair best with TP?

 

 

I'm now using Sony EX1000 IEMs and found very analytical.  Strangely with much better tonal balance when playing 24/88/96/192 when compared to red book CD 16/44 files.  Most, but not all, of the 16/44 sounds with a tendency in aggressive mids and highs.  The lows perform very well in 24/88/96/192 but only in some 16/44. 

 

Would wondering fellow TP owners have the same experience. Would like to know any IEMs that give you are using performed good balance across all genres and file types.

 

Cheers

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Originally Posted by kenman345 

I use the Tera Player with my Aurisonics AS-1's and AS-2's. They're CIEM's but that's just my style, they have generic versions which apparently sound quite similar. 

 

I have the latest model of the AS-1 AFAIK, and it kicks but. I use it for most rock, metal, dubstep, some pop stuff, just that general type of music where I want a little more bass for myself. It delivers the low end extremely well and probably the most clean and well controlled yet impactful bass I've heard from a portable without the use of my ZO2 or some other amp. AS-1 is kinda known for having an odd sound to it for the vocals. Originally meant for singers to use on stage the AS-1 has mids and treble that feel so close to each other its essentially impossible to get any sibilance. For this reason I love the two headphone jacks because it helps me EQ them to my needs. 

 

The AS-2 is similar to what you described. It's quite analytical. I hardly listen to some pop music or poorly recorded music when I pair them with the Tera Player. Between the two items if their is sibilance in the track it'll be easily apparent when I listen. "s" and "ch" sounds are your enemy here. When you find those well recorded and mastered tracks though, man is that something special. I used to own a Pico Slim and missed it's sweet sweet treble but I've found a similar effect in the Tera Player with the AS-2's on certain tracks. If you kick back and relax with the music it will take you on a journey.

 

To sum up my response, AS-1's good for poorly mastered tracks and ones you want to get a nice kick from. AS-2's good for those times you can be more analytical and wanna hear everything in a track. Which one have I fallen asleep on the beach with? AS-1 as it's much easier to enjoy every track as opposed to some tracks where being analytical isn't any fun and actually makes me cringe sometimes. I haven't noticed much difference quality wise in the different formatted tracks I use. They are all just slightly different, just more detailed/less detailed depending on how you would think. What I think you're experiencing is poor mastering when it comes to pressing a CD. I bet you get those hi-rez tracks from a site? Try downconverting those hi-rez tracks to 16/44.1 or 16/48 and see if this still happens. I find a lot that the music you buy online is different from the tracks you get from a CD of the same album. Take Radiohead's The King of Limbs album. The 320kbps mp3's they gave out during pre-order sound better than the red book CD they sent out because they compressed the hell out of the tracks. the dynamic range was killed. That's why I use my vinyl rips when I listen to it, which does not have that problem.

Thanks Andy.

This is all about sharing, isn't it.

I did those hi-rez purchases mostly from HDTracks and a few DSDs from Channel Classic & Blue Coast Records.  Didn't try to down sample those 24/88/96 to 16/44 and might try it out over coming weekend.

My TP now has over a week of break-in and the lows come up a bit more and here's my findings :

For pops and some high power music

When amped (with ADL Stride), it losts a bit of the finite details but gains a lot more punches.  The lows have even better definition than that of the Sony PCM D50 (to which extremely powerful low and high analytical mids/highs when drives direct to the EX1000, a top notch DAP).  The TP wins in definition, imaging, sound staging but lost in ultimate bass punches (when compared to D50, unamped).  When amped, TP is the clear winner across the entire music spectrum. 

For classical & 24/88/96/192 etc

Since the Sony won't play 24/88 & 192, so, there are albums that cannot be compared.  The TP shines in general as all albums that I play can obtain very good balance. 

Cheers

Louis

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Originally Posted by flymetothemoon 

Thanks Andy.

 

This is all about sharing, isn't it.

 

I did those hi-rez purchases mostly from HDTracks and a few DSDs from Channel Classic & Blue Coast Records.  Didn't try to down sample those 24/88/96 to 16/44 and might try it out over coming weekend.

My TP now has over a week of break-in and the lows come up a bit more and here's my findings :

 

For pops and some high power music

When amped (with ADL Stride), it losts a bit of the finite details but gains a lot more punches.  The lows have even better definition than that of the Sony PCM D50 (to which extremely powerful low and high analytical mids/highs when drives direct to the EX1000, a top notch DAP).  The TP wins in definition, imaging, sound staging but lost in ultimate bass punches (when compared to D50, unamped).  When amped, TP is the clear winner across the entire music spectrum. 

 

For classical & 24/88/96/192 etc

Since the Sony won't play 24/88 & 192, so, there are albums that cannot be compared.  The TP shines in general as all albums that I play can obtain very good balance. 

 

Cheers

 

Louis

The names Ken....but yea, try downconverting. I think what you're coming across is the real problem with Red Book quality music. It's why I rather buy an album that's 24/48 from HDTracks over the CD version. Something about when they prep it for CD changes the dynamics a lot. People often mistake this as the reason they hear more from high-rez music, but really it's not that much of a difference.