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post #46 of 261
1/2/13 at 3:41pm

Cheesus Christ, if I turn on the BBE equalicer of my J3 the SM64 suddenly become absolute bass-monsters!
Didn't happened with my TF10...weird.

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post #47 of 261
1/3/13 at 8:42am

interested on these...more impressions please etysmile.gif

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post #48 of 261
1/3/13 at 12:17pm

Hmm still need a bit more "brain-burn in".
Everytime I put them in (very good isolation and comfort btw), the first thought that comes to my mind when I start playing a track is:"Oooooh....well....cool, I guess"

But after like 3 or 4 minutes my mind just screams: "Don't even think about turning the music off!"
The sound signature isn't a very fun-sounding one (pretty neutral), but it sure is a lot of fun for me to listen to music with this little gems :)
I think I don't miss my TF10 anymore.

And the already mentioned recessed upper mids are a bit weird. Sometimes they really do sound recessed but the next day, the exact same track sounds completely normal to me.
So this might just be me :P

I really hope that I will receive the iBasso amp tomorrow. And next week I will hopefully get my Silverray cable back from Headphonelounge.

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post #49 of 261
1/7/13 at 2:39am

someone compare it with sm3 !

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post #50 of 261
1/7/13 at 8:15am

Oh, that would be very interesting :D
I ordered the SM3 one day before Earsonics announced the SM64...I choose to jump in at the deep end and changed my order to the SM64, hoping for a sound, similar to the SM3.


The iBasso sure helped me to amp up the SM64 and now I can listen to them with proper volume :P I don't think it changed much SQ-wise.
I also started to use the eq of my Cowon (am I a bad person for using it?). I set the BBE to 5 and now the sound is way more lively!

I think SQ-wise the SM64 are preety damn awesome! The unique soundstage, top notch clarity and seperation, tight, textured and controlled bass, really nice mids and crystal clear highs.
But the sound signature can be a bit exhausting at first (says me, coming from the TF10!). The highs can go pretty high (if necessary) and the overall really neutral sound signature was a bit of a shock to me to be honest...
But I think the more neutral the sound signature is, the better you can EQ it as you like. This small change in the equalizer made me love the SM64 even more!
Now they really have everything I want from an IEM :)


I can't wait for the first "proper" reviews :P

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post #51 of 261
1/7/13 at 8:29am
Interesting...almost sounds like its a more power-hungry unfiltered SM3. Unfiltered SM3 without the hissing would be very nice indeed.

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post #52 of 261
1/7/13 at 8:58am

No hissing at all. And you can run them without an amp, but...yeah they tend to be about 50% quieter then all the other IEMs I owned so far.



Oh, one simple question regarding my first portable amp:
How do I use this thing correctly? Do I crank up the volume of the amp to the max and then turn down the volume of the pmp to where I think it's loud enough?

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post #53 of 261
1/7/13 at 9:01am

 I think it is usually the opposite. Crank the player and use the amp to control, or use an LOD and again the amp to control the volume.

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post #54 of 261
1/7/13 at 9:27am
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post

Oh, that would be very interesting :D
I ordered the SM3 one day before Earsonics announced the SM64...I choose to jump in at the deep end and changed my order to the SM64, hoping for a sound, similar to the SM3.


The iBasso sure helped me to amp up the SM64 and now I can listen to them with proper volume :P I don't think it changed much SQ-wise.
I also started to use the eq of my Cowon (am I a bad person for using it?). I set the BBE to 5 and now the sound is way more lively!

I think SQ-wise the SM64 are preety damn awesome! The unique soundstage, top notch clarity and seperation, tight, textured and controlled bass, really nice mids and crystal clear highs.
But the sound signature can be a bit exhausting at first (says me, coming from the TF10!). The highs can go pretty high (if necessary) and the overall really neutral sound signature was a bit of a shock to me to be honest...
But I think the more neutral the sound signature is, the better you can EQ it as you like. This small change in the equalizer made me love the SM64 even more!
Now they really have everything I want from an IEM :)


I can't wait for the first "proper" reviews :P

 

So the SM64 don't really sound mid-forward? Are voices pretty emphasized in the mix? And how about cymbals compared to the TF10?

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post #55 of 261
1/7/13 at 9:48am
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 I think it is usually the opposite. Crank the player and use the amp to control, or use an LOD and again the amp to control the volume.


Oh it's the other way around? Okay, why not. Thanks! Seems a bit obvious to me now...
Should I use the low or high gain setting of the amp?


And I don't feel that the mids are more present then any of the other frequencies. Vocals are (of course) more present then with the TF10 but they are not overemphasized. Cymbals seem to go a lot higher then with the TF10 and they are also much clearer, if you ask me.


Edited by Tom Yum Goong - 1/7/13 at 10:12am
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post #56 of 261
1/7/13 at 11:06am
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post
Oh it's the other way around? Okay, why not. Thanks! Seems a bit obvious to me now...

Should I use the low or high gain setting of the amp?

 

Depends on the headphones (also amp).  Some will cause/have increased hiss on high gain with sensitive headphones.  I don't have the SM64 and have never used the D-ZERO (few have the former and you may be the only one with both at the moment) so you'll likely have to play around a bit.

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post #57 of 261
1/7/13 at 12:52pm

Well, I wasn't expecting that!
Using the amp as it's supposed to be changed the sound not just a bit! In a good way :)
Everything sounds kind of more polished. The highs lost a good bit of their harshness and the bass is cleaner too.
Now I can enjoy my SM64 without any EQ. Awesome!

Switching from high to low gain doesn't really changed anything though.

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post #58 of 261
1/8/13 at 12:34pm

I'm really sorry for turning this whole thread into a pretty big mess, with my unstructured and pretty wishy-washy impressions...I really hope someone more professional will make a review of this awesome IEMs soon and put all my thoughts into the right words...


Please ignore my post above.
The change in SQ is more then just minimal.
I will also send my amp back to where I bought it from, because its not that useful to me. I just have to turn the volume of my J3 20% more up then usual and the amp didn't really change something sq-wise. (maybe this is what the mysterious impendance corrector does :P)

My basic impressions remain the same:
Very nice, punchy, controlled and textured bass
Detailed and crisp mids with slightly recessed upper-mids
Precise and crystal clear highs that seem almost a bit too bright to my ears (you don't have to take this too serious. my last IEMs were some TF10s)
Incredible soundstage! (maybe similar to the one of the sm3) Pretty 3D like.
Great instrument seperation.
Overall balance is pretty neutral.
Isolation and fit are perfect for me with the stock bi-flanges.

Best regards
your spicy, fishy lemongrass soup
Tom Yum Goong

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post #59 of 261
1/8/13 at 1:08pm

Help me get this right rolleyes.gif. You are saying using a portable had no effect on the sound that why you are sending it back? or that it has an effect but you prefer the sound without it?

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post #60 of 261
1/8/13 at 1:16pm

The portable amp had no affect on the sound.
And I think its not worth the 100€ I paid for it, if the only thing it does, is saving me from having to turn the volume of my J3 20% up.

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