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For Australians --- Dick Smith has these on sale now for $9 starting Boxing Day tomorrow, not sure when it finishes, so whoever would like to try, please rush to your nearest Dick Smith

post #92 of 365

Retail price i think was ~30, but i overheard one of the guys working there telling a customer the reason they don't do refunds is that it is not their stock, they are just liquidators for other people. So I don't think at any point these will be at the normal outside world prices, which is fine I can maybe add to my stockpile some more.

 

wow thankyou for that tip link.

post #93 of 365
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Retail price i think was ~30, but i overheard one of the guys working there telling a customer the reason they don't do refunds is that it is not their stock, they are just liquidators for other people. So I don't think at any point these will be at the normal outside world prices, which is fine I can maybe add to my stockpile some more.

 

wow thankyou for that tip link.

 

Yeah, they have tons of other style tips apart from that as well. Love all the different sizes (especially the blue SM). Grab some as much as you can, it is the holidays, after all!

 

Wow, it actually is Christmas right now. Merry X-Mas, everyone!

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OK, so I've had these MT300 for a couple of days and have put in about 24 play/burn time and 15 more hours listening to them.  Straight, no EQ, they are pretty "dark" to me, which to me means fairly bass heavy and dull in the treble regions.  Once I tone down the bass and mid-bass (70-400 hz regions) and bring up the mid thru treble regions, they have a very natural sound and timbre that the Philip SHE-3580/90 don't quite have.  Also a fairly wide soundstage with good side-to-side imaging.

Of course, a completely different sound compared to the ER-4P -- I do almost exact opposite EQ on the ER-4P as I do these TDK.  As expected, there is a still a level of details that the TDK just doesn't reproduce, and the instrument placement is not quite as precise as the ER-4P, but again it has a warm and rounded timbre that is hard for the BA-driven ER-4P to reproduce.

 

Also, I find it very tip-dependent, and my set seems to have a slight L-R imbalance toward the left channel.

 

But apart from these slight issues, I'm enjoying them as a nice rich and fun contrast to the ER-4P.

 

Aside from the earlier "SWEET GEEZUS" from Nyanman, this is one of the stronger reports we've seen from these.  Thanks.  Good to know they're "contrasting" some ER-4Ps!

 

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Best not to risk it and just buy 33. XSCargo in Richmond still won't bring them out (doubt they don't have them like they said to me before). 

 

Loving them with the bass reducer EQ on the iPod for some reason. And I usually hate those presets. A nicely balanced set, like a 8320 with some heft in the mids. These could start to replace a lot of things in my inventory. 

 

I've finally found the perfect tips! Realized the SM Hybrids were too large, which was why the seal wasn't working. Switched to the SL (yellow ones), and damn. Perfect seal. My goldilocks tips. Now I can just relax and enjoy!

I think XSCargo sees you coming and hides them.

 

The above two posts about EQing got me to try the "Bass Lower" EQ on my Blackberry (yes, begin making fun of my source).  It actually works really well!  Some tracks I was getting surprised by a bit too much bass and these TDKs are still really nice with a Blackberry EQ of all things...

 

These have set a new standard in my collection too - time for some Boxing Day culling!

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Aside from the earlier "SWEET GEEZUS" from Nyanman, this is one of the stronger reports we've seen from these.  Thanks.  Good to know they're "contrasting" some ER-4Ps!

 

I think XSCargo sees you coming and hides them.

 

The above two posts about EQing got me to try the "Bass Lower" EQ on my Blackberry (yes, begin making fun of my source).  It actually works really well!  Some tracks I was getting surprised by a bit too much bass and these TDKs are still really nice with a Blackberry EQ of all things...

 

These have set a new standard in my collection too - time for some Boxing Day culling!

Can confirm that they are a nice contrast to the 4Ps. 

 

Well I guess they do hate my face (whenever I see an employee there, which is far and in between). Could someone else try the Richmond branch near Memory Express to see if it's not just me?

 

Well I did get a used Blackberry from FreeGeek after you recommended them as a DAP, they were pretty good. So don't sell yourself short. This unit's dying out though. Something magic happens after the Bass Reducer preset. Immediately puts my custom EQ curve I've been tuning with these for days to shame, without even trying.

post #96 of 365

Alright, so I promised and thus I deliver! Note that the below is subjective; YMMV depending on the tips used and your ears in general. This one is based on MH1C medium tips.

 

For $5 these are quite awesome, hands down.

 

Packaging:

Fairly simple and straightforward. Looks nice and works well at keeping the goods in proper shape.

I did have some trouble removing one of the earbuds out though, and with the very thin cables it was almost scary trying to pull it out by yanking on the cable.

Solved by using flat head pliers. This shouldn't have been required!! Maybe it was just me though.

 

Accessories:

Just silicone tips of the various standard sizes. No shirt clip or additional accessories such as 1/4" adapters or airline adapters. Most IEMs nowadays don't include those anyway, not to mention at this price point.

 

There is a slider on the cables.

 

Fit & Comfort:

At first I was worried I'd have fit problems with these. considering I've always had problems with IEMs fitting properly, these have been quite good. Up till now the best fitting IEMs I've had are still my trusty JBL Reference 220, UE500 w/ comply tips, and MH1C in this order. The rest just don't stay at all. This one's fit with MH1C tips (stock ones are not bad but not as good) would actually find its way on par with the UE500 w/ comply tips.

 

While the thin cables came as a caveat, they're also a blessing for wearing over ears. The MH1C for example, whose cables are flat, can get really annoying to wear over ears. *AHEM* a correction here: MH1C is a headset so left side is practically unwearable over ears.

 

As far as the earphone shape these have, they do stick out a bit and the aluminum housing hardly touches the rest of my ears. This does give a bit of a cantilever effect when worn straight down, but worn over-ears this problem is non-existent.

 

Another detail about the fit will be regarding the fit of tips on these IEMs. Standard size tips may not fit, and super small ones (like the Shures) will not either. I'm talking about the center tube part of the tips.

 

Lastly, because of the aluminum housing, in regions of extreme temperatures (or just anything out of the mild range) the IEMs can get really cold and hot to the touch. This can inhibit it's use but is nothing but common situations for metallic casings. Just a thought, really.

 

Isolation:

I've seen better, but also MUCH worse. Overall in terms of isolation I do find these quite decent. I can use them on the bus/metro without needing to raise the volume much.

 

Build Quality:

I'm not always a huge aluminum housing fan; they tend to dent easily and any such deformation is more apparent than on plastic. The fact that the exterior of the housing is sort of wavy/corrugated, this means the outmost layer is much narrower at any given location and thus even easier to dent. Aesthetic damage. This does however provide better protection to the drivers capsule, which matter a lot more. While I don't mind it much at all, I've already gotten two dents in the housing and it hasn't been too long. I wonder what they bumped onto in my room... probably my receiver!

 

The cables, as previously mentioned, are pretty thin. This is the thinnest I've ever owned, and hope I won't destroy them too quickly. There's also very little strain relief near the ends. As many have mentioned already, but at this price point we kind of doubt they are designed to last forever anyways (which sort of puts into question why aluminum, unless it was for sonic attributes).

 

Sound:

The most important part! and the part I can't really compare to anything else (ref220 is super old and originally sold for $99 in Canada, lost my MH1C, UE500 are long gone)... so I'll have to do it by memory. For now I'll just say that of all the IEMs I've owned, these resemble the hisoundaudio POPO and Sony MH1C most.

 

Overall I can very vaguely call these to have a warm/mellow sound signature without the implication of a totally lacking treble.

 

Soundstage: Let's start with this. I find the soundstage on these pretty amazing. While I don't usually sport any 'phones with big soundstage to begin with (I do have access to a Q701 though and quite frankly the SS is too big and chaotic for me) but these do actually trump some of my supra-aural planar headphones in this department. Comparing back to previous IEM's I've owned, the hisoundaudio POPO also had decently spacious stage but these feel more natural. Don't quite remember the MH1C's SS...

 

Now if I were to compare the soundstage to, say, the HiFiMAN RE-272, which are quite amazing in that aspect... these definitely get trumped. But the RE-272 has a disconnection between the ears and the large sound stage, so these are much more natural and appreciated in my ears.

 

Bass: These ARE on the bass heavy side, afterall. Although a little much to my preference pre-EQ, I do find the bass well extending and well defined. Pretty tight for most of my music genres, unlike the POPO which was kind of muddy in comparison. The one genre where bass did not seem fast enough was in some classical/orchestrated types where there's a lot of PRAT involved with cello and piano. Now I don't remember clearly whether the MH1C or these would have more in quantity, or which wins in bass quality, but I do remember getting headaches from the Sony's. These ones haven't been as bad, so that's a plus. I am quite sensitive with that, by the way.

 

Despite the large amount of overall bass, they do not in most cases get in the way of the midrange. While bass extension is good, the bass 'texture' is certainly not on par with some of my planars... but boy that is going REAL far and wide to find any comparison! For what matters as dynamic IEMs, they do a good job.

 

Treble: I won't lie: I don't pay too much attention to treble unless it's in excess. They seem to not extend as far (or as sharply), based on my usual test track. Without EQ, for some the treble might sound a little dry, but not to a displeasing extent. Classical music still sounds very good with these, although if you are looking to, say, listen to the way violinists are handling the bow, these probably won't have enough detail from the upper register. Overall though, tracks do have enough details. The MH1C might have more detail and better treble extension but I also can't use them for extended periods due to what feels to me like some spikes.

 

I practically can't hear upwards of 17kHz at normal volumes anymore, if that might be a limiting factor. I am, however, very sensitive to treble spikes and these certainly don't have any piercing sounds that would bother me!

 

Midrange: Midrange! The midrange is without a doubt overshadowed by the bass quantity, though not destroyed by it. The midrange is nice and lush, though not perfect either: something feels missing. Listening to tracks with higher pitched male vocals or simply female vocals, it feels like their voices are just a slight deeper sounding. By this I mean part of the higher register of their voice is lacking in amount. I don't have any pin-point frequency range to shoot at but if I had to guess based on my other headphone with too much in this range, it probably is in the 2kHz~4kHz range. The high mids, according to the interactive frequency chart. This seems like something I find often in bass-heavier 'phones.

 

Though note that the vocal is slightly off timbre but still within norms. Oddly enough, it seems also as if not all voices suffer from this. Sometimes they sound very clear, and some other tracks they sound like they're singing through face masks. In comparison, the POPO sounded quite tinny in the mids due to similar problems, but the problem there was much graver.

 

Overall Value:

Of great darn value! My first impression when receiving these from nick was "darn, are cheap priced earphones now all this good sounding or is this one just ridiculously good for the price?" The excess in bass works quite well with the Bass Reducer EQ on my phone, and while I don't normally EQ these will have it when using them at home. On the go I leave them without EQ intervention. It helps that they fit in my sound preference, albeit with a bit too much bass w/o EQ, though.

 

I've stopped wearing IEMs for a while (since the ref220 are comfortable but have zero bass in any noisy environment... I think they're semi-open/open back afterall), only to be brought back by the MH1C. Then I lost them, and Nick sent me a pair of these... quite frankly if I had to choose for the same higher price of the MH1C I would pick these over the Sony.

 

Ratings in numbers? naw... 

 

 

 

Changelog: (Click to show)

(28/12/12)- Added note on MH1C in the Build Quality section

(02/01/13)- Fixed a typo and added one detail.

(07/01/12)- Temperature.


Edited by kalbee - 1/7/13 at 12:55pm
post #97 of 365

inline79 sold me these(at cost) at work the other day on the condition that I leave my impressions in this thread. 

 

I am more than happy to oblige.

 

I suck at describing sound so I'll just give you guys my thoughts..

 

They are great, and without a doubt the best value headphone/earbud you can buy. If I had not been told the price, I could have been easily convinced they were purchased for $75+.

 

Overall a fantastic buy, even if you already have better earbuds. I'll be going to XS soon to pick up a couple of more pairs. 

 

Thanks again inline79 for introducing me to these earbuds. 

post #98 of 365

50+ hours burn in and I am still sticking to my initial impression

  1. Bassy, with bleeds
  2. Rolled off and laid back treble

 

Who knows once I found the perfect sealing tips my impression might change, but as I state previously I still can't find me a perfect tips for this, the angled nozzle sits funny in my canal and no matter what I do, I can't get a full seal

post #99 of 365

k, was doing some routine pre-Xmas shopping near Chinook Mall (Calgary) when i dropped by xscargo & saw these things for <$5. did a quick google on them & found this thread espousing its virtues so i had to get a set.

 

after a 2day burn in (found them abit bassy & slightly harsh in highs too initially), bass is reasonably toned down (though no way subdued), i am doing a direct comparo with some Sony MH1Cs as we speak. relatively speaking, the TDKs has a bit of bass bleed which makes the (male esp) voice a bit more nasal. highs are still very slighty harsh & lack some refinement. these are more V-shaped in the freq as the mids are more in the background. width of soundstage is about ave for IEMs (ie good imo) & lack some depth.

 

all this in direct comparo with MH1Cs ofcos. i would say the sonys presents a more natural, softer sound which coupled with the forward mids make for a very intimate listen. the TDKs are more agressive and grainier. SQ i much prefer the Sonys as i find them more technically & sonically more competent, however the Sonys has that infernally thick (& difficult) cable & fit while good, is def more finicky & it doesnt disappear in my ear. OTOH i find the TDKs supremely comfy (the L tips fit me perfect) and i can hardly feel it once in. the lack of microphonics is a total bonus & ofcos its <5x the price of the MH1Cs.

 

this is a great buy guys. i can say for certain there will NOT be a better value than these TDKs for <$5! it kicks ass & im a gonna stock up on them in the next few days! good luck finding them in Cowtown with me around! lols

 

edited: forgot to say a thxs a mil to inline79 for catching these great buy for us cheapophiles! beerchug.gif


Edited by scottiebabie - 12/26/12 at 11:32am
post #100 of 365

So the $5 price for these TDKs are only for Canadians??? Looked them up online and they go for like ~$20.  Man do i love my MH1Cs, and can deal with the cable after i taped it into a Y one but................. if these TDKs are on par with these Sony's then it's a pretty crazy for the price even at $20. The sony's would have been the deal of the year if not for that crappy cable sigh. For me they are better than my JVC FXD 70s, cuz of it's fun bassy smooth refined sound. Looks like i got some reading to do haha, and SUBBED!!!

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So the $5 price for these TDKs are only for Canadians??? Looked them up online and they go for like ~$20.  Man do i love my MH1Cs, and can deal with the cable after i taped it into a Y one but................. if these TDKs are on par with these Sony's then it's a pretty crazy for the price even at $20. The sony's would have been the deal of the year if not for that crappy cable sigh. For me they are better than my JVC FXD 70s, cuz of it's fun bassy smooth refined sound. Looks like i got some reading to do haha, and SUBBED!!!

 

I won't even factor in the the mh1c's cable (or the fact that they require a lot of juice), because that would just be mean. So just SQ-wise, I like the TDK's more than the mh1c's. The mh1c's sound great and are very easy to listen to, but the mids with the tdk's are more forward (with awesome tight and punchy bass and sub-bass), and that sound is simply quite engaging and addictive to me. In fact, although my xba3's (and fxd70's) are technically better in many ways (ie more detailed), I have pretty much been listening exclusively to these tdk's since I got them. Craziness!

 

If I had a spare set, I'd fire them off to you (I actually did have a few spares, but then I let various members of my family listen to them, and poof - they're gone lol!). And I don't have an xscargo store nearby, so I can't snag you a pair. Sorry my friend!

post #102 of 365
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I won't even factor in the the mh1c's cable (or the fact that they require a lot of juice), because that would just be mean. So just SQ-wise, I like the TDK's more than the mh1c's. The mh1c's sound great and are very easy to listen to, but the mids with the tdk's are more forward (with awesome tight and punchy bass and sub-bass), and that sound is simply quite engaging and addictive to me. In fact, although my xba3's (and fxd70's) are technically better in many ways (ie more detailed), I have pretty much been listening exclusively to these tdk's since I got them. Craziness!

 

If I had a spare set, I'd fire them off to you (I actually did have a few spares, but then I let various members of my family listen to them, and poof - they're gone lol!). And I don't have an xscargo store nearby, so I can't snag you a pair. Sorry my friend!

WoW that's great to hear WAYNE. Looks like these are even more bang for the buck than the sony's if you can get it for $5, just too much craziness in the iem world these days. haha 

 

Thanks for the offer buddy, it's the thought that counts so good to know that most headfiers are such cools peps.  beerchug.gif

 

Off topic but hey did you get your cheapo ele dac yet??? Man the sound is so clean and detailed, sounds freakin' amazing with my MH1Cs and S500s, not so much with my fxd70s or my other cheapo jvc sadly. I think this ele gels better with more "warm" sounding cans/ iem cuz of its clean sound. Too bad the stupid left and right channels are reversed, LoL.

post #103 of 365
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WoW that's great to hear WAYNE. Looks like these are even more bang for the buck than the sony's if you can get it for $5, just too much craziness in the iem world these days. haha

 

I'll try anything to stop (or even delay) me from spending $250 on those damned fxz200's lol! (and so far, the tdk's are doing a great job of that thank you!).

 

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Thanks for the offer buddy, it's the thought that counts so good to know that most headfiers are such cools peps.  beerchug.gif

 

You got that right - good people in these parts! If I do ever get near an xscargo, I'll snag you a pair for sure.

 

 

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Off topic but hey did you get your cheapo ele dac yet???

 

Maybe this answers your question?: confused.gifconfused_face(1).gifmad.gifmad.gifmad.gif

 

Lol! My guess is that they will get here on the 30 day mark (which will be in 2 days). Fingers crossed!

 

 

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Man the sound is so clean and detailed, sounds freakin' amazing with my MH1Cs and S500s, not so much with my fxd70s or my other cheapo jvc sadly. I think this ele gels better with more "warm" sounding cans/ iem cuz of its clean sound. Too bad the stupid left and right channels are reversed, LoL.

 

I'm really looking forward to it!  And hopefully I will win the "they got the left/right channel right" sweepstakes!

post #104 of 365

Oh mang look what Santa Nick n sent me.

 

700

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Oh mang look what Santa Nick n sent me.

 

 

Santa Nick is the best! These are very tip dependent, so make sure you play around. I really like the mid sized mh1c tips on them. And I know that you don't believe in burn-in (ha ha), but 10 hours or so is a good start. I wish though that you hadn't gotten the fxz's, because they have spoiled you!

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