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post #151 of 176

I keep revisiting the HP800. These are really large sounding cans. They have a huge sound, like what one would hear from a pair of very large loudspeakers in a large room.

post #152 of 176

I'm really enjoying them for movies (though the top of my head starts to hurt after the first hour). 

post #153 of 176

I've been using HP-800 for couple of weeks by now and here is my conclusion:

 

Pros:

+ very dynamic, fun sound - fun in a good way

+ heavy and quick bass

+ nice, wide stage considering its close design

+ precise and very pleasant sound

+ easy to drive - portable player will do however these cans like headphone amp a lot

+ detachable cables

+ decent build quality

+ construction looks durable

+ nice design - black mat finish + gold logo and red carped inside

+ very comfortable - pressure to the ears is perfect to my preferences

++ price

 

Cons: 

- very heavy, I mean C'mon, 320g without cables, even Beyer DT770 is 20g lighter and most full-size constructions is rather closer to 250g. The weight difference just requires some time to get use to it

- only 2m cable with decent clothing, the second cable is thin cord (IEM like) 1,2m long, Why so short? The standard is 3m.

- rather average acoustic isolation

 

 

In my opinion HP-800 are very good for gaming, movies and some of music genres like rock, hard rock, rock and roll, country, pop, hip-hop and everything where quite visible bas can spred its wings. I admit when I first put these cans on my head i played Blood Of The Titan and Killing Spree (Two Steps From Hell) - my jaw dropped two stairs bellow. They generate a lot of sound pressure and to my ears they are one of the best/pleasent sounding closed headphones I've ever tried. HP-800 feels quite good also in some classical stuff, but here I'd rather prefer open cans. In sould and some jazz the bass speaks too often and a bit much too visible. But now we're talking about preferences. 

Ahhh just to be clear, I love bright sound with a huge stage - I'm an open-design lover, but these closed one are excellent as an addition to my Sennheiser HD555 (with foam mod). 

 

Many times a dip around 400Hz was mentioned here in this topic. I may confirm there is visible drop in range 360-410 to my ear, but I can catch this only while using a freq generator. Music sounds very good, so I'm not bothered by that at all. 

 

Tested with iPod Nano 4G, FiiO E9i,  Denon AVR-1906 + DVD-1920 and portable amp NuForce MMP.

I finished a big review of these cans, this will be published on one of the Polish sites, I’ll link it as soon as it’s online – there is a lot of pictures, maybe you’ll find some of it interesting.


Edited by NimnuL - 7/25/13 at 1:43am
post #154 of 176

My review has been published: 

http://twojepc.pl/artykuly.php?id=Test-sluchawek-NuForce-HP-800&jedna_strona=1

I know, it's in Polish, but mabe you wish to see detailed pictures. 

post #155 of 176
Just got these yesterday thanks to Nuforce. I hadn't read about them prior to hearing them yesterday. Not this thread, not any publications. Nuforce reached out to me, and I was like 'sure'.

Holy 400hz dip batman! I fired up Sinegen, and that is one huge cliff... is it just me? It's pretty obvious to my ears. Like...really.

Initial impressions:

Bassy. Mostly just bassy. Very good bass actually, though pretty well above everything else, even if it doesn't smother the other frequencies. If you like bass, you'll be happy.

Mids are recessed to the point of it being obvious to newbies. If you like mids, well... the HP-800 just aren't good here.

Treble is inoffensive. Non-fatiguing, and velvety, with a hiiiiiint of sparkle here and there, but not much.

The headphone is dark. Very dark. To the point of it being kind of muffled/stuffy sounding. You will want to pair it up with something brighter than neutral, IMHO.

Soundstage so far seems to be decent for a closed headphone with a club type sense of space, which ultimately means it's okay in the grand scheme of things.

Comfort? Hmm... The pads are soft as all hell, but they are pleather and I hate pleather. Also, the headphone wants to ride up my head, so they push upwards a little. the pads could stand to have a wider opening and be deeper. My ears are crush against the driver cover. So, not very comfortable to me.

Not sure what to think of them... but they wouldn't be my first, second or third choice in the $150 range. I'll give them their time in the sun, but I'm somewhat meh about them. I love dark headphones as much as anyone else (HD650, LCD2, Mad Dogs, ESW9, Creative Aurvana Live), but these just come off muted. Probably worth EQ-ing, but I'm not about that.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 8/2/13 at 6:22am
post #156 of 176
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Just got these yesterday thanks to Nuforce. I hadn't read about them prior to hearing them yesterday. Not this thread, not any publications. Nuforce reached out to me, and I was like 'sure'.

Holy 400hz dip batman! I fired up Sinegen, and that is one huge cliff... is it just me? It's pretty obvious to my ears. Like...really.

Initial impressions:

Bassy. Mostly just bassy. Very good bass actually, though pretty well above everything else, even if it doesn't smother the other frequencies. If you like bass, you'll be happy.

Mids are recessed to the point of it being obvious to newbies. If you like mids, well... the HP-800 just aren't good here.

Treble is inoffensive. Non-fatiguing, and velvety, with a hiiiiiint of sparkle here and there, but not much.

The headphone is dark. Very dark. To the point of it being kind of muffled/stuffy sounding. You will want to pair it up with something brighter than neutral, IMHO.

 

 

 

What source did you use with them? 

I notices they sound decent with bright or natural source and very deep and slow with dark one. 

 

Do you notice a 400Hz dip while listening to the music or just sinegen? 


Edited by NimnuL - 8/2/13 at 6:22am
post #157 of 176
So far I'm just running them unamped/etc as I just sold off most my things (my e12 will come soon). I wish I'd have held on to my Sabre ES9018 equipped Compass 2 to test these out, but oh well. I'm a skeptic, and nothing changes that drastically, contrary to the head-fi hyperbole. I however don't believe in headphones changing to night and day depending on sources from my experiences with what I have owned, especially headphones as pathetically easy to drive as this. It'd have to be an EQ-level brightness boost to make me think these be noticeably clearer sounding.

The dip was just off Sinegen. I don't tend to pick apart sound frequencies like that in normal listening, unless it's some serious treble peak. The HP-800 is recessed sounding as a whole, other than the bass. It's bass first, everything else quite a bit distant with these cans.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 8/2/13 at 6:28am
post #158 of 176

I actually didn't consider them dark and my reference closed headphone is the Ultrasone Signature DJ, so I am not a fan of dark cans. Their bass is spectacular, if overpowering even for a basshead like me.  I agree that the midrange presentation is less than ideal and you may notice they distort more than they should at moderately high listening levels.
 

post #159 of 176
I'm absolutely surprised by how good these are for gaming through Dolby Headphone. Very good soundstage for a closed headphone, and the fact that the mids up to the treble is relatively linear, make the HP800 a very good sound signature for gaming. Color me surprised.

They are quite dark, and it may initially put you off, but once you adjust, there really isn't anything missing. Not the most detailed headphone, and while the bass is big, it's actually pretty good bass, it doesn't force itself over the mids. So all in all, you get QUITE a competent closed headphone for all around use, assuming you get over their darkness.

I'm surprised at how incredibly well it keeps noise from leaking out. This would easily pass the 'girlfriend is sleeping next to me' test. It doesn't isolate that well (marginally better than the CAL at keeping external noise out), but in terms of not bothering anyone else, these are a huge win.

I have much, much more testing to do with them.

It's crazy. Not crazy about them for music, but for fun and competitive gaming, these are very good, in terms of closed headphones.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 8/3/13 at 6:07am
post #160 of 176

Your impressions match my own fairly well: http://www.head-fi.org/t/647966/review-nuforce-hp-800-fat-bottomed-girls-you-make-the-rockin-world-go-round

 

I too felt they were really dark the first day I tried them, then the next day hardly noticed. Agreed that they're not the best for music. I like them for movies though. My only comfort gripe is the headband, where I wish it were a little softer and less rubbery/sticky.

post #161 of 176
I don't particularly like it's comfort myself. The headphone wants to rise up and pull up against my ears, and the pad openings are too small and not deep enough, so my ears both press against the pads and the driver covers. I'm also very anti-pleather as it just induces sweat and gets sticky. All in all, it's merely passable for me in terms of comfort.

I do still notice it's darkness quite easily, which does put me off a bit when it kicks in, but once I'm busy playing, that feeling goes away, and I just hear a solid headphone.
post #162 of 176
I'm warming up to the HP-800. It's definitely a headphone you have to spend like a week with.

I don't know if it's because I've now paired it up with the E12, but it sounds so much better than I initially thought. I'm quite fond of it. It's still definitely bassy as all hell, and warmer than basically anything I've used of late, but it's quite enjoyable and fatigue free. I'm digging the sound.
post #163 of 176

I agree that it is smooth and fatigue free, I can adjust to this sound for a while. But it is so huge and the bass is like a giant rolling ball of cotton that is about to roll over you.

post #164 of 176
Beagle, I'm currently writing in my review of the HP-800 for my gaming guide (I'm just writing in and changing as my experience matures with the HP-800) but that is QUITE close to what i wrote about it. HAHAHA.
post #165 of 176
Thread Starter 

Nice to see more reviews for it.

MLE, do you believe that they are excellent in their price bracket?

 

BTW,

 

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_65229_NuForce-HP-800-HP800-Professional-Over-Ear-Headphones.html

 

they are at $110 from there...

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