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Originally Posted by Surfaced View Post

 I am well aware that the Magni / Modi are absolute entry-level. But people have been saying (here, Amazon, and several other places) that the value is nearly unprecedented. I figured this was a reasonable place to start, and I think it was very fair to expect some kind of perceptible improvement in going from paying $0 to paying ~$200. (I would expect less if I went from $200 to $1000). If a curious consumer doesn't feel a beneficial experience from a safe first investment, they probably won't bother investing again.
I'd say it isn't really the M&M that is letting you down. Rather, it is the built-in sound (DAC) on your Mac that is already pretty good to start with. Add the fact that you were using IEMs that require very little power to drive (ie. you don't need some super powerful amp to provide enough juice), and we have what you described -- not very much improvement over your existing setup.

Had you been listening to some onboard Realtek HD audio that are common place on PC motherboards, and had you been using some higher impedence and/or power hungry cans, I'm sure you'd notice a major difference between the two.
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The quality of your music files will also affect the sound as well. If you are only listening to mp3's or YouTube, some highly compressed music from those sources will not scale as high as clean, fresh uncompressed files will, no matter the amp/DAC used.

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As much as any format makes a difference, you have to take into account the mastering of the recording.  A crappy master encoded into flac will still sound crappy.

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The quality of your music files will also affect the sound as well. If you are only listening to mp3's or YouTube, some highly compressed music from those sources will not scale as high as clean, fresh uncompressed files will, no matter the amp/DAC used.

I will do more listening tests but many of the recordings I was using before were FLAC-->ALAC converts, high bitrate AAC, or 256kbps+ MP3. In the past I've been unable to distinguish ALAC from 320kbps MP3.

 

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As much as any format makes a difference, you have to take into account the mastering of the recording.  A crappy master encoded into flac will still sound crappy.

 

True enough.

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I will do more listening tests but many of the recordings I was using before were FLAC-->ALAC converts, high bitrate AAC, or 256kbps+ MP3. In the past I've been unable to distinguish ALAC from 320kbps MP3.

 

 

True enough.

 

"A man convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still."

 

I still think you should box them up and send them back, and stop insisting that we've somehow sold you a bill of goods. Clearly, you're not in need of any assistance. Clearly, you're disappointed and you want to blame someone. Honestly, it's not our fault that you're not impressed. Peachy. Send them back, plug your IEM's into your Mac, and watch some Netflix. Peace.

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"A man convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still."

 

I still think you should box them up and send them back, and stop insisting that we've somehow sold you a bill of goods. Clearly, you're not in need of any assistance. Clearly, you're disappointed and you want to blame someone. Honestly, it's not our fault that you're not impressed. Peachy. Send them back, plug your IEM's into your Mac, and watch some Netflix. Peace.

 

No, I think you have the wrong impression. I am disappointed but I am not looking to blame anyone. I was seeking to add my personal experience to the thread so that others in a similar situation may have a better idea of what to expect. If someone searches "Magni Modi IEMs" on Google, my post in this thread will probably be in the search results.

 

Also, was that Netflix part necessary? Never heard it before, but given the highly-compressed nature of those streams I'm getting a condescending vibe. 

 

I am keeping the DAC + amp. They weren't that expensive, and for the price I will enjoy the reassurance that I'm getting a more complete use of my D2000s.


Edited by Surfaced - 4/12/14 at 9:47am
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Enjoy some music.  :beerchug:

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Originally Posted by Surfaced View Post
 

No, I think you have the wrong impression. I am disappointed but I am not looking to blame anyone. I was seeking to add my personal experience to the thread so that others in a similar situation may have a better idea of what to expect. If someone searches "Magni Modi IEMs" on Google, my post in this thread will probably be in the search results.

Completely reasonable expectations and completely reasonable conclusions. The internet thanks you for your opinion. If it doesn't sound different to you on the stuff you have, or not at least $200 better, by all means consider returning it. Maybe the market for $99 non-portable DACs/AMPs doesn't make sense.

 

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Also, was that Netflix part necessary?

Nope it wasn't. I Even if you did listen to 128K MP3's, you could make a pretty reasonable argument that low-bitrate lossy music should still sound better with an amp/DAC in many scenarios. I know you said you didn't, but that's your choice and you shouldn't have to answer to anyone about it. 

 

Personally, when I demo new audio gear, I go out of my way to pick pieces of music with certain characteristics to make sure I put things through the gauntlet. Different types of instruments, different genres of music, etc. Simple things like "does this instrument sound more like a real version of this instrument"? At the end of the day, the stuff I choose is stuff I know and like. If you did the same thing and your reaction was "meh", so what?

 

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Originally Posted by Surfaced View Post
 

I am keeping the DAC + amp. They weren't that expensive, and for the price I will enjoy the reassurance that I'm getting a more complete use of my D2000s.

Enjoy the piece of mind. :) I might end up doing the same thing. Only problem is I just bought 4 new sets of amps/dacs and I'm not sure I really need all 4 of them...

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Originally Posted by Surfaced View Post
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Also, was that Netflix part necessary? Never heard it before, but given the highly-compressed nature of those streams I'm getting a condescending vibe. 

 

Necessary? As in, you took offense? Wow. I didn't mean to imply anything at all by suggesting you listen to Netflix. If you somehow manufactured an insult out of that comment, well, that was your own doing, not mine.

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